Blade V8 Official Thread.

lychee_boy

New User
Ahhh gotcha. Ok sorry I was a little confused haha. What are your v7 specs? Before writing off the v8 completely, what you could do is add a few grams of lead at 12 to beef up the SW without increasing overall weight by too much. Add like 4 grams and then play. You should definitely notice more power and the SW should be very close to your v7. That would give you a more fair comparison between the two IMO. I am going to try something similar with my demo v8. Unfortunately I don’t have access to an RDC machine so I have to do it via feel hahaha
Also if you wanna keep the same balance point then you can add a few grams in the butt cap trap door, but I think matching the SW is a good start.
304g, 303sw; I added 6 grams to the butt caps for the 3 v7's and v8. Can't match the SW on the v8 based on the BP's being almost identical across the board.. based on the recommendation of the MRT here :)
 
304g, 303sw; I added 6 grams to the butt caps for the 3 v7's and v8. Can't match the SW on the v8 based on the BP's being almost identical across the board.. based on the recommendation of the MRT here :)
Damn. I guess if people are looking for v8 18m they should use matching service to get something with 295+ SW unstrung and balance at 32,5. Btw that’s 303 SW UNSTRUNG for V7, right? So that would put you to 330-335 depending on what strings you use
 
I got a 16x19 and 18x20 v8 from TWE this week.

Unstrung specs
16x19 302gr, 32.15cm, 286 SW
18x20 305gr, 32cm, 287 SW

Strung specs with OG and 2gr damper (1.20 poly)
16x19 324gr, 32.75cm, 315SW
18x20 327gr, 32.5cm, 319SW

played both for an hour and compared with my 18x20 v7 with same strings modified to ~335gr, 32cm, 330 SW (weight added only in the handle).

-V8 is more crisp and appeared a little less flexible in the hoop but equally flexible in the throat.
-Nice feel from the v8 a little less dampened compared to the v7.
-Both v8 stock were less powered and less stable than the modified v7.

Conclusion: at stock specs both v8 are virtually unplayable for me.
 

alexg

Rookie
Conclusion: at stock specs both v8 are virtually unplayable for me.
They mislabeled this product. A Wilson Blade has some heft in the hoop. At least in our collective minds. This should have been sold with a few strips of lead attached to the handle and the cardboard should read “blade kit”.
 

jdx2112

Professional
They mislabeled this product. A Wilson Blade has some heft in the hoop. At least in our collective minds. This should have been sold with a few strips of lead attached to the handle and the cardboard should read “blade kit”.
I think the intended design was to create a line with SW below 325 for 18m and 320-315 for 16m…the added firmness in the hoop enables this. The reason is they probably correctly identifies that the v7 was inaccessible to a larger population.

the problem is quality control is hot garbage and people are getting sticks with string SW under 310…
 
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JEDI MASTER

Semi-Pro
just got my demos from another on-line shop
strung with Wilson Sensation, no OG or dampener.
Specs came out to

16x19
Wt: 322.9
Bal: 33cm - 4pt HL
Sw: 321

18x20
Wt: 322.9
Bal: 33cm - 4pt HL
SW: 320

looking forward to hitting with these for week...
 

nyc

Hall of Fame
Is the paint more durable then the v7? Sorry if answered already
Actually it’s terrible. I’ve had it for two weeks and it’s already more beat up than my prestiges I’ve been hitting with since 2013. Scratches and chips all over. Granted, I put it through the wringer, with lots of defensive pick ups.
 
just got my demos from another on-line shop
strung with Wilson Sensation, no OG or dampener.
Specs came out to

16x19
Wt: 322.9
Bal: 33cm - 4pt HL
Sw: 321

18x20
Wt: 322.9
Bal: 33cm - 4pt HL
SW: 320

looking forward to hitting with these for week...
You know stuff is ridiculous when the 16x19 is coming in with higher SW than the 18x20. Does anyone here have any experiences about hitting with a 327+ SW blade v8 18m?

