Blue Gear users, clarify something for me.

Ripper

Hall of Fame
How long does it take for the texture to start smoothening out due to the friction with the ball? In other words, after how long do you start to feel a decrease in ball bite?
 

Ballmachine

Semi-Pro
I use the blue gear in the mains with Wilson sensation in the crosses. I always break the sensation first, but the blue gear remains intact, and it never loses its texture or a decrease in ball bite.

Incidentally, if anyone has a reel of 1.25 Blue Gear that they are willing to sell for about $80 shipped, please email me at ballmachine@hotmail.com.
 

Ripper

Hall of Fame
I use the blue gear in the mains with Wilson sensation in the crosses. I always break the sensation first, but the blue gear remains intact, and it never loses its texture or a decrease in ball bite.
Never? Come on. The sharpness has to wear off. Maybe you're breaking the Sensation before you can notice this. How long does it take you to break them?
 

Pusher

Professional
Never? Come on. The sharpness has to wear off. Maybe you're breaking the Sensation before you can notice this. How long does it take you to break them?

Ripper,

Blue Gear has very pronounced edges and they will wear down pretty quick. Of course, as you know, it depends on the player.
 

jonolau

Legend
It's usually the crosses in a full Blue Gear setup that are worn flat. Never really seen problems with the mains.
 

PED

Legend
Mine wore through fairly quickly, but it was not a problem. I still got plenty of spin on the 16g even after it wore down. When I used the 17g, i only had it in for a week or so before I cut it out so I can't comment on the longevity there.
 

Bud

Bionic Poster
It's usually the crosses in a full Blue Gear setup that are worn flat. Never really seen problems with the mains.
Isn't it pointless to use the BG in a full setup? On the crosses, the teeth are running parallel to the racquet (as it strikes the ball). It seems that's why they are wearing down quickly. Wouldn't it make more sense to use a non-textured poly, that's comparably stiff to blue gear... like Poly Polar (blue also)?
 

mattyc

Rookie
i played with blue gear, snapped a string within 2 hrs. same thing happened in 4 string jobs.... weir because lots of my mates use it and think it is quite durable.


people that think it is pointless having textured string on the crosses are completely mistaken. Both mains and crosses benefit from textured surface. More grooves on stringbed = more friction regardless of their direction.


I would also like to point out an important difference between the effect of blue gear and my preferred string msv hex.


blue gear string def increases spin, but i find that you notice its effects as the ball is descending on your opponent's side of the court. I makes the ball dip violently very late.


i find with msv hex, there is also increased spin but you are able do impart a loopier flight path of the ball with a somewhat smoother dip at the end.

i would compare it to ten pin bowling. sometimes you throw the bowling ball out to the widest part of the lane and it arcs in, sometimes you bowl it in a very straight line and it curles in at the last second to hit the head pin.....


how much do you buy blue gear for in the US? in the uk it is £45 or $90
 

diredesire

Adjunct Moderator
I found that it wears down significantly in both directions in about 6 hours. I've got a bit of a windshield wiper forehand, so I don't brush strictly straight up on the back of the ball...

HTH
 

Bud

Bionic Poster
"people that think it is pointless having textured string on the crosses are completely mistaken. Both mains and crosses benefit from textured surface. More grooves on stringbed = more friction regardless of their direction."


Some sources say that string texture (or gear) makes no difference at all. I don't notice a whole lot of difference with textured string... be it 1/2 or a full set.
 

PED

Legend
kirbster

I found that the 16g gave me a much stiffer stringbed than the 17g. I use 17g for all my other strings, but when i used 17g in blue gear, it felt like i was hitting a beach ball. When I would flatten it out to put the ball away, it was not as firm as I would like it. I switched back to big ace and now all is right in my world :)
I really did like the 16g in blue gear however.
 

Ripper

Hall of Fame
kirbster

I found that the 16g gave me a much stiffer stringbed than the 17g. I use 17g for all my other strings, but when i used 17g in blue gear, it felt like i was hitting a beach ball. When I would flatten it out to put the ball away, it was not as firm as I would like it. I switched back to big ace and now all is right in my world :)
I really did like the 16g in blue gear however.
How about Blue Gear mains with Big Ace crosses. That's how I'm going to test them. I'll report back!
 

jonolau

Legend
How about Blue Gear mains with Big Ace crosses. That's how I'm going to test them. I'll report back!
That might be a nice setup because the slightly more comfort-oriented Big Ace will add some comfort to the stringbed. I'm not sure how discernable this difference will be, but look forward to your report!
 

PED

Legend
I've not used blue gear since the summer. I loved the 16g but HATED the 17g.

I was hitting today and had a chance to hit with the 16g again in a friend's stick. He had a K Zen strung with blue gear at 63. I usually string mine around 7 to 10 lbs less so I was a bit hesitant, but it was really nice.

The feel was crisp and the spin was really nice. I could really spin it up or drive it flat at will and you could hit some really nice angles. I was worried that 63 would be way too tight but it was comfy. I was surprised at how much I liked the Zen as well. I would not want to own it long term but you could really flick it. I think I may give blue gear another shot in a hybrid. The 17g turned me off so much but the 16g today was great :twisted:
(kevin, that's for you!)
 
