Big tournaments won by beating Big4

[Lew II]

Big tournaments won by beating Big4:

Djokovic 14/14
Nadal 10/14 (lacks YEC, Miami, Shanghai, Paris)
Federer 9/14 (lacks RG, Rome, MC, Canada, Paris)
Murray 9/14 (lacks AO, RG, IW, MC, Paris)

 

[MeatTornado]

W	H	A	T
I	T
T	E	L	L	S
U	S

 

[Lew II]

W	H	A	T
I	T
T	E	L	L	S
U	S

That Djokovic had the most complete results against great opponents.

 

[Bamoos]

Tbf Djokovic never beat a well playing Federer at Cincy or Shanghai.

 

[blablavla]

W	H	A	T
I	T
T	E	L	L	S
U	S

it tells us that it is Roger's fault that Novak, Rafa and Andy lost before they could be defeated by Roger
it tells us that it is Rafa's fault that Roger, Novak and Andy lost before they could be defeated by Rafa

and of course it tells us that it is Roger's fault for being born 6 years before Djokodal. What a fraud.

By the way, @Lew II how many Big Tournaments were won by beating Big 4 by the following players:
Sampras
Edberg
McEnroe
Borg
Laver

 

[NatF]

 

[TearTheRoofOff]

Car crashes are certainly apt.

 

[NatF]

Car crashes are certainly apt.

Federer's legacy will forever be in question if he doesn't beat Andy Murray on the way to winning a FO.

 

[TearTheRoofOff]

Federer's legacy will forever be in question if he doesn't beat Andy Murray on the way to winning a FO.

Even if it's HipHipMurray playing like dogsh*t, it will definitely take his career to the next level, de facto.

 

[Krish872007]

Nadal won Cincinnati in 2013, not sure why this is omitted.

 

[NatF]

Even if it's HipHipMurray playing like dogsh*t, it will definitely take his career to the next level, de facto.

Name > Form always.

 

[blablavla]

Nadal won Cincinnati in 2013, not sure why this is omitted.

Did he defeat Roger, Novak and Andy en-route to the title?
if not, it's a fake title

 

[TearTheRoofOff]

Did he defeat Roger, Novak and Andy en-route to the title?
if not, it's a fake title

FAKE AND GAY

 

[Bamoos]

Federer's legacy will forever be in question if he doesn't beat Andy Murray on the way to winning a FO.

Even without Murray, Djokovic beat 2015 Nadal who had 90% wins on clay if you take away losses to Djokovic, Wawrinka and Murray.

 

[Lew II]

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[Lew II]

Nadal won Cincinnati in 2013, not sure why this is omitted.

He beat Federer. My bad.

 

[Rafa4LifeEver]

Big tournaments won by beating Big4:

Djokovic 14/14
Nadal 10/14 (lacks YEC, Miami, Shanghai, Paris)
Federer 9/14 (lacks RG, Rome, MC, Canada, Paris)

Sir I disagree with you because you're selectively displaying some data.

 

[TheNachoMan]

Novak does things the hard way

 

[blablavla]

Novak does things the hard way

yeah, it's difficult to win a GS if you get defaulted

 

[skaj]

Big tournaments won by beating Big4:

Djokovic 14/14
Nadal 10/14 (lacks YEC, Miami, Shanghai, Paris)
Federer 9/14 (lacks RG, Rome, MC, Canada, Paris)

You need to edit it at least one more time:
Djokovic 14/15
Nadal 11/15
Federer 9/15

 

[Krish872007]

You need to edit it at least one more time:
Djokovic 14/15
Nadal 11/15
Federer 9/15

Olympics?

In that case Lew should add Sir Andrew to the list as well - since we are referring to a 'Big 4'

 

[Krish872007]

Big tournaments won by beating Big4:

Djokovic 14/14
Nadal 10/14 (lacks YEC, Miami, Shanghai, Paris)
Federer 9/14 (lacks RG, Rome, MC, Canada, Paris)

Let's add Mury GOAT as well please
9/14 (or 10/15 if we include the Olympics). He lacks: Australian Open, French Open, Indian Wells, Monte Carlo, Paris

 

[topher]

W	H	A	T
I	T
T	E	L	L	S
U	S

That Lew likes to include the Big 4 only when it makes Novak look better by treating Murray equal to Fedal. Otherwise he uses Big3

 

[Antonio Puente]

That Djokovic had the most complete results against great opponents.

