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Who is the best player to have never done one of the following things? Note: not simulateneously. Only 1 category for 1 player

1. Won a slam
2. Reached a slam final
3. Reached a slam semi
4. Reached a slam quarter
5. Won a masters
6. Won the WTF
7. Qualified for the WTF
8. Won multiple masters
9. Won multiple majors
10. Been ranked world no.1
11. Been ranked world no.2
12 Been ranked in the top 10.

Here are mine:

1.Nalby
2. Davy
3. Robredo
4. Zverev
5. Nishi
6. Nadal
7. Haas
8. Berdych
9. Roddick
10. Vilas
11. Stan
12. Kyrgios

What are your options?
 
1. Rios
2. Davy
3. Blake
4. Anyone but Zverev (have I mentioned before that I really dislike Zverev?)
5. Nishikori
6. Nadal
7. Haas
8. Soderling
9. Roddick :(
10. Vilas
11. Stan
12. Kyrgios
 
These are the only answers for which I don’t have much doubt:
1.Nalbandian
6.Nadal
10.Vilas

And if you let me add two categories:
Best player who never won:
- Calendar Singles Grand Slam
- Olympic Singles Gold
There is no other than Federer for both
 
Tough because you can either go on results or ability.

1. Nalbandian (ability)
2. Henman (results, Davydenko was more rounded but didn't make as many semis)
3. Robredo but Kohlschreiber was lurking (results)
9. Had to double check, but yeah Roddick (results)
 
Won a slam: Nalbandian
Reached a slam final: Davydenko
Reached a slam semi: Kyrgios
Reached a slam quarter: Zverev
Won a masters: Blake
Won the WTF: Del Potro (not a better player than Nadal, but a better indoor hard player)
Won multiple masters: Soderling
Won multiple majors: Roddick
Been ranked world no.2: Wawrinka
 
mike danny said:
Who is the best player to have never done one of the following things? Note: not simulateneously. Only 1 category for 1 player

1. Won a slam
2. Reached a slam final
3. Reached a slam semi
4. Reached a slam quarter
5. Won a masters
6. Won the WTF
7. Qualified for the WTF
8. Won multiple masters
9. Won multiple majors
10. Been ranked world no.1
11. Been ranked world no.2
12 Been ranked in the top 10.

Here are mine:

1.Nalby
2. Davy
3. Robredo
4. Zverev
5. Nishi
6. Nadal
7. Haas
8. Berdych
9. Roddick
10. Vilas
11. Stan
12. Kyrgios

What are your options?
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1. Won a slam: mecir, martin, philippoussis, pioline, soderling, tsonga, rios... hard to choose!
2. Reached a slam final: between henman, davydenko and grosjean
3. Reached a slam semi: blake
4. Reached a slam quarter: i would have liked srichaphan to reach at least a QF... :(
5. Won a masters: i'm afraid i have to answer kafelnikov :confused:
6. Won the WTF: Wilander
7. Qualified for the WTF: no mention of philippoussis or pioline ? (although my personal favorite would be marcos !)
8. Won muliple masters: i keep the stanimal for #11 so delpo!
9. Won multiple slams: I'm tempted to answer goran but it's tough one! (also muster, stich, chang, roddick, cash)
10. Been ranked world no.1: vilas
11. Been ranked world no.2: wawrinka
12. Been ranked world in the top10: zivojinovic (2 slam SF) @Moose Malloy

PS: how about the "opposite thread" ? :p (worst player who......)
 
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duaneeo said:
Won a slam: Nalbandian
Reached a slam final: Davydenko
Reached a slam semi: Kyrgios
Reached a slam quarter: Zverev
Won a masters: Blake
Won the WTF: Del Potro (not a better player than Nadal, but a better indoor hard player)
Won multiple masters: Soderling
Won multiple majors: Roddick
Been ranked world no.2: Wawrinka
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Thanks for actually quoting the categories first. Can't follow the others.
 
vive le beau jeu ! said:
2. between henman and davydenko
3. blake
4. i would have liked srichaphan to reach at least a QF... :(
7. no mention of philippoussis or pioline ? (although my personal favorite would be marcos !)
11. wawrinka

PS: how about the "opposite thread" ? :p
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Paradorn is a good pick in a tough category. I also considered Philippoussis for 7 but gave up on the question. He's a good pick considering Haas made a final in the Grand Slam Cup which is what the WTF became.
 
mike danny said:
Who is the best player to have never done one of the following things? Note: not simulateneously. Only 1 category for 1 player

1. Won a slam
2. Reached a slam final
3. Reached a slam semi
4. Reached a slam quarter
5. Won a masters
6. Won the WTF
7. Qualified for the WTF
8. Won multiple masters
9. Won multiple majors
10. Been ranked world no.1
11. Been ranked world no.2
12 Been ranked in the top 10.

Here are mine:

1.Nalby
2. Davy
3. Robredo
4. Zverev
5. Nishi
6. Nadal
7. Haas
8. Berdych
9. Roddick
10. Vilas
11. Stan
12. Kyrgios

What are your options?
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My number 1 (never won a slam) is miloslav Mecir. I agree regarding Nadal for item 6.
 
