Big 3 records that will never be broken

[mike danny]

Federer's 237 consecutive weeks at no.1.

Federer's 5 consecutive titles at 2 different GS.

Federer's 8+ Wimb titles

Federer's 5+ titles at 3 different GS's.

Federer's 11 GS titles in 4 years

Nadal's 10+ RG titles

Nadal's triple la Decima

Djokovic's 6+ AO titles

Djokovic's 3 AO-IW-Miami triples

Are there others I have missed?

 

[Red Rick]

I like how we can predict the future with 100% certainty here.

 

[Alchemy-Z]

I think Nadal's at least 1 slam a year for 10 years will stand - seems like tennis (like many sports) has moved away from very young champions

 

[tennisaddict]

Federer' 19+ major count

Fed's 302 weeks at No 1

Nadal's 65% titles on a single surface

 

[Backspin1183]

Federer's 237 consecutive weeks at no.1.

- I think it will be broken in years to come.

Federer's 5 consecutive titles at 2 different GS.

- Will be very tough but still a breakable record.

Federer's 8+ Wimb titles

- May not stand the test of time.

Federer's 5+ titles at 3 different GS's.

- This record might never be broken.

Federer's 11 GS titles in 4 years

- Hugely impressive achievement. Will need a very dominant player in a weak era to better this record of Roger's. In other words, very unlikely to be broken.

Nadal's 10+ RG titles

- Will probably stand the test of time as it's likely to be even more than 10.

Nadal's triple la Decima

- Probably won't be broken unless someone has the dominance and longevity to dominate three different tournaments.

Djokovic's 6+ AO titles

- Not unbreakable record.

Djokovic's 3 AO-IW-Miami triples

- More difficult record to break. Possible but might not be broken in years to come.

Are there others I have missed?

There.

 

[Backspin1183]

Federer' 19+ major count

Fed's 302 weeks at No 1

Nadal's 65% titles on a single surface

Don't forget Federer's impressive record against Nadal and Djokovic in Grand Slams. No other GOAT candidate is going to have a more impressive record against two all time greats.

 

[mike danny]

There.

Why do you think 237 consecutive weeks will be broken? A player will need to stay at no.1 for more than 4 and a half years to do it. Don't see it getting broken. Even Djokovic couldn't hold the top spot for more than 120 consecutive weeks or so.

And why wouldn't Fed's Wimb record stand the test of time?

 

[tennisaddict]

Don't forget Federer's impressive record against Nadal and Djokovic in Grand Slams. No other GOAT candidate is going to have a more impressive record against two all time greats.

The only relevant metric is titles

Add each one of Rafa's early round losses and sabbatical as +1 to Fed in the h2h if you want to play the h2h game

 

[mike danny]

Don't forget Federer's impressive record against Nadal and Djokovic in Grand Slams. No other GOAT candidate is going to have a more impressive record against two all time greats.

Well, until we see another GOAT candidate dominate 2 other much younger GOAT candidates, this is irrelevant.

 

[BlueClayGOAT]

Missed a big one here: Fed's insane streaks of 10 consecutive slam finals (and 18 of 19 slam finals from 2005 Wimbledon to the 2010 AO), 23 consecutive semis, and 36 consecutive quarters.

 

[Backspin1183]

Why do you think 237 consecutive weeks will be broken? A player will need to stay at no.1 for more than 4 and a half years to do it. Don't see it getting broken. Even Djokovic couldn't hold the top spot for more than 120 consecutive weeks or so.

And why wouldn't Fed's Wimb record stand the test of time?

Pete's record weeks at #1 didn't stay long. What makes you think Federer's will never be broken? It won't be Djokovic or Nadal but a future dominant player would break it in next 10-20 years. Such records are set to be broken.

I think 8 Wimbledon titles isn't enough to stand the test of time. A Federer like player in future will be able to better 8 unless Federer adds more.

 

[Backspin1183]

Well, until we see another GOAT candidate dominate 2 other much younger GOAT candidates, this irrelevant.

Mike, that was a troll response to a salty poster.

 

[ibbi]

I think it's pretty bold to think that a bunch of records all accumulated in a 14 year window are never going to be broken. Tennis has changed to the point where winning across all surfaces has become easier than ever before, and I doubt these are all safe. Djokovic isn't even the first person to win 6 Australian Opens!