All I’m reading is reviews about underspecc’d ones. Surely someone has something with a SW in the high 320’s to mid 330’s…?
 

jdx2112

Professional
You know stuff is ridiculous when the 16x19 is coming in with higher SW than the 18x20. Does anyone here have any experiences about hitting with a 327+ SW blade v8 18m?

All I’m reading is reviews about underspecc’d ones. Surely someone has something with a SW in the high 320’s to mid 330’s…?
Who knows? Wilson won’t even tell us what they think is the right SW.
 

AA7

Hall of Fame
You know stuff is ridiculous when the 16x19 is coming in with higher SW than the 18x20. Does anyone here have any experiences about hitting with a 327+ SW blade v8 18m?

All I’m reading is reviews about underspecc’d ones. Surely someone has something with a SW in the high 320’s to mid 330’s…?
This is all regards to 18m..

Yeah i have one that is 327.. it's very good. Very similar playability to v7 18m. Feel is different with more feedback and easier to move it around during the course of the match due to SW vs higher SW v7s etc... In my opinion it's exactly what you would expect from a drop in SW with compromises and advantages... You don't get quite the same plow but close enough. Easier to get more spin probably bc of lower SW than V7... But my v7s are also right around 329-333 so to me v7 and v8 are quite close. Again due to higher SW, v7 probably easier and more effective when flattening the ball. I like the PJ in v8 better. Feedback is subjective.. probably v8 is more feedback and crisp if you like that in your feel.

There is one thing that Wilson tried to do i think that RA does not tell you. They did stiffen the hoop. They had to.. they can't just lower the SW and not decrease the dwell time..or else the racket will become ineffective for club players.. so the ball does spend less time on the racket. Less pocketing then v7.. this is how they tried to keep the power similar at medium racket head speeds..I said it before. I think they delivered what most wanted.. you want more plow and more pocketing, then stick with V7.. if you always wished blade was slightly less SW then play V8.
 

1HBHfanatic

Legend
Actually it’s terrible. I’ve had it for two weeks and it’s already more beat up than my prestiges I’ve been hitting with since 2013. Scratches and chips all over. Granted, I put it through the wringer, with lots of defensive pick ups.
-agree here
-looks like the paint is a little thin
-i not hard on my racquets, but ive already seen/developed a few paint chips
-still a good stick though
-i hope wilson addresses this on coming generations
 

1HBHfanatic

Legend
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There is one thing that Wilson tried to do i think that RA does not tell you. They did stiffen the hoop. They had to.. they can't just lower the SW and not decrease the dwell time..or else the racket will become ineffective for club players.. so the ball does spend less time on the racket. Less pocketing then v7.. this is how they tried to keep the power similar at medium racket head speeds..I said it before. I think they delivered what most wanted.. you want more plow and more pocketing, then stick with V7.. if you always wished blade was slightly less SW then play V8.
(y)
-the v6s with countervail had the most plow through
-the v7s became easier to use
-the v8s are even faster and easier to use
 
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This is all regards to 18m..

Yeah i have one that is 327.. it's very good. Very similar playability to v7 18m. Feel is different with more feedback and easier to move it around during the course of the match due to SW vs higher SW v7s etc... In my opinion it's exactly what you would expect from a drop in SW with compromises and advantages... You don't get quite the same plow but close enough. Easier to get more spin probably bc of lower SW than V7... But my v7s are also right around 329-333 so to me v7 and v8 are quite close. Again due to higher SW, v7 probably easier and more effective when flattening the ball. I like the PJ in v8 better. Feedback is subjective.. probably v8 is more feedback and crisp if you like that in your feel.

