Best strings for elbow issues...

Jocko

Rookie
Nothing is better than Natural Gut for TE, its expensive but doesn't go dead like other strings. It was the only string that saved my elbow otherwise I was going to have to stop tennis for 6 mths at least. However if your elbow isnt that bad yet maybe you can use multi's
Thanks much!
 

robin1982

Rookie
Nothing is better than Natural Gut for TE, its expensive but doesn't go dead like other strings. It was the only string that saved my elbow otherwise I was going to have to stop tennis for 6 mths at least. However if your elbow isnt that bad yet maybe you can use multi's

Thats not always true! Natural gut made it worse for me! It vibrates at an particular frequency, just as other multifilaments and thats hurts my arm a lot! Stringproject Gold doesnt vibrate ( feels dead) and feels wonderful for my arm! Its very durable. And it holds tension very long! Im a tenniscoach, and I can do easily 5 weeks of 30+ hours teaching in my PT57A's(18x20). And even then it plays great!! You should realy try that! And much cheaper then natural gut!
 

Jocko

Rookie
Thats not always true! Natural gut made it worse for me! It vibrates at an particular frequency, just as other multifilaments and thats hurts my arm a lot! Stringproject Gold doesnt vibrate ( feels dead) and feels wonderful for my arm! Its very durable. And it holds tension very long! Im a tenniscoach, and I can do easily 5 weeks of 30+ hours teaching in my PT57A's(18x20). And even then it plays great!! You should realy try that! And much cheaper then natural gut!
Thanks mate! That bears checking out. Seems not widely available in US...at least yet.
 

robin1982

Rookie
Thanks mate! That bears checking out. Seems not widely available in US...at least yet.

Yes I would try it first before expensive natural gut. And most people didnt try it out and everyone says natural gut, because they read it somewhere. Most people never used natural gut. I tried almost every string in the last 19 years to find the one for me. But its the first which I can play without pain. For me the holy grail for in my PT57A's [emoji846]
 

Dartagnan64

G.O.A.T.
Thats not always true! Natural gut made it worse for me! It vibrates at an particular frequency, just as other multifilaments and thats hurts my arm a lot! Stringproject Gold doesnt vibrate ( feels dead) and feels wonderful for my arm! Its very durable. And it holds tension very long! Im a tenniscoach, and I can do easily 5 weeks of 30+ hours teaching in my PT57A's(18x20). And even then it plays great!! You should realy try that! And much cheaper then natural gut!

kind of the “exception that proves the rule“. There is nothing intrinsic to gut that should adversely affect the arm since it naturally retains resiliency and will absorb vibrations more than any manufactured string.

strings vibrate very little since they are dampened by a crossing pattern. Racket frames vibrate but even so vibrations are likely not at all related to elbow injury. occupational vibration exposure (jack hammers, power tools) etc rarely cause TE. But they cause vascular injury and Raynauds syndrome. Impact energy on a poorly supported elbow causes most cases of TE.

Gut is the best string for elbow issues but it’s not a cure all. Racket weight, stiffness, grip size play a role as does technique. You need to look at everything.

my advice is to always have a go to “soft setup” that limits equipment issues and if that doesn’t help, get a pro to look at your technique and fix problems.

fixing my TE just took a change of equipment. Fixing my GE took strengthening my shoulder and changing my FH.
 

Jocko

Rookie
kind of the “exception that proves the rule“. There is nothing intrinsic to gut that should adversely affect the arm since it naturally retains resiliency and will absorb vibrations more than any manufactured string.

strings vibrate very little since they are dampened by a crossing pattern. Racket frames vibrate but even so vibrations are likely not at all related to elbow injury. occupational vibration exposure (jack hammers, power tools) etc rarely cause TE. But they cause vascular injury and Raynauds syndrome. Impact energy on a poorly supported elbow causes most cases of TE.

