mike danny
Bionic Poster
Tsitsipas has a great serve and FH. Haas was never great at anything, even though he was a good all-around player.
Big Title Haul of The Next Gen - Official Watch Thread
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80s New Wave
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Maybe, my sample size of his matches isn't huge but I feel like his serve and forehand, while both excellent shots, aren't so good that he can just ride them if the rest of his game isn't working. That's what I was thinking, just comparing to someone like Medvedev who seems to be able to serve his way through rough patches a lot more often.
Krish872007
Talk Tennis Guru
Alcaraz is ushering in a "New Gen" in my view; Sinner is probably the main man in his generation
Could argue maybe FAA as well
Kyrgios, Medvedev, Coric, Zverev, Tsitsipas, Khachanov, Hurkacz, Norrie are all in an established generation that we have been calling "Next Gen" for a while
So this is also useful to have a side-by-side comparison between these 2 groups. I admit the age cut-off is quite arbitrary from my side to be fair!
Could argue maybe FAA as well
Kyrgios, Medvedev, Coric, Zverev, Tsitsipas, Khachanov, Hurkacz, Norrie are all in an established generation that we have been calling "Next Gen" for a while
So this is also useful to have a side-by-side comparison between these 2 groups. I admit the age cut-off is quite arbitrary from my side to be fair!
James P
G.O.A.T.
I think it's perfectly reasonable to consider the Med-Zed-Bus generation (approximately 95-99 DOBs) different from the new Next Gen led by the Alcaraz-Sinner-FAA trio.
abmk
Bionic Poster
I'll give the serve for Tpas, especially clutchness.
But his FH ain't that much better than Haas'.
Haas' injury problems also stalled him big time. Something that isn't recognized or talked about much atleast.
DIMI_D
Hall of Fame
The great Fed leaves the active list
leaving us at 21 active players…
Hitman
Bionic Poster
Rune joins the honors list with an incredible week in Paris, beating five top ten players.
Zverev = 2 Madrid, 1 Rome, 1 Canada, 1 Cincinnati, 1 Olympics, 2 WTF = 8 big titles
Medvedev = 1 USO, 1 Canada, 1 Cincinnati, 1 Shanghai, 1 Paris Indoors, 1 WTF = 6 big titles
Alcaraz = 1 USO, 1 Miami, 1 Madrid = 3 big titles
Tsitsipas = 2 Monte Carlo, 1 WTF = 3 big titles
Khachanov = 1 Paris Indoors = 1 big title
Hurkcaz = 1 Miami = 1 big title
Norrie = 1 IW = 1 big title
Fritz = 1 IW = 1 big title
Coric = 1 Cincinnati = 1 big title
Rune = 1 Paris Indoors = 1 big title
Zverev = 2 Madrid, 1 Rome, 1 Canada, 1 Cincinnati, 1 Olympics, 2 WTF = 8 big titles
Medvedev = 1 USO, 1 Canada, 1 Cincinnati, 1 Shanghai, 1 Paris Indoors, 1 WTF = 6 big titles
Alcaraz = 1 USO, 1 Miami, 1 Madrid = 3 big titles
Tsitsipas = 2 Monte Carlo, 1 WTF = 3 big titles
Khachanov = 1 Paris Indoors = 1 big title
Hurkcaz = 1 Miami = 1 big title
Norrie = 1 IW = 1 big title
Fritz = 1 IW = 1 big title
Coric = 1 Cincinnati = 1 big title
Rune = 1 Paris Indoors = 1 big title
WeekendTennisHack
Hall of Fame
Wow, that actually looks so lame when you consider how long some of those guys have been around. Pathetic even.
Hitman
Bionic Poster
Well, we'll likely see it pick up the pace over the coming years for sure though.
WeekendTennisHack
Hall of Fame
That you had to add the word 'likely' is quite sad.
DIMI_D
Hall of Fame
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Hitman
Bionic Poster
LOL at Wawrinka one....talking about only majoring in majors.
Incognito
Legend
His old self Beat peak Djokovic in 2012. Haas was also one of those ”what if” type of talents. So much potential.
abmk
Bionic Poster
2013. Haas didn't just beat Djokovic in Miami 2013. He slammed him at his best Masters tournament Miami, 6-2, 6-4.
2012 - he had a pretty competitive match vs Djoko in Canada 12 - only 1 to do so.
