Big Ace vs. Cyber Power

300Gkid

Professional
Ok, well i have been doing a little research and it appears that cyberpower and big ace are pretty similar strings, a soft, powerful poly. I am coming from PHT hybrid and am looking for a softer more powerful string. Lol, so yeah which do you guys like better, for maaayyybe a full job (gonna give it a shot) and if not, in a hybrid.
 

Stan

Professional
The CyberPower is superior to the Big Ace. In general you will find Topspin products outperform Pro Supex, although for reasons that are hard to imagine the Pro Supex forces tend to make a lot of noise on these boards. Protennis will be chiming in soon. :)
 

pow

Hall of Fame
The CyberPower is superior to the Big Ace. In general you will find Topspin products outperform Pro Supex, although for reasons that are hard to imagine the Pro Supex forces tend to make a lot of noise on these boards. Protennis will be chiming in soon. :)
Just curious, what do you mean by outperform, it's a very general term to compare to strings with each other.
 

Stan

Professional
They hold playing properties longer, are livelier, offer a more consistent stringbed and produce a less plastic-like feel.
 

PROTENNIS63

Hall of Fame
Hi Stan!

Hope you feel OK. To let you know, everyone is entitled to their opinion. If you feel Topspin outperform Pro Supex, good for you. Do you get paid for your opinion? :wink:

Topspin is an excellent product and yes they are on top there with the best strings. And Cyber Power IMO, is very different to Big Ace. Much more powerful. If anything, I'll say Cyber Flash is more similar to Big Ace. Only major difference is the stiffness but it is not too much.

See you on the court. :razz:
 

Pusher

Professional
Hi Stan!

Hope you feel OK. To let you know, everyone is entitled to their opinion. If you feel Topspin outperform Pro Supex, good for you. Do you get paid for your opinion? :wink:

Topspin is an excellent product and yes they are on top there with the best strings. And Cyber Power IMO, is very different to Big Ace. Much more powerful. If anything, I'll say Cyber Flash is more similar to Big Ace. Only major difference is the stiffness but it is not too much.

See you on the court. :razz:
PT, Sounds like you've tried both.

Have you seen any difference in durability between the two Topspin strings and Big Ace?

The BA 1.25 is lasting only about one match-I'm either going to have to go to the 1.28 or look elsewhere.

Hey Stan,
Your comments on Pro Supex may be correct but they sound more like marketing hype than actual court experience. Can you share any experience with these two brands? I really am interested.

Thanks
 

PROTENNIS63

Hall of Fame
All 3 strings (Cyber Flash, Cyber Power, Big Ace) have rather the same durability. BUT, I have popped Cyber Flash on shanks before. Never Cyber Power or Big Ace. You can let your son try Cyber Flash or 1.28 Big Ace.
 

nickb

Banned
After using CyberPower and Big Ace for a while now I think that CyberPower is the better string. I know what stan means about some pro supex feeling a bit plastic. Ive found that CyberPower remains playable longer than Big Ace, has more feel, more pop and is more comfortable. Cyberflash is also a great string and those that use Luxilon strings will love it.

Pusher:

You could prob string some 16g CyberPower up for your son and it would be durable yet still soft/playable and good on the arm.


Nick
 

PED

Legend
I don't think it's a issue of better or worse when dealing with cyber power vs BA: it's more of an issue of personal taste. When it comes to durability, I think that Pusher's son is not going to have that much more luck with cyber power vs BA. It sounds like he really pounds the ball and durability is always going to be an issue. As PT 63 mentioned, try out the 1.28 BA, I used to use that and it's a little bit stiffer and very durable. I think alot of preference also might have to do with style of play. Nick, didn't you mention earlier that you really like the play of CP at the net? They are both great strings and I think you could be happy with either one of them :)
 

hoodjem

G.O.A.T.
PED,

How's that Titan gut working for you?

It's a good price; is the playability up there with other guts?
 