Gut is the best string for elbow issues but it’s not a cure all. Racket weight, stiffness, grip size play a role as does technique. You need to look at everything.

my advice is to always have a go to “soft setup” that limits equipment issues and if that doesn’t help, get a pro to look at your technique and fix problems.

fixing my TE just took a change of equipment. Fixing my GE took strengthening my shoulder and changing my FH.
Well stated. In my case, my technique’s fine, grip’s ok. Playing a ProStaff 97 with Tecnifibre NG 17, at 55 lbs.
Sustained a minor off-court elbow injury, took time off, rehab’d on my own (stretches, massage, Therabar, etc.)
First time back on court, all was fine and then, suddenly, elbow pain. Oddly, on top side (TE) and then inner side (GE).
Rehabbing more seriously...with a Physical Therapist...
But also trying to scope out what racquet (ProKennex or Prince Phantom) and which strings would be best to alleviate and/or prevent a recurrence.
Want to do all I can...
 

1HBHfanatic

Legend
kind of the “exception that proves the rule“. There is nothing intrinsic to gut that should adversely affect the arm since it naturally retains resiliency and will absorb vibrations more than any manufactured string.

strings vibrate very little since they are dampened by a crossing pattern. Racket frames vibrate but even so vibrations are likely not at all related to elbow injury. occupational vibration exposure (jack hammers, power tools) etc rarely cause TE. But they cause vascular injury and Raynauds syndrome. Impact energy on a poorly supported elbow causes most cases of TE.

Gut is the best string for elbow issues but it’s not a cure all. Racket weight, stiffness, grip size play a role as does technique. You need to look at everything.

my advice is to always have a go to “soft setup” that limits equipment issues and if that doesn’t help, get a pro to look at your technique and fix problems.

fixing my TE just took a change of equipment. Fixing my GE took strengthening my shoulder and changing my FH.

@Dartagnan64 said it best!
-I was going to say that changing to multis when you have TE is like "putting on a sweater when you catch/have a cold!!",,
-multis feel good, but they don't address the main issue, your swing and/or the racquet
 
Thats not always true! Natural gut made it worse for me! It vibrates at an particular frequency, just as other multifilaments and thats hurts my arm a lot! Stringproject Gold doesnt vibrate ( feels dead) and feels wonderful for my arm! Its very durable. And it holds tension very long! Im a tenniscoach, and I can do easily 5 weeks of 30+ hours teaching in my PT57A's(18x20). And even then it plays great!! You should realy try that! And much cheaper then natural gut!
I beg to differ, There is no string better than Natural Gut for TE/GE, to say there is a exception is a myth. It is also a myth, as you said elsewhere that most people who recommend natural Gut have never tried it. I think most people who have had bad tennis elbow and love tennis do scape there pennies together and try it and a lot are pleasantly surprised. There are clear cut scientific reasons why it is the best and has to with its organic properties . Babolat v Touch I like the most however Klip legend is still pretty good and cheaper. On the down side I played better tennis with polys than NG, I am now experimenting with gut/poly hybrids but only because my elbow is feeling better otherwise i would stick with a full bed of NG.
 

robin1982

Rookie
Its really strange and unrespectfull to doubt what I feel!! When I say natural gut made my injury worse, then its like that!! Why would I lie?
I string for 27 years, tested almost every string. And finally I found a string what works for me to play without pain. I played/coached 19 years with pain every single hour. My arm is very sensitive, when I say that natural gut vibrates at a frequency that gives me a lot of pain in my arm and shoulder then its the truth!! This makes me very angry! And Stringproject Gold is the first string where I noticed that it doesnt vibrate and dont give pain to my arm.
But most people here just repeat what they read.
Did you try this string??
 