1. No matter how hard you try, Murray is not great. He's not an all-time great.

2. Beating Murray at RG proves nothing. Murray at RG is your measuring stick?

3. Big Titles = a made up, joke statistic.

 

[blablavla]

That Lew likes to include the Big 4 only when it makes Novak look better by treating Murray equal to Fedal. Otherwise he uses Big3

and ignore Novak NK H2H at all times

 

[blablavla]

2. Beating Murray at RG proves nothing. Murray at RG is your measuring stick?

of course.
who else could be the measuring stick at RG?
Nadal? common, let's be serious.

 

[skaj]

Olympics?

In that case Lew should add Sir Andrew to the list as well - since we are referring to a 'Big 4'

He should add him in any case.

 

[PilotPete]

'Big' 4, 'Big' Tournaments, 'Big' stupidity?

 

[Bender]

Big tournaments won by beating Big4:

Djokovic 14/14
Nadal 10/14 (lacks YEC, Miami, Shanghai, Paris)
Federer 9/14 (lacks RG, Rome, MC, Canada, Paris)

How can Djokovic beat B4 when he hasn't beaten Djokovic?

 

[Mainad]

No matter how hard you try, Murray is not great. He's not an all-time great.

Nobody has to try as hard as you have to do to prove otherwise.

 

[Mainad]

Let's add Mury GOAT as well please
9/14 (or 10/15 if we include the Olympics). He lacks: Australian Open, French Open, Indian Wells, Monte Carlo, Paris

That should come as news to him!

 

[Lew II]

Let's add Mury GOAT as well please
9/14 (or 10/15 if we include the Olympics). He lacks: Australian Open, French Open, Indian Wells, Monte Carlo, Paris

Murray better than Federer?

And people complain that I included him...

 

[Lew II]

That should come as news to him!

Did not beat Big4 to win that title.

 

[Mainad]

Did not beat Big4 to win that title.

Got you but he did beat Djokovic in the 2009 Miami final so you need to cross that one off.

I expect Paris is the only big title he won where he never had to face a fellow Big 4er.

 

[vive le beau jeu !]

aaah great, our daily Lew thread, at last... I was starting to feel hungry!

 

[Mainad]

Big tournaments won by beating Big4:

Djokovic 14/14
Nadal 10/14 (lacks YEC, Miami, Shanghai, Paris)
Federer 9/14 (lacks RG, Rome, MC, Canada, Paris)
Murray 9/14 (lacks AO, RG, Miami, MC, Paris)

He beat Djokovic in the 2009 final in Miami.

 

[Krish872007]

He beat Djokovic in the 2009 final in Miami.

Needs to be replaced with Indian Wells
Surprisingly hasn't won the title there

 

[Lew II]

He beat Djokovic in the 2009 final in Miami.

I meant IW

 

[Breakpointerer]

Needs to be replaced with Indian Wells
Surprisingly hasn't won the title there

He's always struggled big time in IW, has 4 2R exits and 7 in the R16 or earlier

 

[CYGS]

Big 4 is a myth

 

[Mainad]

He's always struggled big time in IW, has 4 2R exits and 7 in the R16 or earlier

He made 1 final in 2009 and 2 semis in 2007 and 2015 but overall he has definitely underperformed there. He has admitted himself that he doesn't really know why his record is so patchy there.

 

[hoodjem]

Murray?

Or Wawrinka?






Big Three.

 

[Mainad]

Murray?

Big 4.

Or Wawrinka?

Big 5.

Big Three?

Federer, Nadal, Djokovic.

 

[Mainad]

'Big' 4, 'Big' Tournaments, 'Big' stupidity?

"Big" yawn!