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Which matches do you think each member regrets losing the most?

For Federer (in no particular order):

2008 Wimbledon Finals (chance for 6 (possibly 7) straight Wimby's and 3 straight wins vs Rafa)
2009 Australian Open Finals (his post-game reaction says it all)
2019 Wimbledon Finals (doesn't get worse than this)
2009 US Open Finals (could've won the NCYGS; choked away set 2 and 4, and got blown off the court in set 5 against a 20-year old)
2005 Australian Open Semis (could've had 4 straight 3-slam seasons; would've been a massive feat for the GOAT debate)
2014 Wimbledon Finals (had BP to serve for a Nicklaus-like resurgence)
2010/11 US Open Semis (40-15 again...in b2b years, in the same touney, in the same round, against the same player...RIP)
2007/11 French Open Finals (How many BPs did Fed have in '07 and how in the world did he lost set 1 in '11)
2014 US Open Semis (MUGlic decided to GOAT or else Fed would've drew 'Kori in a gimme finals)
2015 US Open Finals (How many squandered BPs again?)

For Nadal (in no particular order):

2012 Australian Open Finals (Up a break in the fifth...)
2017 Australian Open Finals (Up a break in the fifth...again)
2014 Australian Open Finals (Body fell apart against a player who's never took a set off him)
2018 Wimbledon Semis (Had SPs in set 3 and multiple BPs in the fifth)
2007 Wimbledon Finals (Had many BPs in the fifth)
2009 French Open R16 (I know he had to lose there at some point in his career, but damn given the complexion of men's tennis at the time, he could have permanently put Fed to bed with another beating in the eventual finals if Soderling never happened on that fateful day)

For Djokovic (in no particular order):
2013 French Open Semis (Up a break in the fifth...until he touched the net...if only he didn't touch the net)
2015 French Open Finals (Slayed Rafa but got Stanimaled...at the time, it looked like Nole's chances of winning RG was fading)
2011 French Open Semis (Could've won the CYGS)
2014 US Open Semis (How tf did he lose to Nishikori of all ppl...a horrible blown opportunity by Nole here)
2014 Australian Open Quarters (Could've won 6 straight AOs)
2012 US Open Finals (he gave this away to Murray in set 5)

Since Fed is my fav player out of these three, '08 Wimbledon and '09 AO were the worst losses...until '19 Wimbledon of course.
 
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StrongRule said:
Another proof that Djokovic doesn't really have any heartbreaking losses in his career. You have to bring some random matches to his list.
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Actually he did blow quite a lot of chances. He may have already passed Fedal in the slam race if he didn't lose in the business end of majors against the likes of Stan (4x), Murray (2x), Thiem, and Nishikori
 
clout said:
Which matches do you think each member regrets losing the most?

For Federer (in no particular order):

2008 Wimbledon Finals (chance for 6 (possibly 7) straight Wimby's and 3 straight wins vs Rafa)
2009 Australian Open Finals (his post-game reaction says it all)
2019 Wimbledon Finals (doesn't get worse than this)
2009 US Open Finals (could've won the NCYGS; choked away set 2 and 4, and got blown off the court in set 5 against a 20-year old)
2005 Australian Open Semis (could've had 4 straight 3-slam seasons; would've been a massive feat for the GOAT debate)
2014 Wimbledon Finals (had BP to serve for a Nicklaus-like resurgence)
2010/11 US Open Semis (40-15 again...)
2007/11 French Open Finals (How many BPs did Fed have in '07 and how in the world did he lost set 1 in '11)
2014 US Open Semis (MUGlic decided to GOAT or else Fed would've drew 'Kori in the finals)
2015 US Open Finals (How many squandered BPs again)

For Nadal (in no particular order):

2012 Australian Open Finals (Up a break in the fifth...)
2017 Australian Open Finals (Up a break in the fifth...again)
2014 Australian Open Finals (Body fell apart against a player who's never took a set off him)
2018 Wimbledon Semis (Had SPs in set 3 and multiple BPs in the fifth)
2007 Wimbledon Finals (Had many BPs in the fifth)