Its really strange and unrespectfull to doubt what I feel!! When I say natural gut made my injury worse, then its like that!! Why would I lie?
I string for 27 years, tested almost every string. And finally I found a string what works for me to play without pain. I played/coached 19 years with pain every single hour. My arm is very sensitive, when I say that natural gut vibrates at a frequency that gives me a lot of pain in my arm and shoulder then its the truth!! This makes me very angry! And Stringproject Gold is the first string where I noticed that it doesnt vibrate and dont give pain to my arm.
But most people here just repeat what they read.
Did you try this string??
I wouldn't get angry if I was you and I am not being disrespectful, I respectfully disagree with you. Each to there own
 

robin1982

Rookie
Yes i am. But I hate it that people say things that it looks like i talk ****. I torn my tendons in my elbow, torn my bicep and tricep and both my shoulder joint and shoulder capsule in half. Since then constantly a TE. I feel every vibration in my arm and the Stringproject Gold string is the first one where I feel nothing at all. It took my 19 years and tested hundreds of strings. And natural gut and other multifilaments hurts my arm a lot. I know it sounds weird but it really does! But you should try this Gold string, then you will know what I mean. And its cheaper then natural gut.


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Automatix

Legend
@robin1982
Took a look at this Stringproject thingy and I'm sorry to say they are most likely rebranded Isospeed strings or Isospeed produces their strings - not that it's a bad thing but if the price tag is higher then sorry mate, no deal for me.
The Gold you mention should basically be Isospeed Control.

Look at the techs mentioned - Power Ribbons, Spring Load, Liquid Wax - these are literally Isospeed tech terms introduced a decade ago.
Seriously they could have at least change the names of the techs.
 

robin1982

Rookie
@robin1982
Took a look at this Stringproject thingy and I'm sorry to say they are most likely rebranded Isospeed strings or Isospeed produces their strings - not that it's a bad thing but if the price tag is higher then sorry mate, no deal for me.
The Gold you mention should basically be Isospeed Control.

Look at the techs mentioned - Power Ribbons, Spring Load, Liquid Wax - these are literally Isospeed tech terms introduced a decade ago.
Seriously they could have at least change the names of the techs.

I know. Its coming from the same factory as isospeed but I played with Isospeed in the past and these strings are different. And it works for me so im satisfied, and I get 20% discount so its fine.
 

Automatix

Legend
Isospeed strings aren't OEM AFAIK.
Isospeed has its own facilities.
So it's more accurate to say that Isospeed is producing their strings rather then they are made in they same factory.

As long as you're happy with them, it shouldn't matters though.
 

robin1982

Rookie
Isospeed strings aren't OEM AFAIK.
Isospeed has its own facilities.
So it's more accurate to say that Isospeed is producing their strings rather then they are made in they same factory.

As long as you're happy with them, it shouldn't matters though.

Yes I know, thats what I mean. And thats why they have the same tecniques. But it are different strings. And your right, im very happy with them. At last after 19 years!


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Happi

Hall of Fame
I have to agree about the Isospeed Control Classic string. A very comfortable string to use and the multi that i've always felt plays the most like natural gut. Highly recommend.

I have a very sensitive arm like a lot of players here, and also had my fair share of TE and GE. I played with almost every multi, sync gut and gut to find a setup that did not hurt my arm.

@robin1982 have a point as I have also experienced problems with some gut strings, perhaps I strung too tight, perhaps a bad batch. But I still believe that gut is the ultimate string for arm problems strung low, I never had problems with Klip Legends og Babolat Tonic+

The softest and most arm friendly multi I tried was the Isospeed Professional Classic, this is the 17g version of the Control. Bet setup for me was Gut mains and Isospeed Professional Classic as crosses. Isospeed kind of dampens the power of the gut, and strings don't move (I hate that on multis).

Other good multi to try out is Mantis Comfort Syntehtic, this string and the Iso is also low in price.

I never tried the Gold string Robin advocate but I could be very interested.

Ashaway ZX Pro is supposed to be very soft, but I did not like the feeling and to me it played stiff, and this is contrary to other TT experts.

One thing that really softens and enhancing the stringbed, and makes mishits much more comfortable is Sergetti stringing method. I was really skeptical but now I am a convert :)

Good luck with finding a good setup.

Looking at your racquet could be the next step.....
 

Happi

Hall of Fame
@robin1982
Took a look at this Stringproject thingy and I'm sorry to say they are most likely rebranded Isospeed strings or Isospeed produces their strings - not that it's a bad thing but if the price tag is higher then sorry mate, no deal for me.
The Gold you mention should basically be Isospeed Control.