There is one thing that Wilson tried to do i think that RA does not tell you. They did stiffen the hoop. They had to.. they can't just lower the SW and not decrease the dwell time..or else the racket will become ineffective for club players.. so the ball does spend less time on the racket. Less pocketing then v7.. this is how they tried to keep the power similar at medium racket head speeds..I said it before. I think they delivered what most wanted.. you want more plow and more pocketing, then stick with V7.. if you always wished blade was slightly less SW then play V8.
Lovely, thanks mate! This was really helpful. So am I right in thinking that if someone were to get an overspec’d V8 with a SW of 330 and compare that with a v7 18m with 330 SW, it would have more power due to the same SW & stiffer hoop? So it would essentially be a crisper feeling, slightly more powerful v7? Only if the SW is the same of course. The manoeuvrability advantage would be negligible at the same SW.
 
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AA7

Hall of Fame
Lovely, thanks mate! This was really helpful. So am I right in thinking that if someone were to get an overspec’d V8 with a SW of 330 and compare that with a v7 18m with 330 SW, it would have more power due to the same SW & stiffer hoop? So it would essentially be a crisper feeling, slightly more powerful v7? Only if the SW is the same of course. The manoeuvrability advantage would be negligible at the same SW.
Yes. I think so...if you have them same SW i would imagine v8 would be more powerful. but keep in mind control should be slightly better with v7.. bc you have a little bit more pocketing. I guess it depends on how you get control.. you will have a split second more to redirect on v7.. balls leaves the stringbed a bit more immediately in v8 and that is in the layup so that is one thing that can't really be changed whule all other specs can be matched . I think that is the most fundamental difference between the 2 rackets.
 

jdx2112

Professional
This is all regards to 18m..

Yeah i have one that is 327.. it's very good. Very similar playability to v7 18m. Feel is different with more feedback and easier to move it around during the course of the match due to SW vs higher SW v7s etc... In my opinion it's exactly what you would expect from a drop in SW with compromises and advantages... You don't get quite the same plow but close enough. Easier to get more spin probably bc of lower SW than V7... But my v7s are also right around 329-333 so to me v7 and v8 are quite close. Again due to higher SW, v7 probably easier and more effective when flattening the ball. I like the PJ in v8 better. Feedback is subjective.. probably v8 is more feedback and crisp if you like that in your feel.

There is one thing that Wilson tried to do i think that RA does not tell you. They did stiffen the hoop. They had to.. they can't just lower the SW and not decrease the dwell time..or else the racket will become ineffective for club players.. so the ball does spend less time on the racket. Less pocketing then v7.. this is how they tried to keep the power similar at medium racket head speeds..I said it before. I think they delivered what most wanted.. you want more plow and more pocketing, then stick with V7.. if you always wished blade was slightly less SW then play V8.
And that is ultimately what the 45/flex feel tech lets them do…firm up spots without stiffenifnbthe entire racquet…it’s a great application of the clash tech
 

tx10is

New User
This is all regards to 18m..

Yeah i have one that is 327.. it's very good. Very similar playability to v7 18m. Feel is different with more feedback and easier to move it around during the course of the match due to SW vs higher SW v7s etc... In my opinion it's exactly what you would expect from a drop in SW with compromises and advantages... You don't get quite the same plow but close enough. Easier to get more spin probably bc of lower SW than V7... But my v7s are also right around 329-333 so to me v7 and v8 are quite close. Again due to higher SW, v7 probably easier and more effective when flattening the ball. I like the PJ in v8 better. Feedback is subjective.. probably v8 is more feedback and crisp if you like that in your feel.

There is one thing that Wilson tried to do i think that RA does not tell you. They did stiffen the hoop. They had to.. they can't just lower the SW and not decrease the dwell time..or else the racket will become ineffective for club players.. so the ball does spend less time on the racket. Less pocketing then v7.. this is how they tried to keep the power similar at medium racket head speeds..I said it before. I think they delivered what most wanted.. you want more plow and more pocketing, then stick with V7.. if you always wished blade was slightly less SW then play V8.
good description. this is pretty much my experience also. The only thing else I would add would be the different butt caps. It took me a minute to get use to v8 one, but that probably depends on the way you personally grip the racquet.
 