For Djokovic (in no particular order):
2013 French Open Semis (Up a break in the fifth...until he touched the net...if only he didn't touch the net)
2015 French Open Finals (Slayed Rafa but got Stanimaled...at the time, it looked like Nole's chances of winning RG was fading)
2011 French Open Semis (Could've won the CYGS)
2014 US Open Semis (How tf did he lose to Nishikori of all ppl...a horrible blown opportunity by Nole here)
2014 Australian Open Quarters (Could've won 6 straight AOs)
2012 US Open Finals (he gave this away to Murray in set 5)

Since Fed is my fav player out of these three, '08 Wimbledon and '09 AO were the worst losses...until '19 Wimbledon of course.
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Looking back at the 2008 WB F, given the way things looked after the first 2 sets, it's remarcable that the match went deep into the 5th.Anyway, he had to lose at some point after years of domination.
 
clout said:
Actually he did blow quite a lot of chances. He may have already passed Fedal in the slam race if he didn't lose in the business end of majors against the likes of Stan (4x), Murray (2x), Thiem, and Nishikori
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Well, should I start saying what would have happen to the records if Federer and Nadal didn't miss chances? Compared to them he doesn't have many losses in close matches. And even when he lost a close match he was just outplayed there, not choked. Wawrinka is a tough matchup for Djokovic (it was clear even before) and he played great in these matches, so I don't see why Djokovic "should" have won them. Murray in 2012 was a much better player than in 2015-2016, so I wouldn't call USO 2012 a very bad loss. Of course USO 2014 was a real missed chance, no doubt.
 
Actually, Novak has had plenty of losses that had a negative impact on his ability to win the Slams race:

2013 French Open Semfinal: He touched the Net at the worst moment possible. That was as flukiest as an event that could have ever happened.

2013 Wimbledon: He is up 4-2 in both the second and third set and Murray managed to break him to win. He was serving to go up 5-2 in both sets. In the second set, he had game point to go up 5-2 but Murray hit an amazing return that Novak couldn't get to. He was in position to win that match.

2013 US Open Final- In the third set, he was up 40-0 when it was tied 4-4. He get the break and is serving for the set. If he won the third set, he would have won the match due to the momentum of the match.

2014 Australian Open: He broke Stan to take a 2-1 lead in the 5th Set and was just coming of a dominant 4th Set that he won 6-3. He was in charge at that point.

2016 US Open Final: He was as fresh and healthy as he could have been heading into the final. With the walkovers and retirements that he got in that tournament, that was going to be the easiest Grand Slam that he could have gotten. He won the first set against Stan and the second and third set could have gone his way when you look at how close it was.

Also, the 2015 French Open Final is interesting. In the 4th set, Novak was up 40-0, 4-3 with three breaks point. He could have won that 4th set and taken it to a 5th set which could have changed that Final. It wasn't like Stan blew him out in the 4th set and he never had a chance to put himself in position to win the match.
 
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BladeDaywalker said:
Actually, Novak has had plenty of losses that had a negative impact on his ability to win the Slams race:

2013 French Open Semfinal: He touched the Net at the worst moment possible. That was as flukiest as an event that could have ever happened.

2013 Wimbledon: He is up 4-2 in both the second and third set and Murray managed to break him to win. He was serving to go up 5-2 in both sets. In the second set, he had game point to go up 5-2 but Murray hit an amazing return that Novak couldn't get to. He was in position to win that match.

2013 US Open Final- In the third set, he was up 40-0 when it was tied 4-4. He get the break and is serving for the set. If he won the third set, he would have won the match due to the momentum of the match.

2014 Australian Open: He broke Stan to take a 2-1 lead in the 5th Set and was just coming of a dominant 4th Set that he won 6-3. He was in charge at that point.

2016 US Open Final: He was as fresh and healthy as he could have been heading into the final. With the walkovers and retirements that he got in that tournament, that was going to be the easiest Grand Slam that he could have gotten. He won the first set against Stan and the second and third set could have gone his way when you look at how close it was.
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So you totally ignore the other side. In RG 2013 semifinal there should have never been a fifth set. Nadal was the better player during almost the whole match, but then he choked in the fourth set. Djokovic fans should be grateful for that gift instead of crying that Djokovic didn't win the fifth set. Leave alone the fact that Nadal hit 22 winners in the fifth set, some of them in very important moments. This is how he won the match.

