Biological metrics - are you okay with it?

mxmx

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Banks scanning irises and fingerprints (even phones being used)...are you okay with them having these methods without the option to opt out?

So basically criminals need to cut off your hand and take out your eyeball to steal your money? Theft used to be so much safer for the victims...
 
Banks scanning irises and fingerprints (even phones being used)...are you okay with them having these methods without the option to opt out?

So basically criminals need to cut off your hand and take out your eyeball to steal your money? Theft used to be so much safer for the victims...
Which bank is forcing customers to scan their irises?
 

mxmx

Hall of Fame
Which bank is forcing customers to scan their irises?
I don't want to share where I live...but basically their internet banking will soon stop working unless you have the latest app installed on a smartphone, which enables iris scanning and facial recognition (unsure about fingerprint tech). They also use voice recognition in calls which I suspected they've been doing for a while now anyway.

Their online banking has always had various security measures to sign in which I feel was more than enough. You also had the option to opt out of for example sim swap protection. I get the impression nothing to do with opting out will this time be an option.
 

ByeByePoly

G.O.A.T.
Banks scanning irises and fingerprints (even phones being used)...are you okay with them having these methods without the option to opt out?

So basically criminals need to cut off your hand and take out your eyeball to steal your money? Theft used to be so much safer for the victims...
Stolen eyeballs will require 2FA.
 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
And Apple wants to spy on your phone on the basis of information provided by third parties ... all for a good cause, of course.
 

TTMR

Hall of Fame
I personally would like to see health insurance come to an app. It can include that gps function that measures your steps, but in addition track your location and purchase data as to determine what you are eating and drinking, how much you are exercising, and how much you read or talk to intellectually dangerous individuals, determine your rates and pre-approve/pre-deny your claims in real time--before you even enter a medical facility.

It would encourage far better habits and behaviour. Only moron luddites would have problems with this.
 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
You should get "likes" for reading and talking to intellectually dangerous individuals.

I personally would like to see health insurance come to an app. It can include that gps function that measures your steps, but in addition track your location and purchase data as to determine what you are eating and drinking, how much you are exercising, and how much you read or talk to intellectually dangerous individuals, determine your rates and pre-approve/pre-deny your claims in real time--before you even enter a medical facility.

It would encourage far better habits and behaviour. Only moron luddites would have problems with this.
 

TTMR

Hall of Fame
Bartelby said:
You should get "likes" for reading and talking to intellectually dangerous individuals.
I think the Australian proposal to tie internet access and usage to your digital/real ID is best. No need to try and ban misinformation here or there which is painstaking and cumbersome even with AI, just eliminate anonymity at the user level so users will be more encouraged to follow legitimate, approved sources.

It would also get rid of the troll problem plaguing sites like TTW.
 
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mxmx

Hall of Fame
somebody's been watching "Minority Report"
I've seen it. Not why I said it though.

But don't think it's far fetched for some people in some countries to be barbaric enough to do these things. You'd be surprised how far people will go even as we speak.
 

mxmx

Hall of Fame
I think the Australian proposal to tie internet access and usage to your digital/real ID is best. No need to try and ban misinformation here or there which is painstaking and cumbersome even with AI, just eliminate anonymity at the user level so users will be more encouraged to follow legitimate, approved sources.

It would also get rid of the troll problem plaguing sites like TTW.
You mean freedom of speech.
 

TTMR

Hall of Fame
You mean freedom of speech.
The internet is facilitated by your internet service provider, a private company, connecting you to a number of privately owned servers around the world, none of which are obliged to honour your constitutional freedoms. Bills of rights are only applicable to government owned spaces. No one is stopping you from preaching on the sidewalk or public park. I mean, yeah, in Australia they are stopping you, but that's just temporary, like income tax.
 
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Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
Banks scanning irises and fingerprints (even phones being used)...are you okay with them having these methods without the option to opt out?

So basically criminals need to cut off your hand and take out your eyeball to steal your money? Theft used to be so much safer for the victims...
i am not ok with it. it can cause cancer or for you to go blind
 

Crocodile

Legend
Your vaccine passport is in the mail, love Scott.
Now that you will except your passport don’t forget we have the chip coming soon and to save the climate we want you to try it first. All biological
Metrics will be monitored here and we want to keep you safe. Scott is now on your side. Be happy, love Klaus
 
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Bartelby

Bionic Poster
Scott will give you all that and more EXCEPT for a climate policy.