PROTENNIS63

Hall of Fame
I don't think it's a issue of better or worse when dealing with cyber power vs BA: it's more of an issue of personal taste. When it comes to durability, I think that Pusher's son is not going to have that much more luck with cyber power vs BA. It sounds like he really pounds the ball and durability is always going to be an issue. As PT 63 mentioned, try out the 1.28 BA, I used to use that and it's a little bit stiffer and very durable. I think alot of preference also might have to do with style of play. Nick, didn't you mention earlier that you really like the play of CP at the net? They are both great strings and I think you could be happy with either one of them :)
I do agree with you. People who want more power, will go with Cyber Power. Those who want a little more control and "color" will go with Big Ace. It is all a matter of personal preference.
 

Pusher

Professional
After using CyberPower and Big Ace for a while now I think that CyberPower is the better string. I know what stan means about some pro supex feeling a bit plastic. Ive found that CyberPower remains playable longer than Big Ace, has more feel, more pop and is more comfortable. Cyberflash is also a great string and those that use Luxilon strings will love it.

Pusher:

You could prob string some 16g CyberPower up for your son and it would be durable yet still soft/playable and good on the arm.


Nick
I really hate to switch from the Big Ace, it has served my son well for quite awhile. But at his tournament this weekend the 1.25 broke during the warmup after 1 match. Thats not acceptable.

Topspin is certainly a good brand and I have strung some for a few juniors. It has a quality feel to it and doesn't seem to kink quite as much as the BA. I'll give the TS a try shortly. Thanks for the help.
 

Kcraig

Professional
I'll chime in--I have used Cyberpower full 1.25, 1.25/Max Touch and also hybrided 1.20 w/ Titan and all at pretty low tensions--52, 52/55. I have had some experience with Big Ace, but my nod is to Cyberpower. Speaking from someone who has had some arm issues in the past, CP is a great soft, comfy, powerful poly that really plays like a firm syn gut. I always feared the full job polys after my arm issues--but after switching to the flexy Tour Diablo MP, no issues at all with CP!! IMO--it is very similar to Cyberflash with more feel,touch, and certainly more pop!! Very good string IMO. However, Big Ace does come in multiple color options which is always nice:)
 

Pusher

Professional
I don't think it's a issue of better or worse when dealing with cyber power vs BA: it's more of an issue of personal taste. When it comes to durability, I think that Pusher's son is not going to have that much more luck with cyber power vs BA. It sounds like he really pounds the ball and durability is always going to be an issue. As PT 63 mentioned, try out the 1.28 BA, I used to use that and it's a little bit stiffer and very durable. I think alot of preference also might have to do with style of play. Nick, didn't you mention earlier that you really like the play of CP at the net? They are both great strings and I think you could be happy with either one of them :)
I suspect you are right. My son is pounding the ball but even more telling is his competetion is also pounding it. I would guess the 1.28 BA would work fine-as would the Cyberflash/power.

However, being a notorious impulse buyer I took the plunge and bought a mini-reel of BB ALU Power. I hope it is really crappy string because if it is all its supposed to be I will end up paying 5 times the cost of BA. It is really is kind of foolish because once he gets to college this fall he will be using a fairly mediocre Kirschbaum string the team gets for free-Spikey I think. Of course if he gets addicted to the ALU Power then I'm stuck buying string even for his college play.

Thanks for your comments.
 

Pusher

Professional
I'll chime in--I have used Cyberpower full 1.25, 1.25/Max Touch and also hybrided 1.20 w/ Titan and all at pretty low tensions--52, 52/55. I have had some experience with Big Ace, but my nod is to Cyberpower. Speaking from someone who has had some arm issues in the past, CP is a great soft, comfy, powerful poly that really plays like a firm syn gut. I always feared the full job polys after my arm issues--but after switching to the flexy Tour Diablo MP, no issues at all with CP!! IMO--it is very similar to Cyberflash with more feel,touch, and certainly more pop!! Very good string IMO. However, Big Ace does come in multiple color options which is always nice:)
Call me shallow but the color options initially lured me to try BA. That and the price and service I continue getting from the retailer.

I'm hoping the ALU Power won't work out so I can try a few sets of the Cyberflash/Power. They are actually cheaper (wholesale) than the BA.
 