In USO 2013 final Nadal saved that triple BP himself, it's not like Djokovic hit terrible errors on that key points.
 
clout said:
Which matches do you think each member regrets losing the most?

For Federer (in no particular order):

2008 Wimbledon Finals (chance for 6 (possibly 7) straight Wimby's and 3 straight wins vs Rafa)
2019 Wimbledon Finals (doesn't get worse than this)
2009 US Open Finals (could've won the NCYGS; choked away set 2 and 4, and got blown off the court in set 5 against a 20-year old)
2014 Wimbledon Finals (had BP to serve for a Nicklaus-like resurgence)
2010/11 US Open Semis (40-15 again...in b2b years, in the same touney, in the same round, against the same player...RIP)
2007/11 French Open Finals (How many BPs did Fed have in '07 and how in the world did he lost set 1 in '11
2015 US Open Finals (How many squandered BPs again?)

For Nadal (in no particular order):

2012 Australian Open Finals (Up a break in the fifth...)
2017 Australian Open Finals (Up a break in the fifth...again)
2018 Wimbledon Semis (Had SPs in set 3 and multiple BPs in the fifth)


For Djokovic (in no particular order):
2013 French Open Semis (Up a break in the fifth...until he touched the net...if only he didn't touch the net)
2015 French Open Finals (Slayed Rafa but got Stanimaled...at the time, it looked like Nole's chances of winning RG was fading)
2014 US Open Semis (How tf did he lose to Nishikori of all ppl...a horrible blown opportunity by Nole here)
2012 US Open Finals (he gave this away to Murray in set 5)
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Out of your list i would really onnly consider these matches that slipped away. Sometimes the other player is just too good though
 
StrongRule said:
Another proof that Djokovic doesn't really have any heartbreaking losses in his career. You have to bring some random matches to his list.
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He doesn't but you have to factor in the matches he should easily have won on paper but ended up losing (and to be fair, that's happened a few times). I'm not sure what OP's criteria is, but for me that would count as letting a match slip away.
 
Lew II said:
There's a difference here. Nadal came out strong after 2017 AO loss winning RG and UO, while Djokovic and Federer were hurt by the losses in the following results too.
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Exactly. Nadal is heartless in preventing greater legacies for my sports heroes. He has no real emotions.
 
Lew II said:
There's a difference here. Nadal came out strong after 2017 AO loss winning RG and UO, while Djokovic and Federer were hurt by the losses in the following results too.
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Well to be fair, that was because Nadal's AO run was already a massive improvement over the previous two seasons so he was more likely to carry that momentum over into the rest of the season
 
clout said:
Which matches do you think each member regrets losing the most?

For Federer (in no particular order):

2008 Wimbledon Finals (chance for 6 (possibly 7) straight Wimby's and 3 straight wins vs Rafa)
2009 Australian Open Finals (his post-game reaction says it all)
2019 Wimbledon Finals (doesn't get worse than this)
2009 US Open Finals (could've won the NCYGS; choked away set 2 and 4, and got blown off the court in set 5 against a 20-year old)
2005 Australian Open Semis (could've had 4 straight 3-slam seasons; would've been a massive feat for the GOAT debate)
2014 Wimbledon Finals (had BP to serve for a Nicklaus-like resurgence)
2010/11 US Open Semis (40-15 again...in b2b years, in the same touney, in the same round, against the same player...RIP)
2007/11 French Open Finals (How many BPs did Fed have in '07 and how in the world did he lost set 1 in '11)
2014 US Open Semis (MUGlic decided to GOAT or else Fed would've drew 'Kori in a gimme finals)
2015 US Open Finals (How many squandered BPs again?)

