Best string for Percept 100D?

[Casper777]

Here it is...

What is your experience with this frame.
Head its not super spin friendly so would a shaped poly be the best?

Currently torn between a shaped soft poly like Wasabi or some low tension round poly like hawk touch...

What works the best for those who play with the Percept 100D??

 

[mpournaras]

Spin will come from RHS too. I have played it with Super Toro, Gut/ALU, and some unkown black shaped poly and liked them all about the same for performance.

The gut SIGNIFCANTLY opened up the sweet spot and feel though. It was worth it for me and my moderately spinny game.

 

[ka1m1ng]

i tried toroline kpop and was pleased with the results. controllable and hitting balls with spin was relatively easy.

now on poly tour rev mains and ptp crosses, haven't got the same results with the toroline but only 1 outing with it so far. balls tend to go too deep. strung it with the same tension as toroline.

 

[mad dog1]

What works the best for those who play with the Percept 100D??

Of all the strings I’ve tried in the 100D so far, Volkl Cyclone 1.25 has been the best.

 

[PRS]

I usually prefer round strings in tighter string patterns. I currently have Prince Diablo in mine at 50/46.

 

[Kwale]

Full bed of Signum pro Polaris at 50. Great ground strokes but couldn't stick volleys

Signum pro triton/Polaris at 48 lbs - good spin but a little too low powered, became a trampoline after 8 hrs of play

Confidential/Polaris 48 lbs - after 1 session noticed more spin and more power, decent pocketing, and good for serves but experienced slight shoulder/hand pain.

 

[dr. godmode]

Wasabi Pom Red plays really nicely in my 97 I imagine it would carry over.

 

[lidoazndiabloboi]

I personally use Yonex Poly Tour Drive in my 100D, and it plays pretty well

 

[Curtennis]

I did TW demo of the Percept 100d with the multi and I was getting great spin.
Just bought mine and when it arrives I’ll probably do Grapplesnake Tour Sniper. I think it’s one of the best all around polys if you’re not looking for any single trait in particular.

i guess ill find out next week once it arrives and I string it!

 

[Kwale]

Currently using Signum pro triton 1.18mm strung at 47lbs and love it. Med-low powered, great kicks/spin, and tension maintenance. Cutting strings out after 12-14hrs of play

 

[Frans Bleker]

What about the Ruud setup? Poly Tour Spin / Poly Tour Pro

 

[konstantinos kalfountzos]

If you ever go thin and yellow, try the Isospeed V18 1.17

 

[Kwale]

If you ever go thin and yellow, try the Isospeed V18 1.17

 

[Casper777]

What about the Ruud setup? Poly Tour Spin / Poly Tour Pro

Go wasabi pro instead

 

[Frans Bleker]

Go wasabi pro instead

Why would you pick a new stringline over a battle tested setup? How does Toroline give you a more reliable performance than Yonex?

 

[Anton]

Trying out Karue's setup with K-Pro at 58lb with a ~2 grams total at 3+9+12...WOW combination of spin and control is kinda crazy. 3 hours of hitting for now, will see if it gets too loose.

 

[ryushen21]

K-Pro wasn't bad. Gut/Hawk Rough was amazing.

 

[Trip]

If full poly, I would do a crisp, shaped main (for feel and grip) and slick round cross (for snap), in the 1.15 to 1.23 range, strung medium-low, to open/soften up the bed and get more easy shot curvature. Example: Tour Bite 1.20 / Co-Focus Aqua 1.18 @ 46/44.

 

[Ryebread]

I retired my 100d for a bit.
I just cut out the strings and want to try something.

So, I need more thump
So I was thinking about going from 51/48 to 48/45. Or even lower, to experience low tension!
I play with soft co poly. And always 51 lbs.

Will I still have similar directional control, more velocity and or depth? Or just depth and not velocity?

Has anyone tried a drastically lower tension from their reference?

 

[ryushen21]

I retired my 100d for a bit.
I just cut out the strings and want to try something.

So, I need more thump
So I was thinking about going from 51/48 to 48/45. Or even lower, to experience low tension!
I play with soft co poly. And always 51 lbs.

Will I still have similar directional control, more velocity and or depth? Or just depth and not velocity?

Has anyone tried a drastically lower tension from their reference?

The lowest I've been on a personal racquet was 44/42. Very controllable, good pop.

At the request of one of my players, I did a gravity pro with full poly at Mannarino tension. It honestly was not at all what I expected. I could still swing normally and had decent control. The feel was peculiar though.

 

[gnawhb]

Alu Power at 58lbs. Love it, some might be surprised with higher tensions

 

[VanDerVaart23]

Has anyone done tour hex in the percept 100D?