PED

Legend
I'm hoping the ALU Power won't work out so I can try a few sets of the Cyberflash/Power. They are actually cheaper (wholesale) than the BA.
Pusher, I am hoping the same thing! My son seems dead set on going to alu rough and it's working for him but he's not a string breaker so that helps. I still have a 1/2 set of CP I want to try at my normal tension. Mine was strung at 57 instead of 54 when I tried it before and I think that might have been some of the reason I did not really start liking it until a week or so into my playtest ;)
 

Pusher

Professional
Pusher, I am hoping the same thing! My son seems dead set on going to alu rough and it's working for him but he's not a string breaker so that helps. I still have a 1/2 set of CP I want to try at my normal tension. Mine was strung at 57 instead of 54 when I tried it before and I think that might have been some of the reason I did not really start liking it until a week or so into my playtest ;)
Whats your recommendation on tension when comparing the BA1.25 to ALU Power? I'm thinking I need to go down a couple of pounds on the ALU.

I don't think Junior really cares what string he uses-although he does prefer a full poly stringbed. I'm the one that obsesses over equipment issues.
 

PED

Legend
NickB recommended to me that I drop it 2 pounds. I think he's right but mine was strung on a constant pull machine so I really ended up with 55 instead of 53. I've since rectified that stringing issue ;) but 2 pounds lower should do it. I've got it at 50 on the mains right now which is WAY too low for a hammer like your son, but I like a little bit of help for myself and the low tension really helped both the action and the drive I was getting on the ball.
 

Pusher

Professional
NickB recommended to me that I drop it 2 pounds. I think he's right but mine was strung on a constant pull machine so I really ended up with 55 instead of 53. I've since rectified that stringing issue ;) but 2 pounds lower should do it. I've got it at 50 on the mains right now which is WAY too low for a hammer like your son, but I like a little bit of help for myself and the low tension really helped both the action and the drive I was getting on the ball.
Thanks.

I don't think thats way low. I've strung in the low 50's before without any major problems.

I'll probably move the tension from 57 down to 55.
 

Kcraig

Professional
Call me shallow but the color options initially lured me to try BA. That and the price and service I continue getting from the retailer.

I'm hoping the ALU Power won't work out so I can try a few sets of the Cyberflash/Power. They are actually cheaper (wholesale) than the BA.
Believe me--the color options are a HUGE plus. I am planning to try the BA 1.17mm soon as a full job. Yeah and you can NOT beat service from the Supex people--they are great!!
 

Pusher

Professional
Believe me--the color options are a HUGE plus. I am planning to try the BA 1.17mm soon as a full job. Yeah and you can NOT beat service from the Supex people--they are great!!
Yep.

Plus I like getting the stuff I order within 2 days. No offense to TW but not having an east coast distribution center really hurts their customer service. I also like the free goodies they sometimes put in the package.

I get tired of seeing the UPS tracking as it makes about 6 stops before it ever gets delivered (left Cerritos day 1, arrived Dallas day 2, left Dallas day 3, arrived W Columbia day 4, etc).
 

Kcraig

Professional
Yep.

Plus I like getting the stuff I order within 2 days. No offense to TW but not having an east coast distribution center really hurts their customer service. I also like the free goodies they sometimes put in the package.

I get tired of seeing the UPS tracking as it makes about 6 stops before it ever gets delivered (left Cerritos day 1, arrived Dallas day 2, left Dallas day 3, arrived W Columbia day 4, etc).
MY THOUGHTS DEAD ON!!!! Great minds do think alike. Hell, my problem is, when I order something and it takes 4+ days, I'll probably have changed my mind by the time it finally arrives--:cry:
 

Pusher

Professional
MY THOUGHTS DEAD ON!!!! Great minds do think alike. Hell, my problem is, when I order something and it takes 4+ days, I'll probably have changed my mind by the time it finally arrives--:cry:
I don't live in the big city like you.

Jethro delivers my stuff when he gets around to it. He rings my doorbell and proudly announces he has my weedwacker string. I usually compliment him on the faded tiger paw on his cheek. ;)
 

Kcraig

Professional
I don't live in the big city like you.

Jethro delivers my stuff when he gets around to it. He rings my doorbell and proudly announces he has my weedwacker string. I usually compliment him on the faded tiger paw on his cheek. ;)
LOL!!!!!!!!!!:lol: That was a good one!!
 