For Nadal (in no particular order):

2012 Australian Open Finals (Up a break in the fifth...)
2017 Australian Open Finals (Up a break in the fifth...again)
2014 Australian Open Finals (Body fell apart against a player who's never took a set off him)
2018 Wimbledon Semis (Had SPs in set 3 and multiple BPs in the fifth)
2007 Wimbledon Finals (Had many BPs in the fifth)
2009 French Open R16 (I know he had to lose there at some point in his career, but damn given the complexion of men's tennis at the time, he could have permanently put Fed to bed with another beating in the eventual finals if Soderling never happened on that fateful day)

For Djokovic (in no particular order):
2013 French Open Semis (Up a break in the fifth...until he touched the net...if only he didn't touch the net)
2015 French Open Finals (Slayed Rafa but got Stanimaled...at the time, it looked like Nole's chances of winning RG was fading)
2011 French Open Semis (Could've won the CYGS)
2014 US Open Semis (How tf did he lose to Nishikori of all ppl...a horrible blown opportunity by Nole here)
2014 Australian Open Quarters (Could've won 6 straight AOs)
2012 US Open Finals (he gave this away to Murray in set 5)

Since Fed is my fav player out of these three, '08 Wimbledon and '09 AO were the worst losses...until '19 Wimbledon of course.
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2014 AO Finals against Stan was the most painful on my end. Damn you, ugly Swiss
 
StrongRule said:
So you totally ignore the other side. In RG 2013 semifinal there should have never been a fifth set. Nadal was the better player during almost the whole match, but then he choked in the fourth set. Djokovic fans should be grateful for that gift instead of crying that Djokovic didn't win the fifth set. Leave alone the fact that Nadal hit 22 winners in the fifth set, some of them in very important moments. This is how he won the match.

In USO 2013 final Nadal saved that triple BP himself, it's not like Djokovic hit terrible errors on that key points.
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You do know that the same could be said for the other side as well regarding Nadal's matches. In the 2012 Australian Open Final, Novak was serving in the 4th set tiebreak while up 5-3. Novak missed an easy forehand when it went outside of the line by a few inches. He easily could have won the match in 4 sets.

If you are going to say that Nadal choked the 4th set, then someone could argue that Novak should never have let Nadal win the 4th set tiebreak since he was in control of the tiebreak at that point.
 
Slam final/semifinal 5th set losses:

Federer 10
Nadal 4
Djokovic 3

Federer probably missed more opportunities than Djokodal put together...
 
BladeDaywalker said:
You do know that the same could be said for the other side as well regarding Nadal's matches. In the 2012 Australian Open Final, Novak was serving in the 4th set tiebreak while up 5-3. Novak missed an easy forehand when it went outside of the line by a few inches. He easily could have won the match in 4 sets.

If you are going to say that Nadal choked the 4th set, then someone could argue that Novak should never have let Nadal win the 4th set tiebreak since he was in control of the tiebreak at that point.
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Yes, I agree AO 2012 final should have ended in 4 sets. Though at least Djokovic wasn't twice up a break in that fourth set.
 
clout said:
2009 US Open Finals (could've won the NCYGS; choked away set 2 and 4, and got blown off the court in set 5 against a 20-year old)
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He did not choke. Peak 2009 Del Potro was a forehand monster that had destroyed Soderling and Nadal back to back in 3 sets at the USO. Federer-Del Potro previous match in Grand Slams was the RG 2009 SF, which was a close 5 sets, and Del Potro is better on faster surfaces than clay. Everyone knew that it would be a close as hell final and that Del Potro would have his chances. Del Potro was just unstoppable that USO. Del Potro beat Soderling, Nadal and Federer in what constitutes one of the most impressive Slam runs of all time. It has been over a decade. Time to stop with excuses.

Del Thor-tro.

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Phoenix1983 said:
Child, Nadal's AO heartbreaks have been compensated by his USO gift draws. Therefore no complaining please.
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You don't "balance out" what happens at one slam with another. He earned every one of his USO's and was a break up in multiple AO finals. Stay salty though :D
 
MichaelNadal said:
You don't "balance out" what happens at one slam with another. He earned every one of his USO's and was a break up in multiple AO finals. Stay salty though :D
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OK dude - revealing your fanboyism a bit here (as you should know from my posts, I'm a fan of Nadal, so nothing salty about my posts).

If he earned every one of his USOs, then his opponents earned every one of their AOs. Can't have it both ways.

(My opinion is he has indeed been unlucky at the AO to only be a 1-time champ there, but that his 4 USO titles overstates his ability there. Similar to Novak Djokovic's FO and W record)
 
Phoenix1983 said:
OK dude - revealing your fanboyism a bit here (as you should know from my posts, I'm a fan of Nadal, so nothing salty about my posts).

