Best versions of Nadal vs peak Djokovic on all surfaces.

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Honestly the way I see it
Slow HC : 7-3Novak
Fast HC : 7-3 Novak
Indoor HC : 9-1 Novak
Grass: 6-4 Novak
Clay : 9-1 Nadal

Overall Peak Novak with + 10 differential.

Next up Peak Federer vs Peak Nadal on all surface
P.S : Some people just want to watch the world burn.
 
Totally without any logical stastical metrics but if I had to rate them

Peak Nadal
Clay 110/100
Grass 93/100 (Modern Grass)
Indoor HC 80/100
Slow HC 90/100
Fast HC 90/100

Peak Djokovic

Clay 92/100
Grass 93/100
Indoor HC 95/ 100
Slow HC 97 /100
Fast HC 93/100

FRAUD at peak of his Fraudery in Weak era
Clay 90/100
Grass 97 /100
Indoor HC 95/100
Slow HC 95/100
Fast HC 97/100
 
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in a single match Nadal would be competitive everywhere outside clay, but in a series of matches Djokovic would win everywhere outside clay because he's been more consistent.
 
Slow HC : 8-2 Djokovic
Fast HC : 7-3 Djokovic
Indoor HC : 9-1 Djokovic
Grass: 7-3 Djokovic
Clay : 8-2 Nadal
 
I don't do the whole slow and fast hard court thing...in tennis there's hard courts, indoor courts, grass courts and clay courts
 
125downthemiddle said:
Probably 9 to 1 for Djoker

Give me till tomorrow for surface rankings.

For a work of this level of genius that I will unleash on you, I need a few hours and a night's rest to ponder
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Very well Sir, with bated breaths I shall await the conclusion of your extreme endeavors. Together we shall put BOAT debates to rest and proclaim the one true GOD of tennis Murray to be the GOAT and the BOAT . All the non believers will finally see the light.
 
Based on their actual results against each other at the major events:

AO: Djoker 10-0
FO: Nadal: 9-1
WImbledon: Djoker 7-3
USO: Nadal 7-3
Olympics: Nadal 10-0
Davis Cup: Nadal 10-0
YEC: Djoker 6-4

TOTAL: Nadal 43, Djokovic 27. Nadal with a +16 differential or 59% better than Djoker.
 
TheNatural said:
Based on their actual results against each other at the major events:

AO: Djoker 10-0
FO: Nadal: 9-1
WImbledon: Djoker 7-3
USO: Nadal 7-3
Olympics: Nadal 10-0
Davis Cup: Nadal 10-0
YEC: Djoker 6-4

TOTAL: Nadal 43, Djokovic 26. Nadal with a +17 differential or 65% better than Djoker.
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there are only five major events....the four slams and the tennis masters cup are your five major tournaments throughout the year....the davis cup and the olympics are team events with one of them taking place only once every four years
 
Only a hardcore Djoker fan would say 9-1 for Nadal at RG. Any other unbiased, neutral and objective tennis fan would say 10-0. Nadal’s best at RG ain’t losing to Peakovic. That Nadal could only lose to Borg and possibly Lendl on that surface.
 
Druss said:
Only a hardcore Djoker fan would say 9-1 for Nadal at RG. Any other unbiased, neutral and objective tennis fan would say 10-0. Nadal’s best at RG ain’t losing to Peakovic. That Nadal could only lose to Borg and possibly Lendl on that surface.
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Borg's level is probably ~ATP500 (at best). I don't expect that Borg could get a game against Nadal (I watched him live many times). Ask Mustur B, he is a ATP professional coach. Regarding Djokovic he did beat him at RG, so he is probably even better than 1:9. However, I don't complain as Djokovic is hypothetically very bad player. Usually, he loses all hypothetical matches, he wins only real life matches.
 
ABCD said:
Borg's level is probably ~ATP500 (at best). I don't expect that Borg could get a game against Nadal (I watched him live many times). Ask Mustur B, he is a ATP professional coach. Regarding Djokovic he did beat him at RG, so he is probably even better than 1:9. However, I don't complain as Djokovic is hypothetically very bad player. Usually, he loses all hypothetical matches, he wins only real life matches.
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What are you on about? You seriously bringing up RG’15? Nadal’s worst year since 2003? This thread is about Nadal’s BEST. Djoker ain’t beating 2006/07/08/10/11 Nadal. Period.
 
Druss said:
What are you on about? You seriously bringing up RG’15? Nadal’s worst year since 2003? This thread is about Nadal’s BEST. Djoker ain’t beating 2006/07/08/10/11 Nadal. Period.
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It felt a tad bit disrespectful to Djoker 's post 2011 performances against Nadal to not give him a win.

But I admit it will be difficult.

However then Nadal is also not winning a single indoor HC match against Peak Djokovic.
 
Druss said:
What are you on about? You seriously bringing up RG’15? Nadal’s worst year since 2003? This thread is about Nadal’s BEST. Djoker ain’t beating 2006/07/08/10/11 Nadal. Period.
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As I said, Djokovic wins only real live matches. I just point out to you that if you claim that Djokovic is 0:10 against Nadal then you can't expect Borg or Lendl to get a single game. If Djokovic and Nadal would play in real life 10 times (as an example now), I would be happy to have a good bet with you that Djokovic is winning some. You know what it means hic Rhodus, hic salta.
 