 

[sabershirou]

Full bed Poly Tour Rev 125 in the new Mint colourway @ 48lbs, stock 100D. Extremely comfortable to hit, controlled power, good clearance off the net for my backhands.

 

[Tan Tennis]

I retired my 100d for a bit.
I just cut out the strings and want to try something.

So, I need more thump
So I was thinking about going from 51/48 to 48/45. Or even lower, to experience low tension!
I play with soft co poly. And always 51 lbs.

Will I still have similar directional control, more velocity and or depth? Or just depth and not velocity?

Has anyone tried a drastically lower tension from their reference?

I did go 40 lbs couple times. Good pop and spin. Controllable or not it depends on what string you use. If you go with a low power stiff string like Tour Bite or Tour Sniper it’s still in control. Feels like soft poly at 48-50 lbs.

 

[Trip]

@Casper777:

Percept 100D:
- Flex: medium-firm
- Pattern: fairly dense (produces medium-high DT-per-unit-tension)
- Feel: mostly muted (compare any Percept to a Yonex from 10+ years ago and tell me otherwise)
- Power-to-Spec Ratio: medium/medium-low

All of that factored in, here are the string qualities I would think you would want:
- Gauge: on the thinner side, to open up the pattern
- Spin Potential: high -- high S-to-B and low S-to-S friction
- Power: at least some pop (ie. prob not a good idea to do something like full-bed 4G/4GS, Hawk, Max Power, etc.)
- Feel: as crisp as possible, to drive max feel through to the handle

All of that factored in, here's the kind of stuff I'd be looking at:
- Shaped Poly: PT Rev 1.20, Pure Rush 1.18 or 1.23, Pro X 1.15 or 1.20
- Round Poly: MSV Co-Focus Silver 1.18 or 1.23, Diadem Flash Navy 1.15 or 1.20
- Multiester: Triax 1.28, HDMX 1.25, Rexis Speed 1.25
- Multi: Multifeel Black 1.25, Micronite 1.25
- Syn Gut: OGSM 1.20 or 1.25, AK Pro CX 1.25, PSGD/LightningXX 1.25
- Gut: Lux or VS, 1.25

Main strategy would be to string as low in tension as you can till control, to open up the sweet spot as much as possible.

Do all of that, and you'll make the 100D as playable as it can be, I would think.

Hope that helps!

 

[VanDerVaart23]

Pure Rush 1.20

What tension have you done with pure rush?

Gut/poly or multi/poly for this frame ?

 

[Trip]

What tension have you done with pure rush?

First off, meant to say Pure Rush 1.18 or 1.23 (doesn't come in 1.20). So far, I've tested 1.18, in a '21 CX 200, at 48 lbs lockout. Played great. I'd say 2/3 crisp, 1/3 muted. Good pop. Good grip.

Gut/poly or multi/poly for this frame ?

If money is no object, gut/poly all day and twice on Sunday. Otherwise, MF Black/poly.

 

[JK208]

I like Grapplesnake Tour M8 at either 44lbs if looking for more control or 42 lbs for a more gut-like feel (but is a little too powerful for the first few hours IMO). Gut/4g is also excellent, but there's not enough spin for my liking.

 

[ServiceWinner76]

First off, meant to say Pure Rush 1.18 or 1.23 (doesn't come in 1.20). So far, I've tested 1.18, in a '21 CX 200, at 48 lbs lockout. Played great. I'd say 2/3 crisp, 1/3 muted. Good pop. Good grip.


If money is no object, gut/poly all day and twice on Sunday. Otherwise, MF Black/poly.

Is this Multi main/ poly cross?

 

[Trip]

Is this Multi main/ poly cross?

Yep!

 

[Anton]

I retired my 100d for a bit.
I just cut out the strings and want to try something.

So, I need more thump
So I was thinking about going from 51/48 to 48/45. Or even lower, to experience low tension!
I play with soft co poly. And always 51 lbs.

Will I still have similar directional control, more velocity and or depth? Or just depth and not velocity?

Has anyone tried a drastically lower tension from their reference?

MUCH more thump on my 100D from a few grams of lead at 3+9+12

Imo this is not a frame for low tension or sub 17g strings. Put the lead on, you’ll get all the lift you want but also control to block and drive flat.

 

[ServiceWinner76]

MUCH more thump on my 100D from a few grams of lead at 3+9+12

Imo this is not a frame for low tension or sub 17g strings. Put the lead on, you’ll get all the lift you want but also control to block and drive flat.

I retired my 100d for a bit.
I just cut out the strings and want to try something.