If he earned every one of his USOs, then his opponents earned every one of their AOs. Can't have it both ways.

(My opinion is he has indeed been unlucky at the AO to only be a 1-time champ there, but that his 4 USO titles overstates his ability there. Similar to Novak Djokovic's FO and W record)
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I didn't say they didn't earn them. This thread is called matches that slipped away, Rafa has had those at the AO, there's no need to over analyze everything people say on here, it's exactly why I rarely post a tennis opinion, everything has to be picked apart endlessly :cautious: 4 USO's doesn't overstate his ability there, with as long as Nadal has been playing tennis 5 HC slams is about right, it's not like he sucks on HC. 2 of the 4 he beat Djokovic in the finals.
 
BladeDaywalker said:
Actually, Novak has had plenty of losses that had a negative impact on his ability to win the Slams race:

2013 French Open Semfinal: He touched the Net at the worst moment possible. That was as flukiest as an event that could have ever happened.

2013 Wimbledon: He is up 4-2 in both the second and third set and Murray managed to break him to win. He was serving to go up 5-2 in both sets. In the second set, he had game point to go up 5-2 but Murray hit an amazing return that Novak couldn't get to. He was in position to win that match.

2013 US Open Final- In the third set, he was up 40-0 when it was tied 4-4. He get the break and is serving for the set. If he won the third set, he would have won the match due to the momentum of the match.

2014 Australian Open: He broke Stan to take a 2-1 lead in the 5th Set and was just coming of a dominant 4th Set that he won 6-3. He was in charge at that point.

2016 US Open Final: He was as fresh and healthy as he could have been heading into the final. With the walkovers and retirements that he got in that tournament, that was going to be the easiest Grand Slam that he could have gotten. He won the first set against Stan and the second and third set could have gone his way when you look at how close it was.

Also, the 2015 French Open Final is interesting. In the 4th set, Novak was up 40-0, 4-3 with three breaks point. He could have won that 4th set and taken it to a 5th set which could have changed that Final. It wasn't like Stan blew him out in the 4th set and he never had a chance to put himself in position to win the match.
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Djokovic certainly had many slip ups in slams in general.
 
Sport said:
He did not choke. Peak 2009 Del Potro was a forehand monster that had destroyed Soderling and Nadal back to back in 3 sets at the USO. Federer-Del Potro previous match in Grand Slams was the RG 2009 SF, which was a close 5 sets, and Del Potro is better on faster surfaces than clay. Everyone knew that it would be a close as hell final and that Del Potro would have his chances. Del Potro was just unstoppable that USO. Del Potro beat Soderling, Nadal and Federer in what constitutes one of the most impressive Slam runs of all time. It has been over a decade. Time to stop with excuses.

Del Thor-tro.

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Doesn’t change the fact that Fed had the second set in the bag.
 
Wimbledon 2019 for Federer is the ultimate disappointment, all Big 3 combined wasted opportunities, this was the worst. Two match points, literally a bump return by Novak on MP #2. One fiery groundstroke to finish it, inside out or DTL. He’d been painting the lines all match. Instead, he hits a passive forehand, goes in behind it, and gets passed. And after that....

I mean he genuinely had it, he’d been hitting amazing ground strokes all match, just one more would do it, but nerves can be a funny thing. Being the GOAT of Wimbledon and losing 3 times in the final to one of your greatest rivals honestly has to hurt.
 
Sport said:
He did not choke. Peak 2009 Del Potro was a forehand monster that had destroyed Soderling and Nadal back to back in 3 sets at the USO. Federer-Del Potro previous match in Grand Slams was the RG 2009 SF, which was a close 5 sets, and Del Potro is better on faster surfaces than clay. Everyone knew that it would be a close as hell final and that Del Potro would have his chances. Del Potro was just unstoppable that USO. Del Potro beat Soderling, Nadal and Federer in what constitutes one of the most impressive Slam runs of all time. It has been over a decade. Time to stop with excuses.

Del Thor-tro.