Still, I think a 102-2 best of 5 set record on any surface isn't something we're likely to see for a good long while.

 

[Backspin1183]

The only relevant metric is titles

Add each one of Rafa's early round losses and sabbatical as +1 to Fed in the h2h if you want to play the h2h game

The stats don't care about matches that never happened. When they actually did meet in Grand Slams, Federer was able to....Djokovic and Nadal.

 

[mike danny]

Pete's record weeks at #1 didn't stay long. What makes you think Federer's will never be broken? It won't be Djokovic or Nadal but a future dominant player would break it in next 10-20 years. Such records are set to be broken.

I think 8 Wimbledon titles isn't enough to stand the test of time. A Federer like player in future will be able to better 8 unless Federer adds more.

Pete never stayed at no.1 continuously as long Fed. I was talking about Fed's best consecutive streak, not his total number of weeks. The latter may even be broken by Djokovic (although a tall order at 30+), so that's why I did not mention it.

 

[Backspin1183]

Pete never stayed at no.1 continuously as long Fed. I was talking about Fed's best consecutive streak, not his total number of weeks. The latter may even be broken by Djokovic (although a tall order at 30+), so that's why I did not mention it.

Ok. I seem to have misunderstood. In that case, I agree it's unlikely to be broken.

 

[Spider]

Nadal winning at least 1 slam title for 10 straight years would be impossible to break.

Plus his RG title dominance will never ever be repeated at any single slam.

Fed 237 consecutive weeks looks impressive but can be broken in future.

 

[User123]

Nadal winning at least 1 slam for 10 years in a row.

 

[Druss]

Federer's 23 consecutive GS semis.

 

[Tshooter]

Federer's 237 consecutive weeks at no.1.

Federer's 5 consecutive titles at 2 different GS.

Federer's 8+ Wimb titles

Federer's 5+ titles at 3 different GS's.

Federer's 11 GS titles in 4 years

Nadal's 10+ RG titles

Nadal's triple la Decima

Djokovic's 6+ AO titles

Djokovic's 3 AO-IW-Miami triples

Are there others I have missed?

Those can all be broken (as can Pete’s 6 yrs ending #1.). What will not be broken is Jimbo winning USO on three different surfaces !

 

[lud]

Djokovic 2x7win streak vs Nadal(5 matches on clay!)

Federer losing Us Open semis twice in a row after he hold 2 match points

Roddick hold his serve 37 times without being break, and yet he lost that final

 

[MatsPhilander]

Records are meant to be broken. Doubt anybody really thought that anyone would equal or go past Sampras in 2002.

 

[BlueClayGOAT]

Nadal winning at least 1 slam for 10 years in a row.

This record- as mighty as it is- could arguably be matched or broken. Fed, Pete, and Borg all had streaks of 8 years. Fed (2002-12, excluding 2011) and Pete (1993-2002, excluding 2001) both achieved 9 major-winning years out of 10 as well.

It is certainly not as unreachable as some of the other records.

Rafa's 10 RG titles and his 102-2 best-of-5 clay record are far more daunting records than the 10 years slam wins streak.

 

[User123]

Djokovic 2x7win streak vs Nadal(5 matches on clay!)

Federer losing Us Open semis twice in a row after he hold 2 match points

Roddick hold his serve 37 times without being break, and yet he lost that final

3 of these 5 matches on clay were not really impressive because in 2014-2016 it wasn't anything close to real Nadal.

 

[User123]

This record- as mighty as it is- could arguably be matched or broken. Fed, Pete, and Borg all had streaks of 8 years. Fed (2002-12, excluding 2011) and Pete (1993-2002, excluding 2001) both achieved 9 major-winning years out of 10 as well.

It is certainly not as unreachable as some of the other records.

Rafa's 10 RG titles and his 102-2 best-of-5 clay record are far more daunting records than the 10 years slam wins streak.

Well, even players like Federer, Djokovic, Sampras failed to do that.

 

[BlueClayGOAT]

Nadal winning at least 1 slam title for 10 straight years would be impossible to break.

Plus his RG title dominance will never ever be repeated at any single slam.