Look at the techs mentioned - Power Ribbons, Spring Load, Liquid Wax - these are literally Isospeed tech terms introduced a decade ago.
Seriously they could have at least change the names of the techs.

Looks more like Isospeed Energetic:

 

sovertennis

Professional
Yes I would try it first before expensive natural gut. And most people didnt try it out and everyone says natural gut, because they read it somewhere. Most people never used natural gut. I tried almost every string in the last 19 years to find the one for me. But its the first which I can play without pain. For me the holy grail for in my PT57A's [emoji846]

I'm also a teaching pro and use a full set of natural gut (and not because I "read it somewhere") to help alleviate elbow and forearm issues. For me, natty gut has been very helpful. Regarding the cost, yes, it's more expensive per set then multis, but the string life is far longer, IME.

In my "playing" rackets, I generally string natty gut in the mains and a high-end poly (eg Dunlop Explosive Red) in the crosses.
 

Jouke

Professional
Following. Some of the suggestions here sound really really good. Going to try the stringproject strings myself!
 

Jocko

Rookie
For PS 97, stiffness is around 65. Usually does not cause arm problems unless full bed of stiff polys are used. Hybrids work better in it.
Yes, I didn’t think it was a particularly stiff racquet...actually I love the ‘feel’. And I strung it with full multis...Tecnifibre NRG2 17 at 55 lbs. I know everyone suggests natural gut but I don’t use animal products...
So trying to research racquets (ProKennex, Phantoms) and strings to alleviate or prevent recurrence once I get back to playing...
Thanks for inquiring, mate!
 

robin1982

Rookie
I'm also a teaching pro and use a full set of natural gut (and not because I "read it somewhere") to help alleviate elbow and forearm issues. For me, natty gut has been very helpful. Regarding the cost, yes, it's more expensive per set then multis, but the string life is far longer, IME.

In my "playing" rackets, I generally string natty gut in the mains and a high-end poly (eg Dunlop Explosive Red) in the crosses.

I know natural gut helps for 99% but there are always exceptions like myself.
For a lot helps nat gut in the mains and a poly in the crosses. I wish it works for me. ( Because i love alu power, but cant play with it anymore) But no. And I can not play with high tension. I play with 12 kilo's in the mains and 14 kilo's in the crosses. Im glad I can play with these low kilo's. But next to natural gut, the stringproject Gold could work for a lot of people. And is cheaper but still very durable and the tension maintenance is very good! Give it a try!
 

robin1982

Rookie
I have a very sensitive arm like a lot of players here, and also had my fair share of TE and GE. I played with almost every multi, sync gut and gut to find a setup that did not hurt my arm.

@robin1982 have a point as I have also experienced problems with some gut strings, perhaps I strung too tight, perhaps a bad batch. But I still believe that gut is the ultimate string for arm problems strung low, I never had problems with Klip Legends og Babolat Tonic+

The softest and most arm friendly multi I tried was the Isospeed Professional Classic, this is the 17g version of the Control. Bet setup for me was Gut mains and Isospeed Professional Classic as crosses. Isospeed kind of dampens the power of the gut, and strings don't move (I hate that on multis).

Other good multi to try out is Mantis Comfort Syntehtic, this string and the Iso is also low in price.

I never tried the Gold string Robin advocate but I could be very interested.

Ashaway ZX Pro is supposed to be very soft, but I did not like the feeling and to me it played stiff, and this is contrary to other TT experts.

One thing that really softens and enhancing the stringbed, and makes mishits much more comfortable is Sergetti stringing method. I was really skeptical but now I am a convert :)

Good luck with finding a good setup.

Looking at your racquet could be the next step.....

I tried sergetti as wel but I noticed a lack of control and I hit the ball most of the time already in the sweetspot and with 12/14 kilo's thats perfect for me. With the Gold string. When I read this all back, I need to buy shares in their company[emoji1787] but its the first string that I really love and play without pain, so im very exciting about it! You should really give it a try!

