Best period for each of the big 3?

SABRvolley

Rookie
Not the best entire season per se, but just the stretches of weeks/months in which they were at their absolute peak domination:

1. Federer: Halle 2006 - Dubai 2007:

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60 - 1 (98.3% win rate)
- 3 slam titles (WIM 06, USO 06 & AO 07)
- 1 WTF
- 2 Masters titles (Canada 06 & Madrid 06)
- 10 titles

2. Nadal: Monte Carlo 2008 - Madrid 2009:

- 100 - 8 (92.59%)
- 3 slam titles (RG & WIM 08, AO09)
- 1 Olympic Gold
- 6 Masters titles (MC 08, Hamburg 08, Canada 08, IW 09, MC 09, Rome 09)
- 13 titles

3. Djokovic: Australian Open 2011 - US Open 2011:

- 64 - 2 (96.97%)
- 3 slam titles (AO, WIM & USO 2011)
- 5 Masters titles (IW, Miami, Madrid, Rome & Canada 2011)
- 10 titles
 
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MichaelNadal

Bionic Poster
Not the best entire season per se, but just the stretches of weeks/months in which they were at their absolute peak domination:

1. Federer: Halle 2006 - Dubai 2007:
-
60 - 1 (98.3% win rate)
- 2 slam titles (USO 06 & AO 07)
- 1 WTF
- 2 Masters titles (Canada 06 & Madrid 06)
- 10 titles

2. Nadal: Monte Carlo 2008 - Madrid 2009:

- 100 - 8 (92.59%)
- 3 slam titles (RG & WIM 08, AO09)
- 1 Olympic Gold
- 6 Masters titles (MC 08, Hamburg 08, Canada 08, IW 09, MC 09, Rome 09)
- 13 titles

3. Djokovic: Australian Open 2011 - US Open 2011:

- 64 - 2 (96.97%)
- 3 slam titles (AO, WIM & USO 2011)
- 5 Masters titles (IW, Miami, Madrid, Rome & Canada 2011)
- 10 titles
If you are starting at Halle then Federer won 2006 Wimbledon........
 

RS

Bionic Poster
What is wrong with his forehand in 2015

This is very cliched answer

Djokovic forehand in 2015 especially on grass was probably superior to any other years.

2015 to 2016 is best period.
Most people think 2011 was better at almost everything outside the serve and the field was stronger by a least a few > signs. Not saying that's true but it's the consensus here.
 

nolefam_2024

Bionic Poster
Most people think 2011 was better at almost everything outside the serve and the field was stronger by a least a few > signs. Not saying that's true but it's the consensus here.
That is just consensus because Nadal was blasted in 2011

2015 Djokovic forehand to me looks the best
 
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RS

Bionic Poster
That is just consensus because Nadal was blasted in 2011

2015 Djokovic forehand to me looks the best
I think 2011 had more weight on the shot and more a surprise factor like I think 2011 Djokovic would have given 2015 Wawrinka a better go there were as in 2015 Djokovic was completely over powered. 2015 probably was more precise though and Djokovic's game in 2015 was more based on trying to take as little risk as possible so it's a slightly different type of FH. That's my 2 cents on it.
 

KingCarlitos

Hall of Fame
What is wrong with his forehand in 2015

This is very cliched answer

Djokovic forehand in 2015 especially on grass was probably superior to any other years.

2015 to 2016 is best period.
I know his game was more polished but It was more entertaining to watch 2011 Djokovic as he struck winners more often.
 

GoatNo1

Hall of Fame
No way for me definitely Novaks 2015 to halfway through 2016 is his best stretch and it’s probably anyone’s best stretch.
not probable but for sure the best and the greatest year in the tennis history, W15-RG16. if you are asking for highest peak then a 52 weeks, with all tournaments, surfaces and conditions, is the best period of time to go for. noles W15-RG16: 4 slams, WTF, 5 masters + 3 finals, 2 MMs, 31 top10 wins, 16950 ATP points!

EDIT
greatest year and the half is 2015-RG16, greatest 20 months is paris14-RG16 and greatest 2 years is W14-RG16!
 

SamprasisGOAT

Hall of Fame
not probable but for sure the best and the greatest year in the tennis history, W15-RG16. if you are asking for highest peak then a 52 weeks, with all tournaments, surfaces and conditions, is the best period of time to go for. noles W15-RG16: 4 slams, WTF, 5 masters + 3 finals, 2 MMs, 31 top10 wins, 16950 ATP points!