Now that you will except your passport don’t forget we have the chip coming soon and to save the climate we want you to try it first. All biological
Metrics will be monitored here and we want to keep you safe. Scott is now on your side. Be happy, love Klaus
 

Clay lover

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I think fingers without warmth actually don't work so it's a bit more complicated than that... they have to chop your finger off, duplicate your fingerprint and connect it to some heat source etc. Irises I don't know about
 

mxmx

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The internet is facilitated by your internet service provider, a private company, connecting you to a number of privately owned servers around the world, none of which are obliged to honour your constitutional freedoms. Bills of rights are only applicable to government owned spaces. No one is stopping you from preaching on the sidewalk or public park. I mean, yeah, in Australia they are stopping you, but that's just temporary, like income tax.
Good point to some degree...except I fully disagree with your last sentence. The pandemic has been an excuse to take away most liberties. Most people think it's temporary but I think they are definitely abusing the system and it will eventually get worse.

They are making us used to the idea of being mandated to do things, turning most of society against each other. The vax isn't 100% safe, yet the people are being mandated to take it, not giving the anti v people the benefit of the doubt.

Meanwhile....

...sport stadia are full of people without masks. If those people are so afraid of the unv*xed, why would they risk letting people being so tightly squeezed in? If sport stadiums are so full, surely it's a massive risk if the virus is so dangerous. If not, mandates are not needed because people in fear of the virus are vaxed and have nothing to fear. They cannot have sport stadiums full AND mandate v's. It doesn't make sense to do so.

Back to the internet:
They know people are starving and losing basic rights if they don't use the internet the way they want them to. For example children in some countries need to register online to go to school. So the masses without proper internet access cannot even apply via walk ins. So the basic right to education is only a right on their terms (obviously having made monetary deals with service providers in the process). Just one of many examples.

The banks are forcing people to use bio metrics on their "safe" servers (linked to government databases) only then to leak hundreds of thousands of people's very private information to hackers.
 

mxmx

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Stolen eyeballs will require 2FA.
The logical problem for now will be that criminals will need to have you by their side/be in your home in order to steal money. It (bio m's) sounds like a safer method, but if you think about it, it's actually placing people more at risk.
 

mxmx

Hall of Fame
If you got the covid vax, you already got it.
Can you explain in your own words how the tech works?

It probably is not the "it" you speak of yet. Will probably come later with booster shots when people are more open (brainwashed) to the idea.
 

Sudacafan

Bionic Poster
Can you explain in your own words how the tech works?

It probably is not the "it" you speak of yet. Will probably come later with booster shots when people are more open (brainwashed) to the idea.
Sure, this has all been duly documented according to the most advanced scientific research.
It goes like this: You get the chip with the first vaccine shot, then you get the hormones that turn you into a wolf in the second shot. The third shot is for the magnets. Well, the order can be altered in some cases, depending on the vaccine brand you get.
 
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mxmx

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Sure, this has all been duly documented according to the most advanced scientific research.
It goes like this: You get the chip with the first vaccine shot, then you get the hormones that turn you into a wolf in the second shot. The third shot is for the magnets. Well, the order can be altered in some cases, depending on the vaccine brand you get.
Invisible ID + vaccine with current technology – BBC

“Travellers would present the customs officers with an entrance visa and a vaccination record. That could be a paper card – or a tiny tattoo on their arm, invisible to the naked eye but readable by an infrared scanner. This technology already exists and has been tried on live animals and human cadaver skin, said researcher Ana Jaklenec at Massachusetts Institute of Technology. Their method uses micro-needle patches that can deliver both the vaccine and a squirt of an invisible ink under the person’s skin, storing the vaccination record.

 

Sudacafan

Bionic Poster
Invisible ID + vaccine with current technology – BBC

“Travellers would present the customs officers with an entrance visa and a vaccination record. That could be a paper card – or a tiny tattoo on their arm, invisible to the naked eye but readable by an infrared scanner. This technology already exists and has been tried on live animals and human cadaver skin, said researcher Ana Jaklenec at Massachusetts Institute of Technology. Their method uses micro-needle patches that can deliver both the vaccine and a squirt of an invisible ink under the person’s skin, storing the vaccination record.

This is even worse; you get the vax AND a tattoo? Will I be obliged to wear tattoos? I don't mind if they are invisible, I just don't like them at all!
 
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Crocodile

Legend
I just feel like escaping out into the country and buy some land far away from disease, grow some fruit and vegetables, make goats cheese, build a tennis court and be done with it.
I don’t want this AI control taking over our lives. Surely people don’t want what all this centralised control, it’s awful.
 
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