Djokovic is vulnerable to the slice and controlled, consistent power. Nadal can also hurt Djokovic more when he hits more forehands down the line to the Djokovic forehand side.
Djo fans will be the new, stronger nostalgia merchants. Fed getting usurped even at fandom level.
I hope not. They should not spam the board with hypothetical matches 5 years from now.
To be fair, Rafa won 8 non-clay slams, how many players in history did that? And he beat both Roger and/or Nole to win many of those.
Well Roger definetly had big slumps in 08 and 10, and neither Nole or Federer denied Rafa a single slam in the three years 2008-2010. From 2004-2017, how many years Federer had without Djokodal denying him slams? 2?
Nadal annihilated Federer 10-4 in slam meetings, and Nadal even leads their AO H2H 3-1, despite Federer being a hardcourt specialist.
Don't talk about "history"
Jelena said that, I believe.
Very naive response.
Rafa is literally a single year older than Djokovic. He simply peaked earlier than Djokovic but could not hold up to Djokovic’s longevity. If you want to argue that that single year was harder because Fed was there whereas Djoker on the backend will be facing Prime Alcaraz/Sinner… well ok, whatever.Pretty basic.
Fed won 16 (80%) of his slams before Djoker even won 2 (8%) of his slams.
Fed had 285 weeks at number one (237 straight) before Djoker had a single week at number one.
Fed beat Sampras at WC before Sampras won his last slam. Beat Agassi in a slam final. Djoker played Carlos the Shepherd in slam finals.
Clearly Fed had his prime/peak up till 2010. Djoker did have a longer peak/prime starting in 2011-2023.
Rafa, unfortunately, had to deal with both during their peaks/primes. Dealt with Fed from 05-10 and Djoker from thereafter. Rafa had peak Fed in the beginning and peak Djoker in the end.
Just sayin.
What an insightful, thoughtful, and mature counter argument
Well, so far only Pete, Roger and Nole have more non-clay slams than Rafa, so lets see what the future brings
. On top of that he is 3-1 in HC slams vs Federer and 2-1 vs Nole at USO. Not bad for a "clay specialist".
Yes post homogenization even clay courters can dominate outside.Well, so far only Pete, Roger and Nole have more non-clay slams than Rafa, so lets see what the future brings
If it was that easy the 90s gen should have managed to win more than 2 slams lol.
Well, so far only Pete, Roger and Nole have more non-clay slams than Rafa, so lets see what the future brings
Yep. With a thread title like that you know what you gonna get lol.
Pretty baseless claim there. You just don't like the outcome and statement.
Man you guys are funny. I literally praise all three and make an opinion and you guys are up in arms.
Yup, cant say i didnt contribute lol. Didnt bring any hate though. Well to some people any kind of criticism is considered hate...A lot of original content of course.
Yeah it is.This is surely not a serious question.
Nothing wrong with the title my friend, but titles like that always brings out the haters
Plenty of actual hate threads out there and no word from you, but I get it, you don't like the premise of it, even though it is true.
This is why I rarely do threads. Maybe I just suck at them lol. But I believe every word of it.Nothing wrong with the title my friend, but titles like that always brings out the haters
Fair.
There is nothing lol about it.
No actually it isnt. Lol
I always find it hilariously disingenuous when Rafa detractors act as if him winning 14 RGs and 63 clay titles is some kinda negative....but Djoker or Fed winning 75% of their titles on Hardcourts is just a microcosm of their greatness lol. They pretend clay is just some random circus-like surface that doesn't "really count" (even though clay is as old a playing surface as grass is for tennis). I've learned to stop wasting my time/energy with those kinds of "fans"
That’s why they hate him so much lol
It’s pretty gross to generalize an entire group of people regardless of who they’re fans of.
Why thanks for saying so.What an insightful, thoughtful, and mature counter argument
Obvious sarcasm is obvious.
Big 3 have been playing in Djokovic era. Djokovic era started from 1991 when he played tennis for the first time in his life. He watched Sampras playing Wimbledon on TV and wanted to win Wimbledon. Now his era has witnessed the completion of tennis game by Djokovic after he won the Gold Medal.
I like you Blond Blur. I am a pediatrician as you have heard me say. To suggest that 2 1/2 months of bombing when you are about 10 years old and there was issues going on before that is trivial is naive, IMO. You can take it as an insult, but even if he left to go to Germany after 2 1/2 months of bombing, that was a young age to leave and was an Adverse Childhood Event that would have major effects for a lifetime.
It’s an insult because it’s an insult, lol. There’s no other way where it can be interpreted as anything else in this setting. Call me naive all you want. I think spending 4 years in an elite tennis academy with a former top 10 player and GS finalist training you is going to have a bigger impact on one’s tennis career.
No Halle or Queens.Big 3 have been playing in Djokovic era. Djokovic era started from 1991 when he played tennis for the first time in his life. He watched Sampras playing Wimbledon on TV and wanted to win Wimbledon. Now his era has witnessed the completion of tennis game by Djokovic after he won the Gold Medal.