DIMI_D
Hall of Fame
What a BEAST
CHillTennis
Hall of Fame
No.
DIMI_D
Hall of Fame
Djoker 5 big titles ahead now!!!
Hitman
Bionic Poster
After a dry spell since Paris, with Djokovic winning YEC and AO, the younger players have chances to battle it out for IW and Miami, as both Djokovic and Nadal are out and will not be competing.
So, we will see some movement on the big title haul of the Next Gen this sunshine double. It will be interesting to see who comes out on top, who makes their move this month?
So, we will see some movement on the big title haul of the Next Gen this sunshine double. It will be interesting to see who comes out on top, who makes their move this month?
BeatlesFan
Bionic Poster
A Norrie-Paul final in either place would guarantee 14 total people in the stands.
mehdimike
Hall of Fame
Thanks Hitman.
I was eagerly waiting for the match to get started but then 5 mins before the start of the match some guests came over and went right after the match finished
I hate this life
Hitman
Bionic Poster
Thanks Hitman.
I was eagerly waiting for the match to get started but then 5 mins before the start of the match some guests came over and went right after the match finished
I hate this life
Don't worry, you didn't miss much to be fair.
NAS
Hall of Fame
Haas has good net game but yeah he never had big fh
travlerajm
Talk Tennis Guru
So for now, we have have Zed-Med-pas and ‘Raz, then a bunch of one-title wonders.
Hitman
Bionic Poster
He can do it
Mainad
Bionic Poster
Of the 24 officially active players who have won big titles:
3 are into double figures (Djokovic 67, Nadal 59, Murray 20)
9 others have won multiple titles (Medvedev 8, Zverev 8, Alcaraz 6, Wawrinka 4, Tsitsipas 3, Cilic 2, Del Potro 2, Dimitrov 2, Thiem 2)
12 have won 1 title each (Correno Busta, Coric, Fognini, Fritz, Hurkacz, Isner, Khachanov, Norrie, Rublev, Rune, Sinner, Sock)
3 are into double figures (Djokovic 67, Nadal 59, Murray 20)
9 others have won multiple titles (Medvedev 8, Zverev 8, Alcaraz 6, Wawrinka 4, Tsitsipas 3, Cilic 2, Del Potro 2, Dimitrov 2, Thiem 2)
12 have won 1 title each (Correno Busta, Coric, Fognini, Fritz, Hurkacz, Isner, Khachanov, Norrie, Rublev, Rune, Sinner, Sock)
CHillTennis
Hall of Fame
Not really.
DIMI_D
Hall of Fame
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Hitman
Bionic Poster
Big title watch thread for NextGen/NewGen for 2024
Thread will follow how they all do. Medvedev = 1 USO, 1 Canada, 1 Cincinnati, 1 Shanghai, 1 Paris Indoors, 1 WTF, 1 Miami, 1 Rome = 8 big titles Zverev = 2 Madrid, 1 Rome, 1 Canada, 1 Cincinnati, 1 Olympics, 2 WTF = 8 big titles Alcaraz = 1 Wimbledon, 1 USO, 1 Miami, 2 Madrid, 1 Indian Wells =...
tt.tennis-warehouse.com
Bring it into the thread for 2024 season.
DIMI_D
Hall of Fame
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nolefam_2024
Bionic Poster
Currently all the singular big titles leaders are having masters title.
Slam and ATP finals are not singular.
Fognini fritz Khachanov Norrie busta coric Rublev will never become slam champs.
Only Rune from current bunch of singular big title winners seem to be grand slam worthy right now.
Also in best of the rest Hurkacz and Dimitrov won't win a slam either.
Rest all are grand slam winners except tsitsipas and Zverev who have won multiple big titles but not a slam. They may win 1 in the future as well.
dking68
G.O.A.T.
Sinner is good in best of five
nolefam_2024
Bionic Poster
Sinner is already a slam champ. Similar to Cilic. Yes Cilic. Both are currently at 1 slam each and don't want to give hypothetical wins to sinner.
These are all slam champs so they have already done it.
dking68
G.O.A.T.
He needs to win more masters. Let’s see what he can do in Miami. I don’t trust him on clay but I expect a masters final in Rome/Monte Carlo.
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