Fed 237 consecutive weeks looks impressive but can be broken in future.

The 10 years slam winning streak is incredible, but has been approached fairly closely by Pete, Fed, and Borg.

Rafa's RG dominance will never be repeated in our lifetimes.

Fed's 237 consecutive weeks at #1 is probably safe for the foreseeable future as well- next best is Connors with 160, which is a good 33% lesser. It would take a GOAT player putting together an incredible few years in a row, winning 2 or 3 slams per season as a rule- like Fed's 2004-07- for this to be broken. Very unlikely.

 

[BlueClayGOAT]

Well, even players like Federer, Djokovic, Sampras failed to do that.

True, as I said, it's an impressive, incredible streak which might never be outdone, but we're talking unreachable, unbreakable records here. It's not in the same league as some of the other records on here.

 

[mike danny]

Pete's record weeks at #1 didn't stay long. What makes you think Federer's will never be broken? It won't be Djokovic or Nadal but a future dominant player would break it in next 10-20 years. Such records are set to be broken.

I think 8 Wimbledon titles isn't enough to stand the test of time. A Federer like player in future will be able to better 8 unless Federer adds more.

Here's the thing. Federer-like players don't just grow in trees.

Nadal and Djokovic, players of equal ability as Fed, still have way less Wimb titles combined than Fed.

I'm willing to bet Fed's Wimb record will be safe.

 

[mike danny]

There.

Also, 5 consecutive titles at 2 different GS will be impossible to break. The closest anyone has ever come was Borg, with 4 consecutive titles at RG and 5 consecutive titles at Wimb. Other guys like Sampras and Djokovic never managed 5 in a row at any major and Nadal never even managed 2 in a row at a second major.

 

[TheAssassin]

Djokovic's 16950 points, 4 consecutive WTFs and 18 consecutive Top Tier final appearances will be tough to break.

Federer's 24 consecutive final matches won is also pretty sick, can't see anyone touching that any time soon.

 

[mike danny]

Records are meant to be broken. Doubt anybody really thought that anyone would equal or go past Sampras in 2002.

Some records are meant to stay the test of time though. For example, Laver's CYGS still hasn't been equalled, let alone surpassed. And 48 years have passed since then.

 

[mike danny]

Djokovic's 16950 points, 4 consecutive WTFs and 18 consecutive Top Tier final appearances will be tough to break.

Federer's 24 consecutive final matches won is also pretty sick, can't see anyone touching that any time soon.

Both very good choices. Djokovic was just sick from AO 2015 until Dubai 2016. Federer too was sick not losing a final for 2 years.

Karlovoc had no idea at 2015 Doha how big of an achievement beating Djokovic before a final actually was

 

[AnOctorokForDinner]

Djokovic's 16950 points, 4 consecutive WTFs and 18 consecutive Top Tier final appearances will be tough to break.

Federer's 24 consecutive final matches won is also pretty sick, can't see anyone touching that any time soon.

The points record should be measured in % of max points possible to have for one player, in order to be able to compare eras. (Djokovic leads the stat anyway, so it's more a point regarding future challengers.)

 

[MatsPhilander]

Some records are meant to stay the test of time though. For example, Laver's CYGS still hasn't been equalled, let alone surpassed. And 48 years have passed since then.

How big was the tour back then it terms of tournaments per year, quality of opponent, number of players per tournament, physicality? I assume it was a very different sport & is pretty much impossible for modern players to do as a result.

 

[mike danny]

How big was the tour back then it terms of tournaments per year, quality of opponent, number of players per tournament, physicality? I assume it was a very different sport & is pretty much impossible for modern players to do as a result.

I don't know exactly, but it was still part of the Open Era. So it was an amazing achievement.

Djokovic needed to win the CYGS in 2015, as well as the AO again in 2016 to surpass it. Federer needed to win the FO 2006 final to surpass it, assuming everything else stayed the same.

 

[MichaelNadal]

No one is winning 11 French Opens lol.

 

[mike danny]

No one is winning 11 French Opens lol.

Yeah, that one is pretty safe.

No one is winning 11 titles at any GS,not just the FO.

 

[mike danny]

I might also add Federer winning 10 dofferent events at least 5 times each: AO, Dubai, IW, Hamburg/Madrid, Halle, Wimb, Cincy, USO, Basel, WTF.