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Yes. I think so...if you have them same SW i would imagine v8 would be more powerful. but keep in mind control should be slightly better with v7.. bc you have a little bit more pocketing. I guess it depends on how you get control.. you will have a split second more to redirect on v7.. balls leaves the stringbed a bit more immediately in v8 and that is in the layup so that is one thing that can't really be changed whule all other specs can be matched . I think that is the most fundamental difference between the 2 rackets.
Amazing. Thanks a bunch :giggle: I wish we could pin or highlight this post (and your previous one too). I’m assuming there are a lot of people who wonder exactly how v7 and v8 differ when spec’d similar, and this describes it perfectly. Comparisons between under-spec’d v8’s and on-spec v7’s are, in my opinion, meaningless. When comparing two generations of the same stick, both should be spec’d as close as possible. Unfortunately Wilson QC is making this hard with the new V8, but the point stands nevertheless.
 
So 6 measured V8 18x20. Not happy with that swingwright. Will ask them to measure 6 more or see if they have some sort of racket modification service. Would like a SW between 298 & 303. If they can’t do that I will stick to V7.
RacketWeightSwingweightBalanceStiffness
1​
307,1​
289​
32,2​
65​
2​
306,5​
290​
32​
65​
3​
308,8​
284​
31,8​
64​
4​
308,8​
287​
31,9​
65​
5​
307,8​
292​
31,1​
66​
6​
309,2​
285​
31,5​
65​
 

nyc

Hall of Fame
They do have a customization service. You can have a racquet matched to your target specs for $20, I believe.
 

nyc

Hall of Fame
But also sounds like slapping on a little tungsten tape will do the trick for you. It’s pretty easy to match your sticks if you’re starting below target spec.
 

emaz8724

Rookie
So 6 measured V8 18x20. Not happy with that swingwright. Will ask them to measure 6 more or see if they have some sort of racket modification service. Would like a SW between 298 & 303. If they can’t do that I will stick to V7.
RacketWeightSwingweightBalanceStiffness
1​
307,1​
289​
32,2​
65​
2​
306,5​
290​
32​
65​
3​
308,8​
284​
31,8​
64​
4​
308,8​
287​
31,9​
65​
5​
307,8​
292​
31,1​
66​
6​
309,2​
285​
31,5​
65​
:sick: Terrible sw qc. Bummer to deal with
 
So 6 measured V8 18x20. Not happy with that swingwright. Will ask them to measure 6 more or see if they have some sort of racket modification service. Would like a SW between 298 & 303. If they can’t do that I will stick to V7.
RacketWeightSwingweightBalanceStiffness
1​
307,1​
289​
32,2​
65​
2​
306,5​
290​
32​
65​
3​
308,8​
284​
31,8​
64​
4​
308,8​
287​
31,9​
65​
5​
307,8​
292​
31,1​
66​
6​
309,2​
285​
31,5​
65​
What I'm surprised more with is the stiffness. They all are stiffer than spec. Is this TWE or US?
 

DJTaurus

Hall of Fame
So 6 measured V8 18x20. Not happy with that swingwright. Will ask them to measure 6 more or see if they have some sort of racket modification service. Would like a SW between 298 & 303. If they can’t do that I will stick to V7.
RacketWeightSwingweightBalanceStiffness
1​
307,1​
289​
32,2​
65​
2​
306,5​
290​
32​
65​
3​
308,8​
284​
31,8​
64​
4​
308,8​
287​
31,9​
65​
5​
307,8​
292​
31,1​
66​
6​
309,2​
285​
31,5​
65​
Only number 5. You are not far away with that. It’s also 305gr if you remove the plastic wrap on the handle. The ideal will be a SW of 297. If you can afford pay extra for a new matching.
 