EDIT
greatest year and the half is 2015-RG16, greatest 20 months is paris14-RG16 and greatest 2 years is W14-RG16!
My point exactly great post
 

nolefam_2024

Bionic Poster

This has everything listed for charted out matches but I am not able to go back to all 567 matches charted for Djokovic.
What I am looking for is forehand winner % and rally aggregates.

@KingCarlitos if I find it, will create a thread out of it. But there is so much good stuff here. Eg. Djokovic only averages 13% FH winners in last year which is near bottom, while Bweh is almost 20%. And many such goodies.
 

nolefam_2024

Bionic Poster

This has everything listed for charted out matches but I am not able to go back to all 567 matches charted for Djokovic.
What I am looking for is forehand winner % and rally aggregates.

@KingCarlitos if I find it, will create a thread out of it. But there is so much good stuff here. Eg. Djokovic only averages 13% FH winners in last year which is near bottom, while Bweh is almost 20%. And many such goodies.
Norrie Alcaraz Griekspoor

That's all
 

SonnyT

Legend
I'm kind of puzzled. I keep hearing it takes a champ to bring out the best of another champ. Take, for example, the Chiefs-Eagles or the Chiefs-49ers.

How could Federer be at his best in '06-07, when everybody was way below his level?
 

nolefam_2024

Bionic Poster
I'm kind of puzzled. I keep hearing it takes a champ to bring out the best of another champ. Take, for example, the Chiefs-Eagles or the Chiefs-49ers.

How could Federer be at his best in '06-07, when everybody was way below his level?
True

By mid of 2007, rafa and nole both were fighting. Until then only rafa on clay
 
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Deleted member 806402

Guest
If by brutal you mean the bottomless extent of the boredom, I couldn't agree more :D
djokovic fans rushing to reply to this like:
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Deleted member 806402

Guest
If by boredom you mean your endless threads how Nadal is epic when clearly he is not, I couldn't agree more.
rafa was actually epic though. I mean.. you can say a lot of things about him but this is straight up lies
 

itrium84

Hall of Fame
Not the best entire season per se, but just the stretches of weeks/months in which they were at their absolute peak domination:

1. Federer: Halle 2006 - Dubai 2007:

-
60 - 1 (98.3% win rate)
- 3 slam titles (WIM 06, USO 06 & AO 07)
- 1 WTF
- 2 Masters titles (Canada 06 & Madrid 06)
- 10 titles

2. Nadal: Monte Carlo 2008 - Madrid 2009:

- 100 - 8 (92.59%)
- 3 slam titles (RG & WIM 08, AO09)
- 1 Olympic Gold
- 6 Masters titles (MC 08, Hamburg 08, Canada 08, IW 09, MC 09, Rome 09)
- 13 titles

3. Djokovic: Australian Open 2011 - US Open 2011:

- 64 - 2 (96.97%)
- 3 slam titles (AO, WIM & USO 2011)
- 5 Masters titles (IW, Miami, Madrid, Rome & Canada 2011)
- 10 titles
3. Novak
His W2015-RG2016 campaign is most dominant stretch in tennis history.
 

nolefam_2024

Bionic Poster
Djokovic: Paris2024 - RG2016 ws as a total domination:
- He Reached the final of 21 big tournaments (6 GS, 2 ATP Finals, 13 Maters1000) out of 22 consecutive participations.
- He reached 16,950 ranking poins (the most ATP points ever accumulated by any player)

Djokovic-streak-Big-titles.png
Yes that was god's run

Federer 2006 was a goat run but this was god's run
 

Backspin1183

Talk Tennis Guru
Maybe in terms of results, but his level of play was higher during that 2011 stretch imo.
Of course! 2015 was such a massive success for Djokovic because it coincided with Nadal's (his main rival) worst season since 2004. But he still had to beat other players, so can't take away from him.
 

nolefam_2024

Bionic Poster
Of course! 2015 was such a massive success for Djokovic because it coincided with Nadal's (his main rival) worst season since 2004.
Nadal was pasted in 2011 so it doesn't matter if he was in 2015 or not. What nole had long suffered at his best was Roger Federer's hands.

Yes on clay rafa was great
 

Backspin1183

Talk Tennis Guru
Nadal was pasted in 2011 so it doesn't matter if he was in 2015 or not. What nole had long suffered at his best was Roger Federer's hands.

