Big Three have 11 WTFs combined.

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pame

Hall of Fame
Not according to Becker and Sampras....read their autobiographies
Who determines that the slams are the biggest competitive event? ITF and ATP
Who determines that the WTF is the next biggest competitive event after the Slams? ATP and ITF
Which governing bodies of tennis assign the order of importance to the slate of competitive events? ATP and ITF
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timnz

Legend
Are you trying to tell me that Becker and Sampras, who have won a total of 8 YEC titles between them and played some epic matches at this event, don't rate these achievements or the tournament that spawned them? o_O
Exactly. When Becker first won the WTF in 1988, he said it was his greatest achievement since winning the 1986 Wimbledon. Why would he say that about an exhibition event?
 

timnz

Legend
Exactly. When Becker first won the WTF in 1988, he said it was his greatest achievement since winning the 1986 Wimbledon. Why would he say that about an exhibition event?

Boris must have been getting selective memory. I prefer players reflections at the time. Watch the end of the match - and how he acted. It was a huge deal to him winning the WTF.
 

ADuck

Legend
Nadal recently registered troll # 400. Let me guess... you're Get a Grip, no?
Why do you think he's a troll? Could just be another human. Believe it or not, there are lots of humans who think exactly the same way and have the same personality. We're not as unique as you think.
 

ghostofMecir

Hall of Fame
Why is an exhibition event relevant?

Exhibition. Exhibition. Exhibition. Exhibition. Exhibition. Olympics. Olympics. OLYMPIC GOLD MEDAL. Played only on one surface. Played only on one surface. Played only on one surface. Played only on one surface. Exhibition. Exhibition. Exhibition. Exhibition. Exhibition. Exhibition. You can lose twice and still win!1! You can lose twice and still win!1! You can lose twice and still win!1! You can lose twice and still win!1! Everyone’s tired and nobody tries. Everyone’s tired and nobody tries. Everyone’s tired and nobody tries. Everyone’s tired and nobody tries. Exhibition. Exhibition. Exhibition. Exhibition. Exhibition. Olympics. Olympics. OLYMPIC GOLD MEDAL.

Every single time.

The reality is that it’s hard to win an event when you can’t luck out on the draws (see USO wins).
 

mr tonyz

Professional
Who determines that the slams are the biggest competitive event? Becker & Sampras
Who determines that the WTF is the next biggest competitive event after the Slams? Becker & Sampras
Which governing bodies of tennis assign the order of importance to the slate of competitive events? Becker & Sampras
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A slight correction :D

p.s OSG means so much more since 2016 well because ... Remember when Djokovic cried when he lost?? So now the top players' reactions define what the biggest events are , not the points nor the history nor anything the official governing bodies of the sport actually state. Nadal's '08 OSG & Murray's '12 OGS miss out on meaning much of anything along with every other OSG medal before it (not that there were that many anyway)

p.s.s WTFs is an exhibition event , well because a lot of people say it is ...

Oh & because you can lose & still win ...

& there's a chance to face the worlds best player twice #Exho
 

pame

Hall of Fame
A slight correction :D

p.s OSG means so much more since 2016 well because ... Remember when Djokovic cried when he lost?? So now the top players' reactions define what the biggest events are , not the points nor the history nor anything the official governing bodies of the sport actually state. Nadal's '08 OSG & Murray's '12 OGS miss out on meaning much of anything along with every other OSG medal before it (not that there were that many anyway)

p.s.s WTFs is an exhibition event , well because a lot of people say it is ...

Oh & because you can lose & still win ...

& there's a chance to face the worlds best player twice #Exho
Well lookee here - the biggest sporting event in the world takes place next year. 3.5 billion people follow or play the sport, and billions more will view World Cup Football, which, surprise, surprise, is a round robin format. You can lose and still win! Try running it past anyone who's not a raving lunatic that World Cup Football is an exhibition - you'll soon be looking at padded walls from the inside.
 

Pete Player

Hall of Fame
We are so used to cup draws in tennis, that round-robin seems to be betrayal to the sports core spirit.

Same thing in the Stanlay Cup, best out of 7 games within a really short period of time. And basically nobody is questioning the format.


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The big 3 have 3 REAL wtf's (Bo5 final) combined. ;)
 

mr tonyz

Professional
Well lookee here - the biggest sporting event in the world takes place next year. 3.5 billion people follow or play the sport, and billions more will view World Cup Football, which, surprise, surprise, is a round robin format. You can lose and still win! Try running it past anyone who's not a raving lunatic that World Cup Football is an exhibition - you'll soon be looking at padded walls from the inside.

I'll 1-up you here. The Fifa World Cup can be won whilst losing , but hang on a second ...

It can also be won without winning or even scoring a goal during regular time. Penalty Shoot-Out anyone? How about after a 0-0 Draw? Why not! :D U.S.A '94 Italia vs Brazil.:p

P.s What were to happen if an entire group played out 3 x 0-0 draws each? A drawing of lots?? lol ...
 
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Deleted member 307496

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Why do you think he's a troll? Could just be another human. Believe it or not, there are lots of humans who think exactly the same way and have the same personality. We're not as unique as you think.
Not a lot of humans who sit around and think about tennis 24/7 though. And that goes out to all tennis fans, myself included. Pretty weird actually.
 
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