Only number 5. You are not far away with that. It’s also 305gr if you remove the plastic wrap on the handle. The ideal will be a SW of 297. If you can afford pay extra for a new matching.
Yes that’s what I’ll ask them. For reference my v7 18m unstrung was:

SW - 302
Balance -32.5 cm
Weight - 310.5 g
Stiffness - 61 RA
 

lidoazndiabloboi

Hall of Fame
Yes that’s what I’ll ask them. For reference my v7 18m unstrung was:

SW - 302
Balance -32.5 cm
Weight - 310.5 g
Stiffness - 61 RA
If those are the unstrung uncustomized specs, then your racket was on the very head heavy side, as you can see from the balance being more by 0.5cm. So you would definitely want to search for a racket that is as head heavy as possible, to get your ideal SW.
Now if you took the #2 racket, and added about 4 grams of lead at 12 o clock, you would get specs very similar to what you want. It would be approx. 310.5 g, 32.4cm SW303. Also racket #1, if you add 4 grams at 12, it would be 311.1g, 32.6cm, SW 302. So both rackets can be slightly customized to fit your desired specs. The other racket 3-6 are more difficult to customize to your spec, so I would not recommend them.

And just for reference, my v8 Blade was super headlight, at 304g, 31.45cm, SW284.
 

DJTaurus

Hall of Fame
Don’t make the mistake to drop your V8. It’s chips like crazy. I love it’s PJ but it’s literally cr…p. Like painted with tooth paste. I haven’t experienced sth similar with no other racquet not only Blades. Greedy Wilson…. we have to deal not only with QC but now also with this.
 
If those are the unstrung uncustomized specs, then your racket was on the very head heavy side, as you can see from the balance being more by 0.5cm. So you would definitely want to search for a racket that is as head heavy as possible, to get your ideal SW.
Now if you took the #2 racket, and added about 4 grams of lead at 12 o clock, you would get specs very similar to what you want. It would be approx. 310.5 g, 32.4cm SW303. Also racket #1, if you add 4 grams at 12, it would be 311.1g, 32.6cm, SW 302. So both rackets can be slightly customized to fit your desired specs. The other racket 3-6 are more difficult to customize to your spec, so I would not recommend them.

And just for reference, my v8 Blade was super headlight, at 304g, 31.45cm, SW284.
Yeah I'll think about it. I mean I have since added weight to the handle of my V7 (I think 4/5 grams) to make it more headlight for better maneuverability. But yeah, I will have to see.
 

tx10is

New User
Yeah I'll think about it. I mean I have since added weight to the handle of my V7 (I think 4/5 grams) to make it more headlight for better maneuverability. But yeah, I will have to see.
then #5 for sure if you added weight to your v7 to make it more HL. You can always add lead for more SW. It may be hard to find a v8 with 302sw unstrung since wilson reduced sw on v8. My 18m v8 sw was 295un and 328strung and it plays good although I like my BP v8 better.
 
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Review is up: https://www.tennis-warehouse.com/learning_center/racquet_reviews/20BV8Sreview.html

I’m really confused about the flex rating. They are saying 60, with the v7 being 62 in their review. I’m not sure if those are strung or unstrung specs because the v8s were coming in at 65/66 unstrung and the v7 I have was 61 unstrung. It got demolished on the power rating and was lower than v7 in pretty much every category except manoeuvrability
 
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DJTaurus

Hall of Fame
Review is up: https://www.tennis-warehouse.com/learning_center/racquet_reviews/20BV8Sreview.html

I’m really confused about the flex rating. They are saying 60, with the v7 being 62 in their review. I’m not sure if those are strung or unstrung specs because the v8s were coming in at 65/66 unstrung and the v7 I have was 61 unstrung. It got demolished on the power rating and was lower than v7 in pretty much every category except manoeuvrability
Numbers don’t tell the truth. V8 has definitely more free power than V7 but looses on stability (not by much) and plow. You just have to lead it up. Miles better when you have to deal with Wilson’s QC and you accidentally received a V7 with 340SW :p…. I prefer to receive an underspec stick than an over…
 

