Discussion in 'Adult League & Tournament Talk' started by SunYiXian, May 2, 2012.
You must be using some crummy balls. Invest in high quality balls and life will be grand.
Maybe... I usually get either Wilson US Open or Pro Penn; they at least last the two sets unlike the Penn/Wilson Championship balls. The Dunlop's wear about as well but I don't like them as much. What do you use?
EDIT: I should mention that I play exclusively on hard court; maybe you get more life out of balls on clay etc.
I play only on hardcourt (socal). I use ProPenn Marathon Extra Duty
They seem to last the longest out of all the balls I've tried. Dunlop Grand Prix used to be the best years ago, but now they're just awful.
Pro Penn Extra Duty: Tennis balls for Tennis Gods.
Yeah, those Pro Penns are the ones I use... that last me 2 sets. Oh well.
I must be doing something wrong. Or you're an open level player.
Just a 4.5. Must be related to court surface or something. Our hard courts are rarely ever cleaned and so balls lose their felt get dirty and start flying really quickly.
No big deal considering balls are cheap relative to other costs of playing tennis.
ProPennXD are pretty good.
Same durability as DunlopHDHardcourtChamps, but lighter in weight and a little softer.
Something that stupid can only be said by someone who doesn't know enough to value his friends.
I've got one of these close to me and it's great for using a ball machine as most tennis players wouldn't use it. I also see quite a few first time tennis players go there to mess around having never played tennis before - it's a great place for that kind of thing as you don't have to worry about messing up more serious games or being intimidated by people who know what they're doing. Actually I took my gf who had never played tennis there the other day and we had a blast. So a badly maintained court has it's uses!
So all your tennis friends go to a public court and you do not like that?
So then where do you generally play tennis? Public courts?
It sounds sort of like the guy who hates the spaghetti at the corner restaurant but he goes there everyday to eat the spaghetti. :grin:
Nope..public city park D-Bag....B-Ballers who shoot each other at one end and us at the other, street people passing out nearby...but who gives a ****, we play good tennis and block it out...like I said only distraction we give a crap about is something worth looking at.
Maybe you didn't get it? My peeve is A-holes who whine about distractions.
But your little "novella" was mildly amusing.
The problem isn't the balls; it's the courts. Specifically, the fact that they don't clean them often enough. The new strings and the spin they create probably contributes too. I'm like @Orange - after 90 minutes to 2 hrs - std practice time - they are done. Always seems to be someone having a sale.
@jakeytennis, +1. There is a middle aged 'person of mass' who plays at one of the facilities my friends and I do - she might be a 3.0 on a good day. Hard to believe she was ever that good - but that doesn't stop her from berating herself in a VERY LOUD VOICE! on every unforced error as if she's JMac and playing for a spot in the Wimbledon final. One of my friends finally decided to say something and after one of her outbursts nicely reminded her there were other matches going on nearby; she immediately went into 'victim mode' and told her partner "I guess we can't play here anymore; we're not welcome." Amazing.
I use new balls every match. I may keep the used balls from the previous match in my bag to warm up before an actual match. Once my opponent(s) arrive and we intend to play, we open the new balls. I then put them in my hopper for practice.
I do not understand the playing multiple matches on the same balls.
Follow up on a earlier post-People that say I'm unsure (whether in or out) but i'll give it to you.
Some of the old farts I play with who do this are just CHEAP! CHEAP! CHEAP! They are rich (nothing wrong with that though), multiple homes, private court worse then some of the worst public courts, hem & haw stalling around to see who will open. If I pull out Wimbledon Slazengers or Babolat Roland Garros, they ***** just because they are different, aren't at all interested, real jaded old farts. Some times I'll open two cans to move the game along and they ***** because they're too many balls.
The trick is to bring it in such a way that they don't lose face, but that's like walking a tightrope.
Thank you, this is the internets, you have to find inspiration wherever it presents.
I like your style!
Thank you Corbind, this is the internets, any appreciation is always appreciated. :-o
People who lose and assume the opponent is a sandbagger (or make comments like "you must be self-rated, right?")
people who overestimate their playing level. i'm a bottom of the barrel 4.5 league player. if there was a 4.5 area beneath the bottom of that barrel -- like the dirt maybe, i'd be there.
have hit with a few folks who believed they are 4.5 and 5.0 players. the problem with their estimation is they lose to me love and one.
when i explain to them that they would get some great matches in 4.0 leagues - they laugh at me and say they couldn't play that low. huh?
Doubles partner having a bad night and blaming you
I played doubles last night with someone new, and he was having an off night. He then proceeded to coach me, telling me I was too close to the net, and that I hit my backhand too hard. He told me to ease up, we are only playing 3.5.
I told him I have been working hard on my back hand for months and that I thought I was hitting them really well. He then said I would NEVER have a proper back hand. I told him he should concentrate on not double faulting so much:twisted:
What frigin' D-bag, we came back from 2-6 to take the set 7-6 (not a regular match, just whoever gets the most games wins) and he was still grumpy.