Pusher

Professional
Pusher,

If you want to try a few sets of the CF, I'll happily provide you with some.
I know, you've offered before and I appreciate it. I may take you up on that offer next time I see you.

Sorry about the slam on the Tigers-I couldn't help it.
 

nickb

Banned
Pusher:

Buying ALU Power for your son is dangerous!

It really is amazing for the first 3 hours (which is when you son will break it from how you described his game) and I think he will love it.

I feel sorry for you...:)


Nick
 

nickb

Banned
Nick, how is the durability of the NXT?
Not too good for me really...im getting a few matches out of it right now but nothing more. I have a load of sets to use up so dont mind it breaking so often right now...it plays really well with the stiffer head RIP control cross.

Nick
 

Pusher

Professional
Pusher:

Buying ALU Power for your son is dangerous!

It really is amazing for the first 3 hours (which is when you son will break it from how you described his game) and I think he will love it.

I feel sorry for you...:)


Nick
Nick, if it lasts 3 hours then I would be excited. Thats about 3 times longer than BA.

But I kinda already know what he will say. "its awright" is about as much feedback as I will get.
 

nickb

Banned
Nick, if it lasts 3 hours then I would be excited. Thats about 3 times longer than BA.

But I kinda already know what he will say. "its awright" is about as much feedback as I will get.
He is only getting 1 hour from Big Ace!!??

Is that the 1.25?

I think Luxilon ALU Power will last longer but not sure how much....sounds like you have no choice in going to a thicker string.

Nick
 

Pusher

Professional
He is only getting 1 hour from Big Ace!!??

Is that the 1.25?

I think Luxilon ALU Power will last longer but not sure how much....sounds like you have no choice in going to a thicker string.

Nick
Ok, its probably more like an hour and a half.

My dilema is do I go with a thicker string which may not perform as well or do I buy more racquets? In the last tournament he broke strings on 3 N6.1's and ended up playing a doubles match with an old Nblade I happened to throw in his racquet bag. Its hard to break a string with that Nblade, it has about 25 mains and flex rating in the low 50's.

Anyhow, I confiscate the on site stringing machine, not realizing its much more complicated than my trusty SP electric, and I spend 2 hours stringing frames. But thats off topic. Yeah, thicker strings are probably in my future.
 

nickb

Banned
Ok, its probably more like an hour and a half.

My dilema is do I go with a thicker string which may not perform as well or do I buy more racquets? In the last tournament he broke strings on 3 N6.1's and ended up playing a doubles match with an old Nblade I happened to throw in his racquet bag. Its hard to break a string with that Nblade, it has about 25 mains and flex rating in the low 50's.

Anyhow, I confiscate the on site stringing machine, not realizing its much more complicated than my trusty SP electric, and I spend 2 hours stringing frames. But thats off topic. Yeah, thicker strings are probably in my future.
You must spend alot of your time stringing...the open pattern of the nsix-one 95s must also contribute to the early breakage. The thicker string should perform fine...there are many pro's using 1.30g polys.

How many rackets does he have?

Nick
 

Pusher

Professional
You must spend alot of your time stringing...the open pattern of the nsix-one 95s must also contribute to the early breakage. The thicker string should perform fine...there are many pro's using 1.30g polys.

How many rackets does he have?

Nick
Not that much time. He's not playing a hard physical match every day and his string can last as long as 2-3 hours hitting fed balls or practicing serves. I'll string maybe 6 frames a week.

Yeah, the N6.1 is a world champ string eater. If I was smarter It would go with the 18x20 version.

He has about 8-10 racquets. Though only 4 of them are N6.1's. The rest are milestones in his tennis career which I can't bring myself to sell to someone.
 

nickb

Banned
Not that much time. He's not playing a hard physical match every day and his string can last as long as 2-3 hours hitting fed balls or practicing serves. I'll string maybe 6 frames a week.

Yeah, the N6.1 is a world champ string eater. If I was smarter It would go with the 18x20 version.

He has about 8-10 racquets. Though only 4 of them are N6.1's. The rest are milestones in his tennis career which I can't bring myself to sell to someone.
Ah so not too bad then..

Any luck in finding him a new frame?