StanAO14

Rookie
So 6 measured V8 18x20. Not happy with that swingwright. Will ask them to measure 6 more or see if they have some sort of racket modification service. Would like a SW between 298 & 303. If they can’t do that I will stick to V7.
RacketWeightSwingweightBalanceStiffness
1​
307,1​
289​
32,2​
65​
2​
306,5​
290​
32​
65​
3​
308,8​
284​
31,8​
64​
4​
308,8​
287​
31,9​
65​
5​
307,8​
292​
31,1​
66​
6​
309,2​
285​
31,5​
65​
Pretty weird the one with the lowest balance has the highest swingweight. And balance raming from 31,1 to 32,2o_O
 

AA7

Hall of Fame
Review is up: https://www.tennis-warehouse.com/learning_center/racquet_reviews/20BV8Sreview.html

I’m really confused about the flex rating. They are saying 60, with the v7 being 62 in their review. I’m not sure if those are strung or unstrung specs because the v8s were coming in at 65/66 unstrung and the v7 I have was 61 unstrung. It got demolished on the power rating and was lower than v7 in pretty much every category except manoeuvrability
Couple of things...
RA mostly catching flex in the throat.. as i was saying before.. you can so called "cheat" RA if hoop is stiffer vs throat etc.. so numbers really don't tell everything. Having said that i think you have the measured RAs.. those sound right and the stick plays more in line with your measured ones and not like 60...
In US i can specify my target spec and they try and find the closest one to that. I guess Europe is trying to find you sticks with closest to each other regardless of the desired spec . Weird.. all the ones you had measured are quite low.. can you tell them you are looking for 295+ unstrung SW and you pretty much don't really care other specs?
 

tim-ay

Hall of Fame
:sick: Terrible sw qc. Bummer to deal with
To be fair, the difference between the lowest and highest is 2g @ 12. Thats decent process control. And I can match any of those to my spec in a very short time.

Edit: there is probably more variability in how people measure SW. 1mm difference in racket / handle placement is ~0.75 SW. As long as something is not way way out of nominal spec, you can get it to what you want in a few min. I damn sure wouldn’t trust a tech at a warehouse to be as meticulous as the faith in those numbers is being implied on this thread.
 
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tim-ay

Hall of Fame
Pretty weird the one with the lowest balance has the highest swingweight. And balance raming from 31,1 to 32,2o_O
This is a far bigger issue than the SW differences. That balance difference is a ton of weight. But measurement error could easily play a part here also.
 
Couple of things...
RA mostly catching flex in the throat.. as i was saying before.. you can so called "cheat" RA if hoop is stiffer vs throat etc.. so numbers really don't tell everything. Having said that i think you have the measured RAs.. those sound right and the stick plays more in line with your measured ones and not like 60...
In US i can specify my target spec and they try and find the closest one to that. I guess Europe is trying to find you sticks with closest to each other regardless of the desired spec . Weird.. all the ones you had measured are quite low.. can you tell them you are looking for 295+ unstrung SW and you pretty much don't really care other specs?
Yeah in Europe they don't have that service. When you pay 20€ for the measure service, they choose 6 rackets at random and just measure the specs. Unfortunately those 6 were the last they have in my size of the V8 18x20, but its no big deal. With options 1 and 2, only 3-4 grams of lead at 12 will bring it to my unstrung v7 specs of 302 SW and roughly 32.5 balance. I have lead at home so it should be ok. I will then just add some lead to the handle to make them more maneuverable. Option 5 is also nice with the highest SW and stiffness (and more headlight balance closer to my specs after weight at 12 and then the handle), but nothing else comes close to matching, and I doubt there is a big difference between 1 RA stiffness point.

Just to be sure, I have also asked tennispro to measure 5 * 18x20 for me. I will post their results on here too when I get them.
 
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