And the racket is the other step! If your swingweight is to high for your arm.. Then no string will help you..

Good luck with the search!!
Im out, my doughter is born[emoji3059]
 

Happi

Hall of Fame
I will try them again! Play with different rackets then years ago. They ensured me they designed their own strings, but Isospeed makes them.

I only stated that the Iso Energetic looked more like your gold string than any other iso string, not sure at all it is the same string.

Anyway I will give the gold a try. Thanks for the suggestion.

I am not sure Sergetti will work if you string that low. Sergetti stringing gives me a more even string bed and actually more control and more comfort. I am totally hooked.

You could ask Sergetti to include the string in their database.
 

robin1982

Rookie
I only stated that the Iso Energetic looked more like your gold string than any other iso string, not sure at all it is the same string.

Anyway I will give the gold a try. Thanks for the suggestion.

I am not sure Sergetti will work if you string that low. Sergetti stringing gives me a more even string bed and actually more control and more comfort. I am totally hooked.

You could ask Sergetti to include the string in their database.

Yes but i will try it to test it again and to feel the differences.

You are welcome! Let me know what your experiences are with the Gold string.

I dont think sergetti wil work in what they try to reach with their methods. I have one at 14 kilo's but thats what I wrote before. My customized PT57A's will do the rest with the Gold string!
 

Happi

Hall of Fame
@robin1982 BTW what Natural Gut string did you have your problems with, or is it all NG strings. I remember that Pacific Tournament Pro (their top string) felt very stiff to me, and Pacific strings are suppose to be the softest NG string if you read the comments.

Gold as a multi string at 14 kg, does it not move like crazy ?
 

kailash

Hall of Fame
Yes, I didn’t think it was a particularly stiff racquet...actually I love the ‘feel’. And I strung it with full multis...Tecnifibre NRG2 17 at 55 lbs. I know everyone suggests natural gut but I don’t use animal products...
So trying to research racquets (ProKennex, Phantoms) and strings to alleviate or prevent recurrence once I get back to playing...
Thanks for inquiring, mate!
U r welcome; i fall in the same category, no animal products!

I played with several Prokennex racquets, and have Q+5 Pros now. Prokennex racquets are the best for arm friendliness! 5G, 7G, Q+5 pro or Q+5 tour 315 can replace PS 97.

Heard good things about Phantoms, but I do not have any experience with those yet.
 
kind of the “exception that proves the rule“. There is nothing intrinsic to gut that should adversely affect the arm since it naturally retains resiliency and will absorb vibrations more than any manufactured string.

strings vibrate very little since they are dampened by a crossing pattern. Racket frames vibrate but even so vibrations are likely not at all related to elbow injury. occupational vibration exposure (jack hammers, power tools) etc rarely cause TE. But they cause vascular injury and Raynauds syndrome. Impact energy on a poorly supported elbow causes most cases of TE.

Gut is the best string for elbow issues but it’s not a cure all. Racket weight, stiffness, grip size play a role as does technique. You need to look at everything.

my advice is to always have a go to “soft setup” that limits equipment issues and if that doesn’t help, get a pro to look at your technique and fix problems.

fixing my TE just took a change of equipment. Fixing my GE took strengthening my shoulder and changing my FH.

Out of curiosity, what did you change?
 

Jocko

Rookie
U r welcome; i fall in the same category, no animal products!

I played with several Prokennex racquets, and have Q+5 Pros now. Prokennex racquets are the best for arm friendliness! 5G, 7G, Q+5 pro or Q+5 tour 315 can replace PS 97.

Heard good things about Phantoms, but I do not have any experience with those yet.
Good on you for no animal products!

And appreciate your ProKennex thoughts. I’ve never tried them but certainly am aware of their long-standing rep for arm friendliness, TE in particular. I’m very curious about how their “kinetic“ system counters their RA ratings.

And I too have heard nothing but gold stuff about the Phantoms...RAs in the mid-50s but not spongy...low-powered but that’s not really my game so I’d take that deal to get...and keep!...my elbow pain-free.

Will be checking out both...

Thanks again!
 
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