For multiple Masters, yes. Maybe even for having never won a Slam. He leads the h2h against Nalbandian, won more titles...and yet against the big 4 in a Slam final, I'd still be tempted to pick DN.
 
mike danny said:
Who is the best player to have never done one of the following things? Note: not simulateneously. Only 1 category for 1 player

1. Won a slam
2. Reached a slam final
3. Reached a slam semi
4. Reached a slam quarter
5. Won a masters
6. Won the WTF
7. Qualified for the WTF
8. Won multiple masters
9. Won multiple majors
10. Been ranked world no.1
11. Been ranked world no.2
12 Been ranked in the top 10.
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Among Open Era men;

1. Miloslav Mecir
2. Nikolay Davydenko
3. James Blake
4. Paradorn Srichaphan
5. Yevgeny Kafelnikov
6. Rafael Nadal
7. Tommy Haas
8. Juan Martin Del Potro
9. Andy Roddick
10. Guillermo Vilas (officially)
11. Stan Wawrinka
12. Younes El Aynaoui
 
1. Won a slam; Miloslav Mecir
2. Reached a slam final; Tommy Haas
3. Reached a slam semi; James Blake
4. Reached a slam quarter; Zedbot (that will change this French Open!)
5. Won a masters; Yevgeny Kafelnikov
6. Won the WTF; Rafael Nadal
7. Qualified for the WTF; Mark Phillippousis
8. Won multiple masters; Del Po
9. Won multiple majors; Andy Roddick
10. Been ranked world no.1; Guillermo Vilas
11. Been ranked world no.2; Stan Wawrinka
12 Been ranked in the top 10; Nick Kyrgios
 
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1. Mecir easily

2. Davydenko I think

3-4. don't know everyone in Open era history to make sure all candidates are considered

5. Kafelnikov easily, 2 majors but 0-5 in masters finals IIRC

6. Nadal obviously

7. dunno

8. JMDP as of now (since I can't put Wawrinka twice)

9. Roddick by overall career, Roche and Cash for peak level

10. Vilas (officially), otherwise Wawr

11. Wawrinka easily

12. El Aynaoui seems like a good choice. AO QF x2, USO QF x2, RG 4R x2, epicdom in 2003 AO/USO with epic wins over Hewitt, Novak and Moya and an all-time epic loss to Roddick; made 16 tour level finals (just checked, didn't know that - that's quite a lot), winning 5.
 
mike danny said:
Who is the best player to have never done one of the following things? Note: not simulateneously. Only 1 category for 1 player

1. Won a slam
2. Reached a slam final
3. Reached a slam semi
4. Reached a slam quarter
5. Won a masters
6. Won the WTF
7. Qualified for the WTF
8. Won multiple masters
9. Won multiple majors
10. Been ranked world no.1
11. Been ranked world no.2
12 Been ranked in the top 10.

Here are mine:

1.Nalby
2. Davy
3. Robredo
4. Zverev
5. Nishi
6. Nadal
7. Haas
8. Berdych
9. Roddick
10. Vilas
11. Stan
12. Kyrgios

What are your options?
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I think some of your categories are self explenatory in my view, like the categories (2), 3,4,7 and 12. If those players were any good and memorable they would have been more successful than that. I mean there have been tons of good players who never made it to a Slam Final, so what does that say about those players who never even reached the semis and QF or didn't even qualify for a WTF? Just saying.

Mine would be

1. Leconte
2. Henman
7. there are probably too many
6. Courier
9. Stich/Chang/Krajicek
10. Stich
11. Wawrinka
 
Lots of regency bias in this thread, what a surprise.

1)Mecir or Philippoissous
2) going for an unusual pick here - Chesnokov. Partly because he was so close to a final at 89 RG and would have had a very good shot at beating Edberg.
3) Arazi was the most talented player I've seen who didn't reach a SF. I wonder how he would have fared had he played guga in 97 RF final. Also, amritraj was considered a future slam champ earlier in his career, but he never made a SF, He reached 2 QF's before the age of 20. Ashe wrote in a book in 73 that he thought he would have a better career than Connors or Borg(sort of shows how straight S&V was so highly regarded among the tennis world back then and how unusual those 2 were relative to other players)
4) Kent Carlsson was the highest ranked player to not make a QF pre Zverev. Since his career was cut short by injury, might be unfair to list him, but I still can't believe he never made a QF.
5) Kafelnikov
12)Washington, Krishnan, Escude
 
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Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil said:
Unlike majority here :rolleyes: I will be objective and nominate Roddick for the biggest one Slam wonder instead for category 9.

:p
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Yeah a man who made 5 slam finals and lost 4 times against the GOAT is a “one slam wonder” :rolleyes:

Roddick should have at least 5 slams but Fedr was born and ruined everything for him.
At least he knows how he feels, right? @Red Rick
 
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paranoidandroid said:
Yeah a man who made 5 slam finals and lost 4 times against the GOAT is a “one slam wonder” :rolleyes:

Roddick should have at least 5 slams but Fedr was born and ruined everything for him.
At least he knows how he feels, right @Red Rick?
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Exactly. No need for quotation marks.

Praise Lord Fedr for saving us all!
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paranoidandroid said:
Yeah a man who made 5 slam finals and lost 4 times against the GOAT is a “one slam wonder” :rolleyes:

Roddick should have at least 5 slams but Fedr was born and ruined everything for him.
At least he knows how he feels, right? @Red Rick
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And by the way, if you said that same thing for Murray, the old hypothetical experts would have flooded you by now. But because of their phony Roddick sympathy they will approve this post. :rolleyes:

:D
 
1. David Ferrer
2. Mario Ančić
3. Kent Carlsson
4. Alexander Zverev
5. Gastón Gaudio
6. Rafael Nadal
7. Nick Kyrgios
8. Stan Wawrinka
9. Andy Roddick
10. Michael Chang
11. Stan Wawrinka
12. Nick Kyrgios
 
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