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Fed did choke set 2 pretty bad. Got way too cute trying to hold serve late

but ya that was an amazing tournament for Juan

shame the slam winning ended there
 
Fabresque said:
Wimbledon 2019 for Federer is the ultimate disappointment, all Big 3 combined wasted opportunities, this was the worst. Two match points, literally a bump return by Novak on MP #2. One fiery groundstroke to finish it, inside out or DTL. He’d been painting the lines all match. Instead, he hits a passive forehand, goes in behind it, and gets passed. And after that....

I mean he genuinely had it, he’d been hitting amazing ground strokes all match, just one more would do it, but nerves can be a funny thing. Being the GOAT of Wimbledon and losing 3 times in the final to one of your greatest rivals honestly has to hurt.
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No doubt W 2019 has to be the biggest one of them all...and quite possibly the biggest of all time.
 
KINGROGER said:
Easily the best tennis player I’ve seen, simply not the most clutch and at an age / tech disadvantage most of his career. Mentally not the strongest either.
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He’s second to none in terms of natural talent but the biggest hole in his career is that he stopped winning prolifically once two other rivals who were on his playing level hit their primes, to go along with all the times he’s let big matches slip away. He had soooo many chances to put this slam race/GOAT debate to bed, and although he’s had his moments post-2008, he hasn’t been able to lock it up.
 
clout said:
He’s second to none in terms of natural talent but the biggest hole in his career is that he stopped winning prolifically once two other rivals who were on his playing level hit their primes, to go along with all the times he’s let big matches slip away. He had soooo many chances to put this slam race/GOAT debate to bed, and although he’s had his moments post-2008, he hasn’t been able to lock it up.
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2009/2011 USO, 2017 Wimbledon seem like the biggest ones, along with countless others.

He should be in the clear as undisputed king of Wimbledon too. Should’ve nailed down 2008 and defended his turf, instead of sucking for 2 sets and having to fight back. Should be winning 2014 or 2019 finals too.
 
KINGROGER said:
2009/2011 USO, 2017 Wimbledon seem like the biggest ones, along with countless others.

He should be in the clear as undisputed king of Wimbledon too. Should’ve nailed down 2008 and defended his turf, instead of sucking for 2 sets and having to fight back. Should be winning 2014 or 2019 finals too.
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He should be glad he won 07 lol
 
Sport said:
Everyone knew that it would be a close as hell final.
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Sorry, this is just more insane BS from you. Nobody thought Del Potro had one chance in hell in that final. I have the match recorded on DVD and McEnroe, Becker, Agassi (guest commentator for the first 15 minutes) and Gilbert all gave Del Potro no chance. Neither did anybody else. Fed was strongly and prohibitively favored to win his sixth straight USO, he had won 40 straight matches at the USO, and yes, it was a choke, considering his opponent, the worst choke in his entire career.

Why you continue to comment on matches you never saw I don't know. Consult the press of the era:

"Del Potro snapped Federer's 40-match U.S. Open winning streak in scoring the biggest Flushing Meadows upset since a 20-year-old Marat Safin stunningly swept Pete Sampras in the 2000 final."

https://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2012/08/top-5-us-open-upsets-no-3-del-potro-d-federer/39134/
 
clout said:
Actually he did blow quite a lot of chances. He may have already passed Fedal in the slam race if he didn't lose in the business end of majors against the likes of Stan (4x), Murray (2x), Thiem, and Nishikori
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I'll give you Nishikori but what's so bad about losing to the others? Murray and Wawrinka are great players and Thiem's been one of the best clay courters in recent years. Sounds like you believe Federer and Nadal are the only guys Djokovic should've lost to in GS tournaments from 2012 onwards, which seems a little unrealistic to me.
 
clout said:
Actually he did blow quite a lot of chances. He may have already passed Fedal in the slam race if he didn't lose in the business end of majors against the likes of Stan (4x), Murray (2x), Thiem, and Nishikori
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He must be cursing having to play Stan in slams. That man alone prevented him bagging 2 extra slams and probably 2 others.

Im not too sure he would’ve beaten Nadal at RG even if he got past Thiem. I think he would’ve put up a way better fight and would certainly have the chance, but he’s still fighting an uphill battle there.
 
KINGROGER said:
Easily the best tennis player I’ve seen, simply not the most clutch and at an age / tech disadvantage most of his career. Mentally not the strongest either.
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Federer tech disadvantage was his own choice and it provided him benefits.
 
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