It may be difficult for you to imagine, but pretend for a moment that you've got a large number of friends. Not all of them play tennis, but some of them do and you play with them.
Of those that play tennis with you, some of them play at one of the nice facilities with good courts. Some of them don't want to do that because they'd rather play on free, crappy courts than pay for court time.
They're all your friends, and you value all of them.
No, I'm afraid it doesn't sort of sound like that it all. It sounds more like the guy who hates the spaghetti at the corner, and eats elsewhere most of the time -- but he has some friends who love the place because it's all you can eat for free even though they all admit it doesn't taste very good. And when those friends come over, he can't convince them to eat anywhere else, because free spaghetti is hard for these particular friends to pass up.
I understand that evidently that's going to be a really complex analogy for you to try to get straight, but believe me: You'll be a smarter person for working it all out.
And quit with the stalking already. It's weird.
Yeah, this one gets me too.
Things like Ultimate Tennis and other flex leagues really skew people's perception of their game. "Hey... I play 4.5 in Ultimate so I am a 4.5." When I say they may be better suited to 3.5 they get offended. They usually sign up for 4.0 USTA and the computer sends them to 3.5 after 1 season. The truth is USTA league and these less competitive leagues are nowhere related. They are decent to recruit from to find the potential self rate that has been out of the game for sometime and came back at a level but 95% of the players are at least .5 at below level and at least 50% are 1.0 too high.
Yep, you reminded me of another pet peeve: People who are Too Good to play their level.
I'm not talking about people who also want to play up because they are competitive at the higher level (a 3.5 who wants to play 3.5 and 4.0).
I'm talking about someone who is a 3.5C but who will not play 3.5 level because . . . well, you hear it all.
"There's not enough pace."
"There's too much lobbing."
Actually, playing your level isn't any of those things. If there's not enough pace, that's because you're not generating any. If there's too much lobbing, that means you don't have an overhead and swinging volley. If it's boring, it's because you are standing in one spot.
Play your level and dominate. When you have the Mad Tennis Skillz to move up, the computer will move you up.
This keeps happening...I hate it..
...When Someone calls your hit IN, then when you trade douce points, they try to cheat by saying they win since that one hit was OUT. wtf!
I hit a ball right on the line and the guy calls it in and says nice shot...Then when he's down and goes to say his points, all of a sudden he's up and now saying that point was out...HATE IT.
It's now been 3 people that have done it, and we argue even when the people watching agree with me.
That is why the score should be announced every point. Loud enough for all to hear. Its also why a no call is a bad way to say in, "IN" loud enough to be heard or a clear visual sign that the ball was in that lasts longer than a micron so opposing team can see it.
Worst thing is when partners look at each other for a call and then don't call it and just assume the other team knows it is in or out or whatever their secret eye contact meant to each other.
This is of course nullified when you are playing a person with a low voice, and only one arm. But there partner should do it then. (yes he was real, and quite decent too)
Pet Peeve: Doubles partner telling me how to serve. Happened to me last night. We were up 5-3 in the second set after having won the first 7-6. I had not lost my service game all night and I was up. Partner came over to me before starting and said "give me 4 good kick serves". My service game is great....but erratic due to my horrible tossing. So I rely on where the toss is as to what type of serve is coming. Of course I double fault twice in the game and lose it. Ended up losing that set 7-6 and losing the third set tie breaker.
When my doubles partner wants me to fluff him and complains I am too stoic while playing. I mean really? I crack a smile, I laugh and say good job and maybe next time if they do something bad. But common man. I'm not one to just talk your ear off or just talk for no reason at all. Not the type to just run up and high five and give a should or anything.
I hate playing mixed with guys who can only serve/hit at two speeds--KILL and BURST-ALL-VEINS-IN-TEMPLES-KILL. These are invariably the guys who can't move, or construct points in any way, or play the score. Every serve, first or second, has to be an ace at max power. Every put-away has to make the walls thunder with their mighty blows. They just want you to smell the testosterone they release with every ball they bludgeon, whether they hit it out of the park or shred the net with their bombs.
They don't know how to play tennis, and you are reduced to passive onlooker having little say in the outcome of the match.
I know the type, and then if they lose it is because the other party is a boring pusher, it's never them because they feel they are just diamond in the rough 'Andy Roddicks'. :-D
Ah, but you haven't been listening.
When they crush an easy ball so far out that bystanders have to duck, they explain the problem thusly:
"I just can't hit all this junk. I came here for some Real Tennis!"
^^^^^ that even annoys the non women too. though thankfully its on other side of net from me. sure i can crack a great ball and get it in 1 out of 3 times....and that is a great way to lose a match. guys want to crack balls long do it in practice, matches are for winning.
last night guy couldn't get a decent serve in trying to spin it so he started trying to crack it. well that screwed him up on his second serve and he summarily dropped every service game
Ha ha! Gotta love the "non-women"...
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