Bizarre USTA league match scenario

[Tennis_Fever]

On Saturday, I played a USTA #2 Singles Match indoors. We were told up front that we only had the courts reserved for 2 hours, as there were lessons following our league match. The 1st set in my match ending up taking 1.5 hours (!!!) and ended in a somewhat questionable manner (I called his shot wide and he thought it was in but was not interested in replaying the point..) and subsequently my opponent took the opener 7-6 (11-9). We started the 2nd set but I knew there was no way we could finish the match in time. I raced out to a 5-2 lead before we ran out of time. We shook hands and walked out to the lobby together where we met with some of our teammates. One of them said the lessons had been cancelled and "they were going to let us finish our match anyways". We were then informed that I would be getting the win because of the USTA timed-match rules (I had won more games overall, 11-7). My opponent then asked me if I wanted to finish our match, which I agreed. So we went back to the courts, which ended up being chaotic because a cleaning crew was vacuuming the courts and all of the alarms were going off. We also had to change courts twice because of this. So I ended up winning the 2nd set, 6-2, and we went on to play a 3rd set tiebreak which my opponent won 10-8 (also questionable because we didn't agree on the score..). After the match, my opponent reiterated that I would get the win because of the rules, and that he just wanted to finish out the match. However, after consulting with my teammates, they said I should just take the loss to avoid being bumped up (I had yet to drop a set in the league up to this point). The next day, I saw my captain had recorded the score in favor of my opponent, 7-6(9), 2-6, 10-8. So now I am all kinds of confused. Who is right and who is wrong? What do you all think? What would you do if you were me?

 

[tennis_ocd]

wow, that is kinda bizarre. If I walked back out to continue (which I would have) I'd take the final score and loss.

 

[Alchemy-Z]

. We shook hands

Game over- this is the moment the match was considered complete by both members

 

[Tennis_Fever]

wow, that is kinda bizarre. If I walked back out to continue (which I would have) I'd take the final score and loss.

Yeah that's what I'm thinking too...but that goes against the USTA rules, technically speaking.

 

[Tennis_Fever]

Game over- this is the moment the match was considered complete by both members

That is what I thought, but coming back out to the courts to play it out confused me, because it was never clearly articulated whether the match was over or not.

 

[JLyon]

why would you win if he was up a set after the match was timed out? Figured he has the 1 set to 0 lead?
You shook hands though and match was over.
Also your captain needs a reprimand for score fixing

 

[kevrol]

The 1st set in my match ending up taking 1.5 hours (!!!) and ended in a somewhat questionable manner (I called his shot wide and he thought it was in but was not interested in replaying the point..) and subsequently my opponent took the opener 7-6 (11-9).

If you called it wide how did he end up winning the point? Make your call and stick with it. You had a better view than he did.

 

[Tennis_Fever]

If you called it wide how did he end up winning the point? Make your call and stick with it. You had a better view than he did.

I was behind the baseline and he was right up at the net. He said he had no doubt, and, like I said, wasn't interested in replaying the point.

 

[kevrol]

Also from what I understand the outcome of your match doesn't have an affect on your ratings it's really about games won/lost. So really your capt lying about who won is irrelevant. Also if he won the first 7-6 and your were up 5-2 in the 2nd the match was 11-9, not 11-7 when you stopped. So you still had a 2 game differential.

 

[beernutz]

I was behind the baseline and he was right up at the net. He said he had no doubt, and, like I said, wasn't interested in replaying the point.

It is not his decision whether to replay the point or not. You called it out. If you were sure it was out stick to your call. If you weren't sure, it is his point. A replay should not be an option.

 

[beernutz]

BTW, I don't think your NTRP would be different whether you stopped the match at 5-2 in the second or finished it out with the TB. At 5-2 you had a 2 game positive differential (11-9) and after the TB you still had a 2 game positive differential (12-10). The NTRP algorithm doesn't factor in match winners and losers, only the number of games won or lost during a match.

 

[Bionic slice]

why would you give up, it was almost 1-1. I've never had a time constraints on a usta match. I wouldn't want to win this way...

 

[tennis tom]

I would have kept playing until some bodies started rattling at the gate. Time to lawyer up.

 

[struggle]

at 5-2, you had the momentum. shoulda kept playing as tom t says above until runnoft.

since you agreed to keep playing, i think you take the loss. (this would be the gentleman's rule, not necessarily that of the USTA).

 

[Tennis_Fever]

at 5-2, you had the momentum. shoulda kept playing as tom t says above until runnoft.

since you agreed to keep playing, i think you take the loss. (this would be the gentleman's rule, not necessarily that of the USTA).

We stopped playing because it was a timed match...obviously we would've kept playing otherwise.

I agree with you, and I did end up taking the loss, I just don't agree with how it played out.

 

[Donald]

why would you win if he was up a set after the match was timed out? Figured he has the 1 set to 0 lead?

Because by USTA rules, in a timed match, if one of the players leads in the second set by 2 games or more, that counts as a full set win. Normally in timed matches, a first-to-10 match tie-break must be played after that, even if time has expired. However if courts are not available for the match tie-break, then indeed the winner is determined by the total number of games won.