Nick
 

PROTENNIS63

Hall of Fame
Pusher, let your son try the BB11. I switched to it from the K Factor six-one 95 18x20. Plays great. Nice stick. Pattern is 18x20 so strings won't break as fast.
 

Pusher

Professional
Pusher, let your son try the BB11. I switched to it from the K Factor six-one 95 18x20. Plays great. Nice stick. Pattern is 18x20 so strings won't break as fast.
Thats an excellent suggestion PT.

The BB11 sounds like an very nice frame.

But I've got too much invested in N6.1's. A couple of months ago I should have demoed the BB11 but instead I demoed the K90. I actually thought about the BB11 but I concluded that if I was to go to a 18x20 stringbed I would take a look at the N6.1 or even the K6.1 in that configuration. I probably made a mistake not looking outside of the Wilson brand.

Where were you when I needed that advice? :cry:
(just kidding)
 

CliffH

Rookie
Hi, I am a newcomer to polys. Years ago, my shoulder got sore with my first set of Alu rough at 65# and I was crippled for 2 months. Could not believe it. I switched to VS17/tnt2 in a hybrid in my N90, now K90 and have been good for a few years.

After getting killed by a bunch of guys using poly hybrids and starting to feel the pinch in my wallet for 17g VS gut at 2 to 3 string jobs every 2 weeks, I recently starting retrying polys. My elbow got touchie sore with cyber flash and I tried Big Ace Micro. Loved it, but still sore elbow. Hybriding with a bunch of strings, I still played the best with a Big Ace micro hybrid with Gamma Astericks16 @ 60# for over 40 men's serve and volley, but have to take care of the sore elbow.

I tried stringing lower but lost too much control. The Cyber Flash sure has a great POP but I live and die by the half volley and angled topspin and not baseline bashing. The Big ace is lower powered and in the micro is more spinny.

I have some cyber power to try and TW recommended some softer polyfibre TCS which I have but I might try some softer hybrid string
for a cross string as I played really good with the Big Ace Micro.
Also, the supex guys are great :) Hope this helps someone, cliff
 

Pusher

Professional
Hi, I am a newcomer to polys. Years ago, my shoulder got sore with my first set of Alu rough at 65# and I was crippled for 2 months. Could not believe it. I switched to VS17/tnt2 in a hybrid in my N90, now K90 and have been good for a few years.

After getting killed by a bunch of guys using poly hybrids and starting to feel the pinch in my wallet for 17g VS gut at 2 to 3 string jobs every 2 weeks, I recently starting retrying polys. My elbow got touchie sore with cyber flash and I tried Big Ace Micro. Loved it, but still sore elbow. Hybriding with a bunch of strings, I still played the best with a Big Ace micro hybrid with Gamma Astericks16 @ 60# for over 40 men's serve and volley, but have to take care of the sore elbow.

I tried stringing lower but lost too much control. The Cyber Flash sure has a great POP but I live and die by the half volley and angled topspin and not baseline bashing. The Big ace is lower powered and in the micro is more spinny.

I have some cyber power to try and TW recommended some softer polyfibre TCS which I have but I might try some softer hybrid string
for a cross string as I played really good with the Big Ace Micro.
Also, the supex guys are great :) Hope this helps someone, cliff
I used to go thru the VS17 like you but I tried Kilp legend 16ga and they gave me double the string life. For doubles play I really like a 15ga natural gut strung at high tension. The best 15ga I ever used was Wilson, its a nice string make by Babolat.
 

PROTENNIS63

Hall of Fame
Let your son try Blue Gear on the mains and Big Ace crosses. It might prolong the life. I did that hybrid on my BB11. Someone else here tried that hybrid as well. He also strung it up on a BB11. Give it a go.
 

Kcraig

Professional
I.m thinking about going back and trying my Cyberpower again--I have a 1/2 set of 1.20 and may cross with PSGD 17g. Also, can't get over how cheap a mini reel is $45!!:) I have some serious issues and need counseling bad:oops:
 

PED

Legend
I've still got a half set of the 1.25 I might try again now that it's warm. I tried it during a cold spell in Nov and was fine with it. I liked the 1.25 better than the 1.20.
 
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