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hawaii45

New User
I've not used blue gear since the summer. I loved the 16g but HATED the 17g.

I was hitting today and had a chance to hit with the 16g again in a friend's stick. He had a K Zen strung with blue gear at 63. I usually string mine around 7 to 10 lbs less so I was a bit hesitant, but it was really nice.

The feel was crisp and the spin was really nice. I could really spin it up or drive it flat at will and you could hit some really nice angles. I was worried that 63 would be way too tight but it was comfy. I was surprised at how much I liked the Zen as well. I would not want to own it long term but you could really flick it. I think I may give blue gear another shot in a hybrid. The 17g turned me off so much but the 16g today was great :twisted:
(kevin, that's for you!)
I wear the grooves of in about 4-6 hours on my rds 001 mid.

What wes so terrible about 17g vs. th 16g. I personally have onley used the 17 and I think it is one of the best polys around.
 

Kcraig

Professional
I've not used blue gear since the summer. I loved the 16g but HATED the 17g.

I was hitting today and had a chance to hit with the 16g again in a friend's stick. He had a K Zen strung with blue gear at 63. I usually string mine around 7 to 10 lbs less so I was a bit hesitant, but it was really nice.

The feel was crisp and the spin was really nice. I could really spin it up or drive it flat at will and you could hit some really nice angles. I was worried that 63 would be way too tight but it was comfy. I was surprised at how much I liked the Zen as well. I would not want to own it long term but you could really flick it. I think I may give blue gear another shot in a hybrid. The 17g turned me off so much but the 16g today was great :twisted:
(kevin, that's for you!)
PED--Glad you found the :twisted:!!!! Was the blue gear you hit with in a full setup? I finally got my pro supex grips, max touch and CP shipment in today--I took the Diablo with the BA/MT to restring with the CP/MT. I still like this setup, but may for kicks try the blue gear just so I can say I did. Knowing how the Diablo plays, what tensions would you recommend? Thanks--KC

PS--I love those Pro Supex GRIPS!! :-D
 

PED

Legend
I'm torn on what to tell you on tension as the diablo is flexible and can handle higher tension. I was really surprised at how good 63 felt. It was a full job and the kzen has a 71 flex rating, so I guess wonders never cease. I'd probably go 55 or 56 in the 16g, that's what I used in my aero back in July. I think you'll like it. If I try it again, I'll likely pair it up with maxim touch.

I think I'd really like to try it in the storm as it doesn't seem to generate spin quite as easily as the aero. I've got too many combos to try in the coming weeks...
 
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PED

Legend
Hawaii45, when I used the 17 instead of the 16, it felt like all the firmness went out of the string bed and I could put the ball away with a flat winner like i could with the 16. The phrase I always use is it felt like i was hitting a beach ball and could get no control at all. The 16 however was fantastic and I'll use it again. I still prefer the big ace overall
 

Kcraig

Professional
I'm torn on what to tell you on tension as the diablo is flexible and can handle higher tension. I was really surprised at how good 63 felt. It was a full job and the kzen has a 71 flex rating, so I guess wonders never cease. I'd probably go 55 or 56 in the 16g, that's what I used in my aero back in July. I think you'll like it. If I try it again, I'll likely pair it up with maxim touch.

I think I'd really like to try it in the storm as it doesn't seem to generate spin quite as easily as the aero. I've got too many combos to try in the coming weeks...
Thanks--I would probably look at the 16g crossed with PSG or even Titan at first just to test out since BG is $9.50--may not want to use the $7.00 cross. I think crossing polys with softer/more forgiving syn guts or multis is better for me cause I get better forgiveness on the off center shots and Lord knows I need all the help I can get. I may send one pack of CP back and exchange for a BG 16g just to try out--I feel like I am missing out on all the hype!:-?

Would probably go with something like BG 53/syn gut 56--mainly due to the cool temps. How is the tension maintence on Blue Gear??
 
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PED

Legend
I was surprised at how good it felt. BG was the 1st string i put into my apdc back in june and this reminded me how good it felt. Even when you are drilling the ball flat, it still gets enough spin to drop it. Very interesting string.
 

Kcraig

Professional
I was surprised at how good it felt. BG was the 1st string i put into my apdc back in june and this reminded me how good it felt. Even when you are drilling the ball flat, it still gets enough spin to drop it. Very interesting string.
Sorry to bug again, I understand that you have only played BG in a full setup, BUT, hypothetically speaking, do you think it plays better full or in a hybrid?? How is the forgiveness of it?

That is the one area that concerns me a bit--since I lost alot of forgiveness with the full TCS and serving sucked as well.:evil:
 

Kcraig

Professional
Sorry to bug again, I understand that you have only played BG in a full setup, BUT, hypothetically speaking, do you think it plays better full or in a hybrid?? How is the forgiveness of it?

That is the one area that concerns me a bit--since I lost alot of forgiveness with the full TCS and serving sucked as well.:evil:
sorry--anyone liking the BG in a hybrid-which cross are you using? Any exp with BG/Supex Titan setup? Thanks
 

PED

Legend
I think you should be able to serve well with BG. I've not used TCS but BG is nothing like it from the comments i've read on here. I think the hybrid would be nice as the softer cross would give you a bit more pocketing which I love and others may not.
 
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