Bigger waste: Marcelo Rios or Guillermo Coria?

GameSetR

Rookie
rios was more talented that for sure, coria is very overrated, even more than rios.
Yeah, I would agree that Rios was a higher-level talent, though I find his talent extremely overrated. Some people talk about Rios as if he was Rod Laver.

But yeah, he was a superior player to Coria.
 

Mustard

Talk Tennis Guru
Guillermo Coria at his best was magic. Also, mentally tough, believe it or not. For a great example of the latter, see his win over Gonzalez at 2004 Miami.
 

80s New Wave

New User
Rios should have done better at the slams but I think his top end potential was still a bit limited as he didn't hit have great power and, for a player of his dimensions, I thought his movement was very good but not great. His hands and ability to take the ball early and put it in difficult spots for his opponent was top notch but winning slams without elite defensive speed or some kind of put away power (serve or fh) is pretty rare.

Coria really wasted more to me because he basically had a rg title virtually wrapped up and collapsed mentally.
 
Guillermo Coria at his best was magic. Also, mentally tough, believe it or not. For a great example of the latter, see his win over Gonzalez at 2004 Miami.
He wasn't even a contender on anything but clay. That alone suggests only talented to a certain extent. Really great talents with a strong work ethic, and reasonably strong mind, are not contenders on just one surface.
 

Mustard

Talk Tennis Guru
He wasn't even a contender on anything but clay. That alone suggests only talented to a certain extent. Really great talents with a strong work ethic, and reasonably strong mind, are not contenders on just one surface.
Quarter finalist at the US Open on multiple occasions, including with yips trouble in 2005.
 

BGod

Legend
The biggest thing to remember for Coria is Nadal would have pummeled him consistently. So whatever his potential, Nadal was going to be there.

Rios on the other hand could have made quite a run but crapped out.
 

Clay lover

Hall of Fame
I am always going to be biased towards Coria as he represented the last generation of clay courters with actual all-court skills and who didn't just brainlessly bash high % topspin balls like how the nextgen plays on EVERY SURFACE today. He had awesome touch and decent volleys, wasn't unwilling to come in and also pulled the trigger despite his modest power (especially when playing Nadal as it was impossible to put him away otherwise).
 

GameSetR

Rookie
I am always going to be biased towards Coria as he represented the last generation of clay courters with actual all-court skills and who didn't just brainlessly bash high % topspin balls like how the nextgen plays on EVERY SURFACE today. He had awesome touch and decent volleys, wasn't unwilling to come in and also pulled the trigger despite his modest power (especially when playing Nadal as it was impossible to put him away otherwise).
Yeah, the way the new generation plays the game is terrible imo.
 

Jack the Hack

Hall of Fame
Well, considering that Rios made it to #1, had 5 M1000 titles, and yet never won a Slam... I think he was clearly a more talented player than Coria, yet failed to capitalize on his gifts. I always considered Coria to be a clay court specialist. All 9 of Coria's titles are on clay, where Rios has titles on hard courts, clay, and even indoor carpet. I also think Rios was one of the first guys to win the "sunshine double" with the 1998 Indian Wells and Miami titles back-to-back.
 

Bambooman

Rookie
Rios was basically done right when he should have just been hitting his stride. His lack of a GS win as a number one is an unfair criticism.
 

christo

Hall of Fame
I remember watching Rios play Jeff Tarango at the US Open, for whatever reason the Argentinean players , Delpo, Schwartzmann etc always have a very vociferous support group and this match was a very ill tempered affair. Tarango was very belligerent, no surprise there as he was nowhere near the talent level of Rios, but Rios was very easily upset by Tarango's rudeness and swagger and ended up losing . It was almost like a European soccer match and Rios allowed Tarango to get in his head and beat him. It was probably the same year he lost to Korda in the Aus Open final when Korda was on PED's, cheating son of a biscuit. That title should definitely have an asterisk next to it.
No room in the sport for drug cheats.
 
Quarter finalist at the US Open on multiple occasions, including with yips trouble in 2005.
That alone does not make you a contender. There are rogue journeymen who have been to a couple quarters or more at the U.S Open, or even a semi. I stand by what I said, Coria only ever demonstrated being a contender on one surface- clay.
 

dryeagle

New User
Both played in one GS final? Rios drilled by a juiced Korda and Coria choked two set lead to Gaudio.

Guess Rios was the better player.
 
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