Yes on clay rafa was great
So was Djokovic in 2013. He had 1 Slam seasons after 2011 for 3 straight years, and needed Nadal to have his worst season since 2004, to win 3 Slams in 2015. He's super consistent which is why he is where he is today, but his level was never higher than Federer or Nadal except at the AO.
 

nolefam_2024

Bionic Poster
So was Djokovic in 2013. He had 1 Slam seasons after 2011 for 3 straight years, and needed Nadal to have his worst season since 2004, to win 3 Slams in 2015. He's super consistent which is why he is where he is today, but his level was never higher than Federer or Nadal except at the AO.
Yes and Nadal was good for that 1 year

So our guy invited Boris. I still remember that day I was smiling ear to ear. Nole invited Boris just to eliminate your guy. And he did. Sadly rafa was nowhere near his best but what changes our guy made helped him for rest of his career. While for rafa it took till 2017 to make same changes


2014 to 2016 was his best period hands down.
 

Neptune

Hall of Fame
Djokovic: Paris2024 - RG2016 ws as a total domination:
- He Reached the final of 21 big tournaments (6 GS, 2 ATP Finals, 13 Maters1000) out of 22 consecutive participations.
- He reached 16,950 ranking poins (the most ATP points ever accumulated by any player)

Djokovic-streak-Big-titles.png

Must add: average opponent rank 18, and went through 30 (25-5) top 5s, 60 (54-6) top 10s.
 

Neptune

Hall of Fame
So was Djokovic in 2013. He had 1 Slam seasons after 2011 for 3 straight years, and needed Nadal to have his worst season since 2004, to win 3 Slams in 2015. He's super consistent which is why he is where he is today, but his level was never higher than Federer or Nadal except at the AO.

Look, during 3 years 2012-14:
Nole needed to play 43 top5 vs Rafa's 27,
Nole needed to play 88 top10 vs Rafa's 52,
What a shame, yeah, Nole only 3 slams vs Rafa's 4.
 

Matrix968

Semi-Pro
Djokovic: Paris2024 - RG2016 ws as a total domination:
- He Reached the final of 21 big tournaments (6 GS, 2 ATP Finals, 13 Maters1000) out of 22 consecutive participations.
- He reached 16,950 ranking poins (the most ATP points ever accumulated by any player)

Djokovic-streak-Big-titles.png
This stretch is absolutely insane, I don't believe anyone will ever come close to these results...
Such dominance on the big tournaments, unbelievable :oops:
 
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GoatNo1

Hall of Fame
Of course! 2015 was such a massive success for Djokovic because it coincided with Nadal's (his main rival) worst season since 2004. But he still had to beat other players, so can't take away from him.
when nole reaches his peak, rafa is not someone to stop him, unlike to fed. for example, fed had a 4-6 record with rafa in his best season, 2006. nole, on the other hand, has had 2 7-0 streaks vs rafa and both were when he was playing at his absolute peak level. and if we assume that rafa from 2015-16 was not at his peak, rafa from 2011-12AO undoubtedly was. 2011 would be his best season by far if he didn't lose 6 big finals to nole.



 

GoatNo1

Hall of Fame
So was Djokovic in 2013. He had 1 Slam seasons after 2011 for 3 straight years, and needed Nadal to have his worst season since 2004, to win 3 Slams in 2015. He's super consistent which is why he is where he is today, but his level was never higher than Federer or Nadal except at the AO.
nole was ITF champ in 2013 and he had only 770 points less than rafa in the end of the season so he was not to far behind rafa even in rafas statistically 2nd best season which was not even in noles 10 best seasons.

factum is that nole had more than 1500 points more than no2 in all 8 seasons he was no1. and 840 points as most difference to no1 in 2013, 2016 and 2019 when he was no2. in 2022 he was YE#5 but should be no2 with just 180 points difference to raz if W points was calculate. despite missing AO, USO and 4 masters and with some additional MM SF he should be YE#1.
 

SonnyT

Legend
I'm kind of puzzled. I keep hearing it takes a champ to bring out the best of another champ. Take, for example, the Chiefs-Eagles or the Chiefs-49ers.

How could Federer be at his best in '06-07, when everybody was way below his level?
Saying Federer's best years were '06-07 is like saying Djokovic's best years were '21-22!

In Federer's best years, Nadal & Djokovic were in and emerging from their teenage years.
 
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