So, I need more thump
So I was thinking about going from 51/48 to 48/45. Or even lower, to experience low tension!
I play with soft co poly. And always 51 lbs.

Will I still have similar directional control, more velocity and or depth? Or just depth and not velocity?

Has anyone tried a drastically lower tension from their reference?

While mines not drastic, I did string mine up at 41lbs using a constant pull machine on slow pull (definitely makes a difference what type of machine you’re using). And after trying 45lbs and really not liking it for anything but groundies, 41 was an absolute dream. I’m using Ytex Square X Sharp 18 Mains with Ytex Protour Black 17l crosses. My end DT was 33 (I think DT is more important because there are few variables that could make one’s 50lbs tighter or looser than someone else’s). With that poly/poly hybrid I have control, touch and a little bit of pop. And plenty of spin potential from that shaped main.

 

[Anton]

My proportional stringing details:

K-Pro/K-Pop - 17g - electric constant pull machine.

MAINS: 59,59,58,57,57,56,55,54
CROSS: 48, 53, 55, 56, 57, 58,58,58,58,58,58, 57.5, 57, 56.5, 56, 55.5, 55, 54.5, 54, 54.

Plays amazing right off the stringer IMO.

 

[PigPen]

@Casper777:

Percept 100D:
- Flex: medium-firm
- Pattern: fairly dense (produces medium-high DT-per-unit-tension)
- Feel: mostly muted (compare any Percept to a Yonex from 10+ years ago and tell me otherwise)
- Power-to-Spec Ratio: medium/medium-low

All of that factored in, here are the string qualities I would think you would want:
- Gauge: on the thinner side, to open up the pattern
- Spin Potential: high -- high S-to-B and low S-to-S friction
- Power: at least some pop (ie. prob not a good idea to do something like full-bed 4G/4GS, Hawk, Max Power, etc.)
- Feel: as crisp as possible, to drive max feel through to the handle

All of that factored in, here's the kind of stuff I'd be looking at:
- Shaped Poly: PT Rev 1.20, Pure Rush 1.18 or 1.23, Pro X 1.15 or 1.20
- Round Poly: MSV Co-Focus Silver 1.18 or 1.23, Diadem Flash Navy 1.15 or 1.20
- Multiester: Triax 1.28, HDMX 1.25, Rexis Speed 1.25
- Multi: Multifeel Black 1.25, Micronite 1.25
- Syn Gut: OGSM 1.20 or 1.25, AK Pro CX 1.25, PSGD/LightningXX 1.25
- Gut: Lux or VS, 1.25

Main strategy would be to string as low in tension as you can till control, to open up the sweet spot as much as possible.

Do all of that, and you'll make the 100D as playable as it can be, I would think.

Hope that helps!

@Trip Just curious. Why do you specifically mention Co-Focus "silver"? Is the playability of the other colors different?

 

[Trip]

@PigPen - I notice that Silver is ever so slightly more crisp than other colors, but is you had to play the others, they're honestly not that far behind. Aqua is especially nice as well.

 

[OldschoolKIaus]

Mains: Signum Micronite 1.32 at 26kg
Crosses: Polystar Energy 1.25 at 24 kg

Smooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooth.

 

[Ryebread]

My proportional stringing details:

K-Pro/K-Pop - 17g - electric constant pull machine.

MAINS: 59,59,58,57,57,56,55,54
CROSS: 48, 53, 55, 56, 57, 58,58,58,58,58,58, 57.5, 57, 56.5, 56, 55.5, 55, 54.5, 54, 54.

Plays amazing right off the stringer IMO.

Interesting approach.
Where does one’s reference tension go here?

 

[Anton]

Interesting approach.
Where does one’s reference tension go here?

I'd call this a 57

 

[Fuzzy]

Anyone have Multi/poly or gut/poly recommendations??

 

[Trip]

Anyone have Multi/poly or gut/poly recommendations??

Several recommendations elsewhere in this very thread. Bottom line: crisp all the way around, and slick crosses.

 

[Fuzzy]

Several recommendations elsewhere in this very thread. Bottom line: crisp all the way around, and slick crosses.

I'm seeing your post above but i'm honestly not seeing any specific combinations....just seeing general recommendations for the racket and not actual combinations people have hit and enjoyed. Or maybe i'm just being dumb and not reading it right....