ABCD said:
As I said, Djokovic wins only real live matches. I just point out to you that if you claim that Djokovic is 0:10 against Nadal then you can't expect Borg or Lendl to get a single game. If Djokovic and Nadal would play in real life 10 times (as an example now), I would be happy to have a good bet with you that Djokovic is winning some. You know what it means hic Rhodus, hic salta.
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Wow! So you’re telling me that Djokovic is much better than Borg and Lendl on Clay?
 
Druss said:
Wow! So you’re telling me that Djokovic is much better than Borg and Lendl on Clay?
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Zillion times. I watched them all 3 live many times. What Djokovic can do on clay Borg and Lendl could not imagine. Go back in time, take Borg 1975, bring him here and put him on front of Dzumhur (not Djokovic) and Dzumhur would slaughter him. Lendl would be more difficult, but still comfortable.
 
For his era, Lendl was a comfortably better clay court player than Djokovic in his.

Regarding the subject, I will just say that tennis wins on all surfaces.
 
Raining hopes said:
Yes I am bored .

Honestly the way I see it
Slow HC : 7-3Novak
Fast HC : 7-3 Novak
Indoor HC : 9-1 Novak
Grass: 6-4 Novak
Clay : 9-1 Nadal

Overall Peak Novak with + 10 differential.

Next up Peak Federer vs Peak Nadal on all surface
P.S : Some people just want to watch the world burn.
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Odd username for someone that enjoys watching things burn.
 
TheNatural said:
Based on their actual results against each other at the major events:

AO: Djoker 10-0
FO: Nadal: 9-1
WImbledon: Djoker 7-3
USO: Nadal 7-3
Olympics: Nadal 10-0
Davis Cup: Nadal 10-0
YEC: Djoker 6-4

TOTAL: Nadal 43, Djokovic 27. Nadal with a +16 differential or 59% better than Djoker.
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So a single win by Nole at AO and a single win at Olympics and Davis cup for Nadal gets translated to 10-0? hahah what? Especially with Davis Cup which was on clay but changes surface so unless we're saying all 10 DC matches would be on clay, makes no sense. In fact there's no point even including DC at all

To play olympics 10 times they'd have to play for at least 40 years and again the surface has changed there and the venue changes every time so not much point including that. I know certain people love to put DC and Olympics in everything but this is a case where it really doesn't make any sense including them
 
ABCD said:
Zillion times. I watched them all 3 live many times. What Djokovic can do on clay Borg and Lendl could not imagine. Go back in time, take Borg 1975, bring him here and put him on front of Dzumhur (not Djokovic) and Dzumhur would slaughter him. Lendl would be more difficult, but still comfortable.
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I agree.Borg would have never lost to player like Stan in a RG final.
 
AO: Djovk
IW: Djovk
Miami: Djovk
MC: Nadl
Rome: Nadl
Hamburg: Nadl
RG: Nadl
Wimbulldone: Novak Djokovic
Canada: hmm, I dunno lol
Cincinnati: Djovk
USO: Rafael Nadal
Shanghai: Djovk
Paris: Djovk
WTF: Djovk

Djovk - Nadl 7-4 (1-1 in slems, 1-0 in YEC)

Novak Djokovic - Rafael Nadal 1-1 (Wimby vs USO)

I dunno lol 1
 
ABCD said:
Zillion times. I watched them all 3 live many times. What Djokovic can do on clay Borg and Lendl could not imagine. Go back in time, take Borg 1975, bring him here and put him on front of Dzumhur (not Djokovic) and Dzumhur would slaughter him. Lendl would be more difficult, but still comfortable.
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Why not transport Dzumhur in time to 1969? He would shred Laver to bits! Adios Laver...Dzumhur GOAT.
 
Hydrocella said:
Raining hopes is how revolutions start, watching everything burn is often how they finish.

You’re right though, mood swings would be the bit in the middle.
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Don't worry sir , mine isn't the dream of the revolution but of the peace that dawns thereafter. This man knows that such peace can only be claimed if the pursuit was of pure kind not the one that bowed to the sins of vengence and violence.

This change in demeanor is but a momentary impediment, the traveller has had enough hardships to know the ways of corruption. I may not be incorruptible but, trust me sir I have the will to abstain.

So let it start by raining hopes and then let the storm of rebellion end with mild showers of peace. Let the Sun of wisdom dawn , let the wind whisper the songs of a hopeful morn.

Then there shall be no need of rains of hope as the earth would have had it's years worth thirst quenched. Hope shall then inhabit the life that grows from her womb.


Well yes I am bored.
 
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Druss said:
What are you on about? You seriously bringing up RG’15? Nadal’s worst year since 2003? This thread is about Nadal’s BEST. Djoker ain’t beating 2006/07/08/10/11 Nadal. Period.
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Djoker would have defeated Nadal on RG 2011 if he defeated Federer in SF. Roger's victory over Djoker helped Nadal win the RG 2011. Nadal was desperate from Djoker, all six mutual matches with Ultron in 2011 Bull lost.
 
If Were going Best vs. Best:

AO. 6-4 Djoker
French- 10-0 Nadal
Wimbledon 6-4 Nadal
USO-7-3 Nadal


Nadal at his "best" is better than Djokovic at 3 of the 4 slams. 2008, 2010 Nadal is going to beat 2011 or 2014-2015 Djokovic at Wimbledon 2011 Djokovic will beat 2009 Nadal at the AO. 2008 Nadal is going to destroy any version of Djokovic at the French. 2010 USO Nadal will beat any version of Djokovic at the USO


Nadal at his best is better than Djokovic at best. Djokovic's "B Game" is better than Nadal's however
 
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