Big 3 ratings

[FiReFTW]

What do you think of these ratings when talking peak big 3

Do you agree or would you change them?

Rules:

Max rating for 1 skill is 10
Total of all skills must equal 65

My ratings:


Federer

Serve: 10 ##########

Forehand: 10 ##########

Backhand: 5 #####

BH Slice: 10 ##########

Return: 6 ######

Net game: 9 #########

Mobility: 8 ########

Mental game: 7 #######


Nadal

Serve: 6 ######

Forehand: 10 ##########

Backhand: 8 ########

BH Slice: 6 ######

Return: 8 ########

Net game: 7 #######

Mobility: 10 ##########

Mental game: 10 ##########


Djokovic

Serve: 8 ########

Forehand: 9 #########

Backhand: 9 #########

BH Slice: 7 #######

Return: 10 ##########

Net game: 3 ###

Mobility: 9 #########

Mental game: 10 ##########

 

[-NN-]

Djokovic's net-game is barely worse than Nadal's. It might even be better. At the very least he tends to spend more time up there, and with decent success. And he makes more of the tougher volleys, I'd suggest. Total of all skills must equal 65 though so that changes the game here.

 

[jm1980]

Federer

Serve: 9.5
Forehand: 10
Backhand: 7
BH Slice: 8.5
Return: 6
Net game: 8
Mobility: 8
Mental game: 8

Nadal

Serve: 7
Forehand: 10
Backhand: 8
BH Slice: 6
Return: 8
Net game: 6
Mobility: 10
Mental game: 10

Djokovic

Serve: 8
Forehand: 9
Backhand: 9
BH Slice: 6
Return: 9
Net game: 6
Mobility: 9
Mental game: 9

 

[FiReFTW]

Federer

Serve: 9.5
Forehand: 10
Backhand: 7
BH Slice: 8.5
Return: 6
Net game: 8
Mobility: 8
Mental game: 8

Nadal

Serve: 7
Forehand: 10
Backhand: 8
BH Slice: 6
Return: 8
Net game: 6
Mobility: 10
Mental game: 10

Djokovic

Serve: 8
Forehand: 9
Backhand: 9
BH Slice: 6
Return: 9
Net game: 6
Mobility: 9
Mental game: 9

Thats pretty good!

 

[Tennis_Hands]

Federer's mobility is higher, as is his BH, mental game and return.

Nadal's BH slice is higher, and definitely higher than Djokovic's, his net game is on par with Djokovic (both around 6), his mental game is lower.

Djokovic's FH is lower, net game is higher, mental game is lower.

 

[FiReFTW]

Just to reply for the net game comparison of Djokovic vs Nadal.

I think Nadals volleys are underrated, he is excellent when at the net even if he chooses not to go there often.

And also, since these ratings are less in depth, net game also covers overheads aswell, so Djokovic's rating is justified haha.

 

[Tennis_Hands]

Just to reply for the net game comparison of Djokovic vs Nadal.

I think Nadals volleys are underrated, he is excellent when at the net even if he chooses not to go there often.

And also, since these ratings are less in depth, net game also covers overheads aswell, so Djokovic's rating is justified haha.

Djokovic's overhead has improved considerably.

 

[FiReFTW]

Djokovic's overhead has improved considerably.

 

[jm1980]

He still Djokosmashes every now and again, this shouldn't be news. But if you look at how often this actually happens, it's not even 1 in 10. It just looks catastrophically bad when it does

 

[upchuck]

Federer
Serve: 10
Forehand: 9.5 (at this stage in his career)
Backhand: 7.5
BH Slice: 9.5
Return: 7
Net game: 8
Mobility: 8
Mental game: 8

Nadal
Serve: 7.5
Forehand: 8.5
Backhand: 8
BH Slice: 8
Return: 8
Net game: 8
Mobility: 10
Mental game: 10

Djokovic
Serve: 8
Forehand: 8.5
Backhand: 9
BH Slice: 8
Return: 10
Net game: 5
Mobility: 10
Mental game: 10

 

[lud]

Federer's return was ALWAYS underrated.
He is better returner than Nadal.

 

[upchuck]

Federer's return was ALWAYS underrated.
He is better returner than Nadal.

The statistics suggest Federer isn't a better returner than Nadal on hardcourt, much less overall.

 

[ForehandRF]

Nadal's mental strenght is overrated and that is visible in the rivalry with Djokovic, especially in 2011 and from 2015 onwards.Novak had 2 streaks of 7-0 versus Rafa, so how many times the the Bull has had a mental block versus Ultron ? The last match between them speaks volumes.How about his recent match vs Kyrgios ? People tend to always point out at Federer when it comes to mental strenght issues, but let me tell you something, Nadal is not that far in this departmanet.Giving Federer a 7 and to Nadal a 10 can't be more further from the truth because they are actually much closer here.Nadal deserves an 8 IMO.Only Djokovic might deserve a 10 although we remember his 2012-2014 period when his mental strenght wasn't as good.

 

[ForehandRF]

Federer's return was ALWAYS underrated.
He is better returner than Nadal.

Federer's backhand return was a hole in his game for much of his career.I think that chipping backhand returns is the main reason for his inability to beat Nadal at the French at least 1 time, that is probably the main key in their rivalry overall.Ever since 2007 or so I was hoping that Federer will understand that he should hit the backhand.I would go even further and say that the backhand return is one of the main causes of his famous breakpoint conversion rate.Maybe his 90 square inch racket didn't help him or maybe he was not confident enough, this can be debatable.

IMO, Rafa has a better return from the backhand, but Federer's return is better from the forehand or at least it was back in his peak years.

 

[upchuck]

Nadal's mental strenght is overrated and that is visible in the rivalry with Djokovic, especially in 2011 and from 2015 onwards.Novak had 2 streaks of 7-0 versus Rafa, so how many times the the Bull has had a mental block versus Ultron ? The last match between them speaks volumes.How about his recent match vs Kyrgios ? People tend to always point out at Federer when it comes to mental strenght issues, but let me tell you something, Nadal is not that far in this departmanet.Giving Federer a 7 and to Nadal a 10 can't be more further from the truth because they are actually much closer here.Nadal deserves an 8 IMO.Only Djokovic might deserve a 10 although we remember his 2012-2014 period when his mental strenght wasn't as good.

You have to take into consideration the entirety of their careers, not a few matches. Nadal's losses against Djokovic is because Djokovic is a better player and is also very strong mentally.