Best outside slams?

Best outside slams?


  • Total voters
    40
#1
Connors:

1 YEC
2 WCT Finals
17 Masters
81 minor titles

Djokovic:

5 YEC
32 Masters
whole set of 9
21 minor titles

Federer:

6 YEC
27 Masters
46 minor titles

Lendl:

5 YEC
2 WCT Finals
22 Masters
whole set of 9
57 minor titles

McEnroe:

3 YEC
5 WCT Finals
19 Masters
46 minor titles

Nadal:

1 olympic gold
33 masters
29 minor titles

Sampras

5 YEC
2 GS Cup
11 Masters
32 minor titles
 
#3
So many ways to look at this, and both Connors and Lendl's should probably be valued higher, but it still comes down to The Big 3 for me. There are different ways to view this - outside of the "slams".

Overall winning percentage, though close: 1. Rafa 2. Novak 3. Roger
Overall titles (at any level): 1. Roger 2. Rafa 3. Novak
Big Titles (outside of "slams") 1. Novak 2. Rafa 3. Roger
Longevity at the top: 1. Roger 2. Rafa 3. Novak (but obviously, Fed is older)
(Debatable) Overall accomplishments per time on tour: 1. Novak 2. Rafa 3. Roger
 
#10
Probably Lendl and Nadal.

Lendl won over 50 titles with at least a bo5 final format, and all of his yec were of the REAL and prestigious bo5 final variety, as were his 2 wct finals.

Rafa has one of the most rounded and impressive resume's with 33 ms1000's, 4 Dc's, singles and doubles gold, and 20 atp 500's.
 
#16
Can't say I know enough about the specifics of the non-slam tournaments Lendl won to make a fair comparison. I think Djokovic takes it overall, however the change to BO3 finals and 1st round byes in masters does slightly complicate things
 
#19
I've never seen a player take the Masters events more seriously than Novak Djokovic. He really raised the bar this generation for all out 11 month effort.

But I'm sure it helps mentally & physically that none of them are Bo5 anymore, of course.
 
#22
Anyone know how much BO5 masters Rafa has vs Nole?
5 (MC, Rome 05/06, Madrid 05) vs 1 (Miami 07). Three of Nadal's five finals went to a deciding 5th set TB and he took them all - now that's an actual feat of great clutchness that's rarely mentioned, unlike say the overrated GS SF stat.
The epic final wins are probably worth 1 extra title on aggregate.
 
#32
Probably Lendl and Nadal.

Lendl won over 50 titles with at least a bo5 final format, and all of his yec were of the REAL and prestigious bo5 final variety, as were his 2 wct finals.

Rafa has one of the most rounded and impressive resume's with 33 ms1000's, 4 Dc's, singles and doubles gold, and 20 atp 500's.
Not really Olympic gold is not that big and he has zero wtfs
 
#35
Lendl and Connors actually won something like 150 events in total. Definitely going with Lendl here.
The only problem with Connors is that he was playing everywhere, anytime, all the time ... tournaments with 3 rounds, no rounds, WTA tournametns, alien tournaments, one before his breakfast, one after his lunch and another one before he went to bed :p;).
 
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#36
The only problem with Connors is that he was playing everywhere, anytime, all the time ... tournaments with 3 rounds, no rounds, WTA tournametns, alien tournaments, one before his breakfast, one after his lunck and another one before he went to bed :p;).
Indeed, but all the players did it in those days. Some of those events don't really deserve recognition but some of them do IMO.
 
#39
Connors:

1 YEC
2 WCT Finals
17 Masters
81 minor titles

Djokovic:

5 YEC
32 Masters
whole set of 9
21 minor titles

Federer:

6 YEC
27 Masters
46 minor titles

Lendl:

5 YEC
2 WCT Finals
22 Masters
whole set of 9
57 minor titles

McEnroe:

3 YEC
5 WCT Finals
19 Masters
46 minor titles

Nadal:

1 olympic gold
33 masters
29 minor titles

Sampras

5 YEC
2 GS Cup
11 Masters
32 minor titles
Connors, McEnroe and Lendl didn't win Masters 1000.
Masters 1000 of Wiki are fake.
 
#46
There are two type of tournaments. Tournaments where, theoreticly, all the best players enters and tournaments where not all of the best players enters. Second group you call minor and all others are first group. Do not pay attention to minor and everything will be simple and clear.

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#48
Connors:

1 YEC
2 WCT Finals
17 Masters
81 minor titles

Djokovic:

5 YEC
32 Masters
whole set of 9
21 minor titles

Federer:

6 YEC
27 Masters
46 minor titles

Lendl:

5 YEC
2 WCT Finals
22 Masters
whole set of 9
57 minor titles

McEnroe:

3 YEC
5 WCT Finals
19 Masters
46 minor titles

Nadal:

1 olympic gold
33 masters
29 minor titles

Sampras

5 YEC
2 GS Cup
11 Masters
32 minor titles
This is what I call a poll that everybody knows the answer before it starts.
Like the ones the political parties pay for.
 
#49
Lendl and Djokovic are top two, I think and it's pretty close. I'll give it to Lendl right now.
The structure of the tour in the 80's was different though with the WCT circuit etc.
Yes and some of Lendl's achievements aren't listed in his official achievements but still were solid achievements. Like being a 5 time winner of the European Community championship (Antwerp), when I think it was the biggest pay day in tennis
 
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