 

[PigPen]

@Casper777:

Percept 100D:
- Flex: medium-firm
- Pattern: fairly dense (produces medium-high DT-per-unit-tension)
- Feel: mostly muted (compare any Percept to a Yonex from 10+ years ago and tell me otherwise)
- Power-to-Spec Ratio: medium/medium-low

All of that factored in, here are the string qualities I would think you would want:
- Gauge: on the thinner side, to open up the pattern
- Spin Potential: high -- high S-to-B and low S-to-S friction
- Power: at least some pop (ie. prob not a good idea to do something like full-bed 4G/4GS, Hawk, Max Power, etc.)
- Feel: as crisp as possible, to drive max feel through to the handle

All of that factored in, here's the kind of stuff I'd be looking at:
- Shaped Poly: PT Rev 1.20, Pure Rush 1.18 or 1.23, Pro X 1.15 or 1.20
- Round Poly: MSV Co-Focus Silver 1.18 or 1.23, Diadem Flash Navy 1.15 or 1.20
- Multiester: Triax 1.28, HDMX 1.25, Rexis Speed 1.25
- Multi: Multifeel Black 1.25, Micronite 1.25
- Syn Gut: OGSM 1.20 or 1.25, AK Pro CX 1.25, PSGD/LightningXX 1.25
- Gut: Lux or VS, 1.25

Main strategy would be to string as low in tension as you can till control, to open up the sweet spot as much as possible.

Do all of that, and you'll make the 100D as playable as it can be, I would think.

Hope that helps!

I really enjoy your posts! How did you get so knowledgeable about strings and rackets?

Anyway, do your suggestions for the 100D hold for the 97? Do you recommend the above strings in a full bed or other strings as a cross?

Thank you in advance.

 

[JK208]

I'm seeing your post above but i'm honestly not seeing any specific combinations....just seeing general recommendations for the racket and not actual combinations people have hit and enjoyed. Or maybe i'm just being dumb and not reading it right....

I would recommend VS Touch 17g Mains with Luxilon 4g crosses at 55/52 lbs- go up a few pounds if you really need more control, but IMO 55 is more than high enough.

 

[Fuzzy]

I would recommend VS Touch 17g Mains with Luxilon 4g crosses at 55/52 lbs- go up a few pounds if you really need more control, but IMO 55 is more than high enough.

Appreciate that! I can't possibly believe this racket would need more control. If anything i'd rather make it a little softer. I'm coming from a Blade, so like 62 RA to 66 RA. It's a change but i'm enjoying it so far.

I'm currently at nrg2/hyper G 1.25 both @51. I was honestly wondering if I should go lighter on one or both....or a completely different setup lower than 50.

Looking back up at Trip's list....maybe HDMX 1.25 with a rounded poly in the cross...totally lost on what i'd do with tension there.

 

[JK208]

Appreciate that! I can't possibly believe this racket would need more control. If anything i'd rather make it a little softer. I'm coming from a Blade, so like 62 RA to 66 RA. It's a change but i'm enjoying it so far.

I'm currently at nrg2/hyper G 1.25 both @51. I was honestly wondering if I should go lighter on one or both....or a completely different setup lower than 50.

Looking back up at Trip's list....maybe HDMX 1.25 with a rounded poly in the cross...totally lost on what i'd do with tension there.

I think that Hyper G will saw through the multi too quickly- maybe Isospeed Cream would be a nice soft cross for the NRG2

 

[ServiceWinner76]

I use a Ytex poly/poly hybrid. Square X Sharp 18 in the mains and Protour black 17l in the crosses. I string mine pretty low at 41lbs (slow pull on a constant pull machine). The Protour black is softer and gives the stringbed better pocketing. I like having a round cross to help with string snap back. Plus the square X sharp is a giant pain to weave crosses. And personally I start the top crosses at 39 for 2, 40 for 3 and the rest 41. I hit in the top part of the hoop so that actually made a big difference in feel and opened up the sweet spot! It’s as comfortable as any poly/multi hybrid I’ve ever tried. I have also had elbow and shoulder issues (I work in construction) and do not have any pain with this set up!

 

[BrazilianAmateur]

Hi guys.

I just bought my 100D. I currently use a Blade v6 non countervail with solinco confidential 1.15 mm @54lbs and I intend to continue to use confidential on the 100D. Any suggestions on the tension?

Thank you

 

[daman sidhu]

Hi guys.

I just bought my 100D. I currently use a Blade v6 non countervail with solinco confidential 1.15 mm @54lbs and I intend to continue to use confidential on the 100D. Any suggestions on the tension?

Thank you

I just strung confidential on the 97D at 48/48lbs, it seems to be comfortable enough and still very accurate. You can probably stay between 48-52lbs for starters.

 

[Casper777]

My 100D is a bit overspeced with an unstrung SW of 294... even with light gauge poly it ends up with a 226 SW strung and it make is a bit clunky compared to my regular 100 that are whippy (SW of 318 strung). Guess I'll have to use 115 Hyper G Soft with this one