Best of luck FAA!

USO

Professional
Best of luck to FAA tomorrow! It won't be easy against Zverev but hopefully FAA will finally get his 1st title after 5 lost finals (against quality opponents though). Maybe winning a trophy is what he needs to gain confidence and go to the next level!



ResultW–L Date TournamentTierSurfaceOpponentScore
Loss0–1Feb 2019Rio Open, Brazil500 SeriesClayLaslo Đere3–6, 5–7
Loss0–2May 2019Lyon Open, France250 SeriesClayBenoît Paire4–6, 3–6
Loss0–3June 2019Stuttgart Open, Germany250 SeriesGrassMatteo Berrettini4–6, 6–7(11–13)
Loss0–4Feb 2020Rotterdam Open, Netherlands500 SeriesHard (i)Gaël Monfils2–6, 4–6
Loss0–5Feb 2020Open 13, France250 SeriesHard (i)Stefanos Tsitsipas3–6, 4–6
PendingOct 2020Bett1Hulks Indoors, Germany250 SeriesHard (i)Alexander ZverevTBD

Please don't become the Anna Kournikova of men's tennis. :unsure:
 

James P

Legend
I don't like his chances. But...I hope it happens for him finally. He needs to get off the loser schneid before he becomes Benneteau.
 
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USO

Professional
I dont really think the first 4 were tough opponents.
For a young upcoming player like FAA, these were definitely players with more experience and with successful careers at least when it comes to Monfils, Tsitsipas, Paire and Berrettini. The only loss that is questionable is Dere.
 

Lleytonstation

G.O.A.T.
For a young upcoming player like FAA, these were definitely players with more experience and with successful careers at least when it comes to Monfils, Tsitsipas, Paire and Berrettini. The only loss that is questionable is Dere.
I would think a young up and comer who we have been talking about since he was 13 and is supposed to be great eventually should beat a few of these guys.... or at the very least take ONE set...
 

Meles

Bionic Poster
I dont really think the first 4 were tough opponents.
As a youngish 18 year old FAA was way out over his skis in those finals. His team constructed the perfect schedule that got him to 11th in the ATP race heading into Wimbledon. A large part of his success was he was relatively unknown so kept winning and serving betterer and betterer. Should have been a 4th final in Miami, but fore the serve implosions at end of set. How on earth can a servebot not serve out against Isner?:-D

He's just playing OK right now in St. Pete, so we'll see if he's learned his lesson from Isner. FAA sees himself as some great closer which shows that he's been subject to a lot of brainwashing.:sick:
 

Wander

Professional
Who has the record for the most lost finals before getting their first title?
Also, who have the worst records in finals over their careers in general?

Anyone in the know?
 

Mark-Touch

Hall of Fame
Who has the record for the most lost finals before getting their first title?
Also, who have the worst records in finals over their careers in general?

Anyone in the know?
It took Lendl 5 times before he won his first slam final.
He also ended up on the short end of the stick at the end of his career in slam finals:
Won 8
Lost 11
 

Wander

Professional
It took Lendl 5 times before he won his first slam final.
He also ended up on the short end of the stick at the end of his career in slam finals:
Won 8
Lost 11
True enough, but slam finals are their own category. Andy Murray also lost his first 4 and is 3-8 overall, but all things considered, that record is acceptable.
 

BeatlesFan

Bionic Poster
Best of luck to FAA tomorrow! It won't be easy against Zverev but hopefully FAA will finally get his 1st title after 5 lost finals (against quality opponents though). /SPOILER]
Please list the supposed "quality" opponents, since the rest of the world is dying to know.

"Quality" opponents are the big three, Stanimal, Laver in 1969 and Sampras in 1996. NOBODY outside the big 3 today. I just Googled them and they're WTA level except for RBA.
 

Slowtwitcher

Hall of Fame
As a youngish 18 year old FAA was way out over his skis in those finals. His team constructed the perfect schedule that got him to 11th in the ATP race heading into Wimbledon. A large part of his success was he was relatively unknown so kept winning and serving betterer and betterer. Should have been a 4th final in Miami, but fore the serve implosions at end of set. How on earth can a servebot not serve out against Isner?:-D

He's just playing OK right now in St. Pete, so we'll see if he's learned his lesson from Isner. FAA sees himself as some great closer which shows that he's been subject to a lot of brainwashing.:sick:
STRONG opinion for someone that doesn't even know what tournament we're talking about :p
 
Best of luck to FAA tomorrow! It won't be easy against Zverev but hopefully FAA will finally get his 1st title after 5 lost finals (against quality opponents though). Maybe winning a trophy is what he needs to gain confidence and go to the next level!



