Blu-Ray vs. HD

Shahar26

Rookie
Can't we all just get along?

There's a player out there that plays both formats....

Not to be a party popper, but who needs to choose.....
 

Cheez-It

New User
Both will be relegated to relatively niche markets as compared to DVD's, due to lackluster improvements over DVD and strong alternative offerings (apart from competing formats, you have massive bandwith increases around the world, leading to solid content delivery systems and other technologies that are in direct competition with optical HD media.)

Jester: google it. or www.doom9.org for more info.
 

Caswell

Semi-Pro
Right now it's really a moot point which is "better". Neither is anything more than a niche product - combined Blu-Ray and HD-DVD sales are still less than 1% of sales compared to plain old DVD.

I own a very nice 42" 720p / 1080i plasma, and a quality DVD transfer (Star Wars Ep II & III come to mind) look fantastic when upscaled. Definately good enough that my desire to purchase a $300-$500 player and then pay a $5 premium for new releases and a much higher premium for catalog titles is nonexsitant.
 

edberg505

Legend
I don't think it will cost much more than the already expensive HD-DVD or Blue-Ray.....

You are partly right, it's much more expensive than HD DVD players(200-500 bucks) but just slightly more than the blu-ray player(somewhere in the 800-1000 dollar range). But the combo player retails for about 1200 or so.
 

beernutz

Hall of Fame
I love my Toshiba A1 HD DVD player (just over $300) which I've had for almost a year now. It upscales very nicely and HD looks incredible. There was no way I was paying >$1000 for the Samsung BR player which looks in hindsight like a good move due to the QC problems that one had when introduced.
 

tennis_hand

Hall of Fame
it will only matter when the cost comes down together with HDTVs.
right now, i don't even have a DVD player. I don't watch them. DVDs are still not cheap enough here. and my small tv doesn't mean anything, DVD or HD/blueray
 

armand

Banned
Wow interesting stuff, even though I don't understand much of it.

Can anyone dumb it down a notch for me? Gimme the basics of the basics?

Lemme see if I got it right: Someone found a way to crack the code(either legally or illegally) into HD-DVDs so that they can be opened and bootlegged?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...rontpage_before_rose_blog_post_screenshot.pngfascinating stuff, how'd I miss all this?
 

Pete.Sampras.

Semi-Pro
I heard that "bluray:hd-dvd" is like "9:1" in sales lately, not sure if it's true...

Anyway, I will support bluray. I think it's better than hd-dvd ;)
 

tennis_hand

Hall of Fame
if u hate movie companies such as sony, disney, u'll like HD. if u hate IT companies such as MS, intel, u'll like Blueray.

Blueray should have better sales because of the titles released on it. those media companies have the rights to their movies.
 

35ft6

Legend
Heard Blu-Ray is winning.

A true 1080 BR DVD being played on a 1080p TV with a true 1080p input chip is stunning. Saw Batman Begins on a 1080p system at Circuit City that was true 1080p all the way to the screen and it was absolutely incredible. Maybe I saw the slightest bit of artifacts during some of the MOST frenetic scenes, but trivial. A significant improvement over DVD, upscaled onto HD or otherwise.

But the upscaling DVD's really drive home how important progressive scan is. Still, the upscaled DVD's I watch on 720p plasma is noticeably inferior to my friend's BR DVD's played on his PS3 into his Vizio 1080i screen. On a true 1080p TV, it would look even better.

TV shows going from SD to HD is a/an difference/improvement on par with going from VHS to DVD. From 720p to 1080p is not nearly as huge, but the new HDMI 1.3 is supposed to be a huge leap forward in terms of audio.
 

beernutz

Hall of Fame
I heard that "bluray:hd-dvd" is like "9:1" in sales lately, not sure if it's true...

Anyway, I will support bluray. I think it's better than hd-dvd ;)

I think this year the ratio is more like 2:1 in favor of bluray, however, there were probably twice as many releases in BR format as there were in HDDVD which explains some of the sales difference.
 

fishuuuuu

Hall of Fame
Wow interesting stuff, even though I don't understand much of it.

Can anyone dumb it down a notch for me? Gimme the basics of the basics?

Lemme see if I got it right: Someone found a way to crack the code(either legally or illegally) into HD-DVDs so that they can be opened and bootlegged?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...rontpage_before_rose_blog_post_screenshot.pngfascinating stuff, how'd I miss all this?

In a nutshell yes. The number represents a hexidecimal series of numbers that allow for previous DRM protections to work, which of course can now be cheerfully disregarded by pirates and enthusiasts alike.
 

ben_friendz

New User
Bluray is actually the better format as the disc can hold much more information than the HDDVD. Meaning higher quality images can be stored on them. Some say no as the HDDVD can be dual layered and hold more. Well so can the Bluray. Plus what sounds cooler HDDVD or Bluray.
 

Court_Jester

Hall of Fame
On paper, Blu-Ray is a technically superior with its higher capacity and hence more detailed videos and audio. However, this comes at a cost. Blu-Ray equipment tend to be more expensive. On the other hand, HD-DVD is based closely on the current DVD technology, which means the equipment won't cost as much to make since shifting to HD-DVD will not require a major overhaul to their manufacturing process unlike Blu-ray.
 

alan-n

Professional
You really need a 1080P HDTV set, the "chip" projection based HDTVs are nice, affordable and energy friendly for these sizes of HDTVs. Blue Ray looks like it will win the format war with heavy weights such as Disney in the Blue Ray corner. Surprisingly the best Blue Ray player for the money is the PS3, and the PS3 plays movies with a remote that you would expect from a video player rather than a game system.
 

Mad iX

Semi-Pro
I already had a 360 so I got the HD-DVD drive to try it out. Looks way better than upscaled dvd.
I have a 42" that does 720p/1080i so I don't know if the 360 does 1080p. I doubt there'd be much difference from my couch.
 

emcee

Semi-Pro
I've heard that 360 doesn't output true 1080.

Yeah I think it only goes to 1080i?

I think Blu-Ray has a leg up because of PS3. Sure not too many people have it, but more than the people who bought the HD-DVD periph for the 360...
 

Lakoste

Professional
The main reason I would pick Blu-Ray over HD-DVD is that Blu-Ray has tons more movies out, compared to HD-DVD.

no. x360 doesn't do 1080p.

Yes. x360 does do 1080p. Either through the VGA port on the Core/Premium models or through the HDMI port on the Elite model.
 

Rabbit

G.O.A.T.
I was listening to a news channel on XM the other day and they said that HD was probably going to win because BluRay doesn't support adult films.

Anybody else remember Beta?
 

gamerx52986

Rookie
I've got both a hd-dvd and blu-ray player. Actually I'm on my second blu-ray player as I sold my first release Samsung player. So I have the first gen Toshiba Hd-A1 for hd-dvd and the newly released Panasonic blu-ray. Right now as long as both formats have exclusive movies, I couldn't be happier. For watching regular dvd's I use the Toshiba as it upscales better in my opinion. As for future releases...blu-ray is getting more newer release movies it seems. Another thing killing hd-dvd is the darn combo disc that some manufacturers use. Basically the hd-dvd on side a and dvd version on side b of the disc. Ends up being $5-$10 higher than a normal hd-dvd which sucks as I'll never watch the dvd version.
 
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