And yes, I consider Hamburg and Madrid as one tournament: the 3rd clay masters after MC and Rome.

 

[User123]

Yeah, that one is pretty safe.

No one is winning 11 titles at any GS,not just the FO.

Federer could have 11 Wimbledon titles, but he missed some very good chances, like 2016 semifinal against Raonic. I'm pretty sure he would have destroyed Murray in the final.

 

[Deleted member 77403]

Federer 23 straight semis will likely last test of time, that is six years of making the semi across all surfaces without missing a slam, beating players from multiple generations, avoiding upsets, handling red lining opponents. To do something like that is just absurd. Doubt we will see it again.

 

[MatsPhilander]

No one is winning 11 French Opens lol.

It is hard to see Nadal not ending up with 15 plus there, so the bar is likely to be set even higher.

 

[MatsPhilander]

Federer 23 straight semis will likely last test of time, that is six years of making the semi across all surfaces without missing a slam, beating players from multiple generations, avoiding upsets, handling red lining opponents. To do something like that is just absurd. Doubt we will see it again.

If Tomic gets on a run it might be possible.

 

[Deleted member 77403]

If Tomic gets on a run it might be possible.

Maybe if he has a manager like Bobby Heenan, otherwise I think the record is safe.

 

[MichaelNadal]

It is hard to see Nadal not ending up with 15 plus there, so the bar is likely to be set even higher.

Eww.

 

[heninfan99]

Federer' 19+ major count

Don't jinx it

 

[BlueClayGOAT]

It is hard to see Nadal not ending up with 15 plus there, so the bar is likely to be set even higher.

Alright, calm down now.
Not sure if trolling.

 

[User123]

Federer 23 straight semis will likely last test of time, that is six years of making the semi across all surfaces without missing a slam, beating players from multiple generations, avoiding upsets, handling red lining opponents. To do something like that is just absurd. Doubt we will see it again.

Lol, I remember Eugenie Bouchard in 2014 said that she wants to beat that one. Now I guess she should be worried of not getting a streak of 23 first round losses in slams in a row.

 

[MatsPhilander]

Maybe if he has a manager like Bobby Heenan, otherwise I think the record is safe.

 

[King No1e]

Federer's 237 consecutive weeks at no.1.
That will 100 pct stand the test of time, no player has ever been as dominant as Federer was in his peak

Federer's 5 consecutive titles at 2 different GS.
That's possible, considering that his contemporaries, Nadal and Djokovic are such all round players. Nadal has 4 straight RG and 5 straight Wimby finals, plus Borg came close too.

Federer's 8+ Wimb titles
This is unlikely to survive forever. He's still just 1 ahead of Pistol Pete, so it's possible that another guy could come along and win a ton of Wimbledon titles.

Federer's 5+ titles at 3 different GS's.
Absolutely impeccable record. Unlikely to be broken, this goes back to the point that no player has ever dominated like Federer.

Federer's 11 GS titles in 4 years
Nadal got 10 in 5 years and Sampras came close, so again not out of reach for a dominant player in a weak era

Nadal's 10+ RG titles
Yeah. No chance of being broken

Nadal's triple la Decima
No chance either. The longevity and lasting dominance is unparalleled.

Djokovic's 6+ AO titles
6+ is misleading. Roy Emerson already has 6. But the Djoker is just adding to his 6 and by the end might get a La Decima of his own in Melbourne. That will not be broken.

Djokovic's 3 AO-IW-Miami triples
Wait, doesn't the Federer already have that?

Are there others I have missed?
Nadal's "Decade of Domination" 10 years with a Grand Slam. Very unlikely to be broken.
Djokovic 4 consecutive World Championship titles. Could be broken by a crazy-good indoor player (ex. Federer-style game) but incredible achievement for Djokovic who isn't even a fast court guy.
Nadal-Djokovic 50 matches. Epic rivalry, played greatest match ever at Australian Open 2012, unlikely to be broken.

 

[MatsPhilander]

Alright, calm down now.
Not sure if trolling.

If he can stay fit then who is stopping him? Novak seems to be the only guy with a shot & he has to play 100% & hope Nadal dips.