ResultW–L DateTournamentTierSurfaceOpponentScore
Loss0–1Feb 2019Rio Open, Brazil500 SeriesClayLaslo Đere3–6, 5–7
Loss0–2May 2019Lyon Open, France250 SeriesClayBenoît Paire4–6, 3–6
Loss0–3June 2019Stuttgart Open, Germany250 SeriesGrassMatteo Berrettini4–6, 6–7(11–13)
Loss0–4Feb 2020Rotterdam Open, Netherlands500 SeriesHard (i)Gaël Monfils2–6, 4–6
Loss0–5Feb 2020Open 13, France250 SeriesHard (i)Stefanos Tsitsipas3–6, 4–6
PendingOct 2020Bett1Hulks Indoors, Germany250 SeriesHard (i)Alexander ZverevTBD

Please don't become the Anna Kournikova of men's tennis. :unsure:
I hope he wins. But for some reason, FAA doesn't appeal to me. I'll probably root for Sinner, Musetti when Rafa retires
 

McLovin

Legend
Please list the supposed "quality" opponents, since the rest of the world is dying to know.

"Quality" opponents are the big three, Stanimal, Laver in 1969 and Sampras in 1996. NOBODY outside the big 3 today. I just Googled them and they're WTA level .
Your definition of ‘quality’ is way different from mine. To equate it to vehicles, Honda, Toyota, VW. That’s ‘quality’. What you’ve listed are Porsches, Ferraris, and Lamborghinis.
 

Meles

Bionic Poster
Please list the supposed "quality" opponents, since the rest of the world is dying to know.

"Quality" opponents are the big three, Stanimal, Laver in 1969 and Sampras in 1996. NOBODY outside the big 3 today. I just Googled them and they're WTA level except for RBA.
Should have made that Miami final, but yep another poor quality opponent.;)
 

michiru

Rookie
Please list the supposed "quality" opponents, since the rest of the world is dying to know.

"Quality" opponents are the big three, Stanimal, Laver in 1969 and Sampras in 1996. NOBODY outside the big 3 today. I just Googled them and they're WTA level except for RBA.
hey WTA has way better opponents than them
 

McLovin

Legend
Even with that awful second serve, he is better than FAA.
Old tennis adage: You’re only as good as your 2nd serve.

...and that 2nd serve...

But seriously, yes, right now Zverev is better than FAA. But in 3-5 years, it may be a different story. He does have 3 years on him.
 

Zebrev

Hall of Fame
People mocked Zverev for year for never having won a tournament until he finally won at 19 years of age.

The young guys coming up now can do no wrong, by comparison. Shapovalov is hopeless, yet still gets hyped as the next best thing.
 

Tennease

Legend
For a young upcoming player like FAA, these were definitely players with more experience and with successful careers at least when it comes to Monfils, Tsitsipas, Paire and Berrettini. The only loss that is questionable is Dere.
Djere is a great clay court player. FAA not so good on clay. Djere overpowered Musetti in Sardinia.
 

Backspin1183

G.O.A.T.
Old tennis adage: You’re only as good as your 2nd serve.

...and that 2nd serve...

But seriously, yes, right now Zverev is better than FAA. But in 3-5 years, it may be a different story. He does have 3 years on him.
You might be right. I personally don't see a Slam champion in him just yet. Zverev on the other hand IMO will win a few Slams.
 

USO

Professional
FAA won his 1st title last week in doubles at Bercy, saving 5 championship points! Hopefully it will encourage him and translate into singles titles soon! Here are some highlights of the final!


This is not an easy achievement, Djokovic has entered 32 doubles Masters 1000 tournaments without one single title. :cool:
 
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ResultW–L DateTournamentTierSurfaceOpponentScore
Loss0–1Feb 2019Rio Open, Brazil500 SeriesClayLaslo Đere3–6, 5–7
Loss0–2May 2019Lyon Open, France250 SeriesClayBenoît Paire4–6, 3–6
Loss0–3June 2019Stuttgart Open, Germany250 SeriesGrassMatteo Berrettini4–6, 6–7(11–13)
Loss0–4Feb 2020Rotterdam Open, Netherlands500 SeriesHard (i)Gaël Monfils2–6, 4–6
Loss0–5Feb 2020Open 13, France250 SeriesHard (i)Stefanos Tsitsipas3–6, 4–6
Loss0-6Oct 2020Bett1Hulks Indoors, Germany250 SeriesHard (i)Alexander Zverev

Notice how his finale opponents get tougher and tougher?

It doesn't exactly help.

Next up: Federer? Nadal?
 
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