Best Smooth Poly as Cross for Natural Gut (Wilson/Klip Legend) in a 16x19 Racquet ?
- Thread starter yangster007
- Start date
yangster007
Professional
It's expensive for its playability.
Cerps
Professional
It's quite cheap (not pro's pro cheap but far from any Luxilon), durability is good, and tension maintenance is far superior to ALU power with the feel rather close to it?
yangster007
Professional
Cerps
Professional
$15 ? I rather buy LUxilon 4G/Yonex PTP
oh that was actually quite expensive... I can get for much less here in sweden.. I can get a reel under 90
Cerps
Professional
$15 ? I rather buy LUxilon 4G/Yonex PTP
oh that was actually quite expensive... I can get for much less here in sweden.. I can get a reel under 90 $
yangster007
Professional
Wow, how come it's so expensive here in US ?
yangster007
Professional
Also probably because nothing Signum Pro produces is popular here except Poly Plasma I think.
LaZeR
Professional
What do you guys mean by "just throw in the cross string again until the gut breaks" and "normally restring the cross"?
Do you mean you leave the Mains intact and ONLY cut out and re-string the Crosses?! How do you do that if the Crosses are tied off with the Mains?
Last edited:
slice bh compliment
G.O.A.T.
Gut/poly guy here, and I have done this. Probably ought to mention it in the confessions thread. My cross broke on the second day. This was from a big serve i caught aggressively off center, and the 18g poly cross broke.
You mount the frame so this odd process does not misshape the hoop. Cut and remove the crosses. Use a lubricated awl to undo the knots, and carefully pull them out while not harming the gut mains. Then string the crosses carefully.
This worked, but was not worth the effort, imho. The gut had a few hours of use and it was already notched up....and had probably lost a little tension. I carefully installed the new crosses, and it looked fine...and felt fine...but it just was not the same in terms of control. So i saved a few bucks, got another week or two out of the strings before the gut broke...then was really happy with a fresh, full restringing.
You mount the frame so this odd process does not misshape the hoop. Cut and remove the crosses. Use a lubricated awl to undo the knots, and carefully pull them out while not harming the gut mains. Then string the crosses carefully.
This worked, but was not worth the effort, imho. The gut had a few hours of use and it was already notched up....and had probably lost a little tension. I carefully installed the new crosses, and it looked fine...and felt fine...but it just was not the same in terms of control. So i saved a few bucks, got another week or two out of the strings before the gut broke...then was really happy with a fresh, full restringing.
Last edited:
LaZeR
Professional
What tension did you string the crosses?!
OK will try if the situation presents itself but on the phone Tennis Warehouse said to NEVER do this...
Do you know WHY it's not the same if it's only a few hours of using the Gut Mains? Even if the mains are slightly notched it's intuitive to think that fresh crosses would bring the string bed back to almost the same as the original crosses, or maybe even better. Are you referring to performance or did the racquet feel like a complete whack job?
Thanks!!
Last edited:
slice bh compliment
G.O.A.T.
I had 57 on the mains and 52 on the crosses.
Obviously one is NOT supposed to do this. But when you try it, you do your best, you trust your machine's 6pt mounting system, and you learn.
I put the second set of crosses in at 50, figuring it would be proportional, given the tension loss in the used mains. Too low and it would feel mushy and not slip. Too high and i mess up the frame.
52 or 50 seemed ok for the crosses. I think i did 51? The mains were probably ok, as gut holds tension very well. The fact that the gut had notches was not ideal. The premature break, then an hour later, the mounted removal of the crosses canNOT have been as perfect as a fully fresh stringing.
Anyway, it was usable. i am sensitive, so i felt something was awry. But this could have been in my head because of the dubious, frugal thing i did.
I am all for being frugal, but I do not see myself doing this again.
Back on topic!
Babolat rpm 18 and tecnifibre red code wax 18 are now my favorite crosses.
Obviously one is NOT supposed to do this. But when you try it, you do your best, you trust your machine's 6pt mounting system, and you learn.
I put the second set of crosses in at 50, figuring it would be proportional, given the tension loss in the used mains. Too low and it would feel mushy and not slip. Too high and i mess up the frame.
52 or 50 seemed ok for the crosses. I think i did 51? The mains were probably ok, as gut holds tension very well. The fact that the gut had notches was not ideal. The premature break, then an hour later, the mounted removal of the crosses canNOT have been as perfect as a fully fresh stringing.
Anyway, it was usable. i am sensitive, so i felt something was awry. But this could have been in my head because of the dubious, frugal thing i did.
I am all for being frugal, but I do not see myself doing this again.
Back on topic!
Babolat rpm 18 and tecnifibre red code wax 18 are now my favorite crosses.
Last edited:
LaZeR
Professional
I wonder if those guys @ coloskier and @ yangster007 or anyone else still does it...
If you try to be "frugal" are ya sure you don't want to hybrid natural gut with 16 gauge (or 17 gauge) crosses? Not 100% certain but thought that lower gauges don't notch nat gut as fast...
Last edited:
slice bh compliment
G.O.A.T.
Yes. But i like the way gut slips on the thinner poly.
LaZeR
Professional
That Tecnifibre Red Code Wax sounds pretty cool... would like to find a reel in 16 or 17 !!
