Boeing 737 Max

[tennishabit]

The point isn't just that more people die in cars, because of course more cars are on the road at any given time.

Rather, by going for a flight for so and so long, you're still less likely to die than by driving the same amount of time (in general). So the its also true like-for-like -- you are simply safer in a plane versus a car.

the most accurate n logical way to compare is by per km per yr worldwide.

ie fatality rate for
air travel: x.xxxx/km.yr
automobile: x.xxxx/km.yr
railway: x.xxxx/km.yr
ferry: ...............
etcetc whatever..........blablabla, lolololol)))...............

seems by air will be the winner due to the mileage))..............

 

[Bartelby]

If you want to compare fatality rates you would really have to exclude commercial aircraft.

Comparing the safety record of a two hundred million dollar plane serviced by an army of technicians to a two thousand dollar car that runs on the smell of an oily rag is not really useful.

And planes really do fly in separate lanes in highways in the sky. They don't fly in crowded environments full of roundabouts, traffic lights, stop signs all monitored by one individual behind a wheel.

The last two Boeing crashes didn't even involve another plane and therein lies an important tale.

Even if we were to take small steps to improving safety along aviation lines, the cost of car travel will move out of the reach of many.

Air travel is safe because more money is spent on making it safe.

 

[Azure]

We feel more unsafe in an airplane simply because we are not in control. If I drive my car I still am in control of the accelerator and the break. It is silly to assume that there are no external factors but it is merely a psychological feeling that air travel is less safe. Another is certainty of death. There is certainty of death 30,000 ft above the ground. The same is not true in a motor vehicle accident. The chances of survival in a fatal car crash are probably more than that of a fatal aeroplane crash.

 

[Otacon]

FAA: The crew of Southwest Airlines Flight 8701, a Boeing 737 MAX aircraft, declared an emergency after the aircraft experienced a reported engine problem while departing from Orlando International Airport in Florida about 2:50 p.m. today. No passengers were aboard.

 

[tennishabit]

FAA: The crew of Southwest Airlines Flight 8701, a Boeing 737 MAX aircraft, declared an emergency after the aircraft experienced a reported engine problem while departing from Orlando International Airport in Florida about 2:50 p.m. today. No passengers were aboard.

lolololol man........why flying empty:?)) testing:?)) any product even the worst 1 should have certain market share no matter how small dat'd b)).......

plenty suicidals n euthanasians popping up all the time, get them on board 4 free tripping around world, much better than diy their own n got bit $$ for being test dummies of boering max, as they'd get nothing if diy. if happen no crash, free trip around world b4 crash. wing-wing solution))..............

 

[dgold44]

It depends how high up you are. If something happens at 37,000 feet which causes a sudden loss of pressure, then you’ll likely be asphyxiated and not be conscious to suffer what happens next. In the case of the two recent crashes, it happened so early in the flight that even if it was a loss of cabin pressure, the altitude wouldn’t have been sufficient for this to happen.

Another Reason I utterly hate planes
Very reassuring

 

[dgold44]

Thank you MR President for ordering the grounding as you saved thousands

 

[Bartelby]

America was very late in grounding the planes and it was lax American regulations that killed two planes full of people, so your nauseating thank you is misplaced.

 

[tennishabit]

America was very late in grounding the planes and it was lax American regulations that killed two planes full of people, so your nauseating thank you is misplaced.

still, late better than never))...........

 

[Bartelby]

It's good indeed that it was done, but you deserve praise for acting quickly and not for following the crowd.

 

[Pete Player]

There’s been new information on the certification on the plane and airworthiness.

EASA and FAA had certified the modification conditionally requesting emergency procedures to be teached and practiced for cases the automatic system fails.

That education was never given, and the feature and means to switch the system off was not added to the pilot’s manual.

There may be severe consequenses for such neglection. Few families have filed a lawsuit in the US against Boeing.

Also, after the first crash the airline had offered a deal for the families of deceased not to sue either the airline or Boeing.

What can you say, business is business.


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No more on pain meds - all contributed matter and anti-matter are still subject to disclaimer

 

[BlueB]

I was on the last Air Canada's Max 8 flight, before they got grounded. I didn't even know I was on one until I got my friends sms, after we landed...
Then, almost got stuck in California, because our return flight got canceled.

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[proracketeer]

Seems to be a software bug. This is what happens when software is not outsourced to India.

Bloomberg: Boeing's 737 Max Software Outsourced to $9-an-Hour Engineers.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-06-28/boeing-s-737-max-software-outsourced-to-9-an-hour-engineers

 

[movdqa]

Bloomberg: Boeing's 737 Max Software Outsourced to $9-an-Hour Engineers.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-06-28/boeing-s-737-max-software-outsourced-to-9-an-hour-engineers

Amazon is winning the bidding war in India. They were offering 50% raises to poach our employees there. The companies that bid more get the better employees.

 

[Lleytonstation]

That is my dream way of going.

Imagine the adrenaline.

About to go on a flight. If it starts going down and you don't hear from me, I want you to know, I was laughing at the irony of your quote as I go down. At least you will have given me a good laugh before I dies.

 

[Lleytonstation]

FAA: The crew of Southwest Airlines Flight 8701, a Boeing 737 MAX aircraft, declared an emergency after the aircraft experienced a reported engine problem while departing from Orlando International Airport in Florida about 2:50 p.m. today. No passengers were aboard.

FAA plays tennis and works with airliners? GOAT.

 

[Nostradamus]

should let google coders look at it. I am sure they can fix it

 

[Pete Player]

Intresting point of view, but could be the track record into the mishaps.

Miranda Devine: Eco Madness May Be The Reason For Disastrous Boeing 737 MAX Crash - The Global Warming Policy Forum (GWPF)

We need to know if safety considerations at Boeing took a back seat to producing a climate-friendly plane. When Swedish eco-pessimist Greta Thunberg came to New York to shout, “How dare you!” last month, she maintained her climate purity by traveling on a carbon-neutral, solar-powered yacht...

www.thegwpf.com

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[Bartelby]

Devine belongs to the lunar right and would find any convenient untruth to argue against climate policies.

Intresting point of view, but could be the track record into the mishaps.

Miranda Devine: Eco Madness May Be The Reason For Disastrous Boeing 737 MAX Crash - The Global Warming Policy Forum (GWPF)

We need to know if safety considerations at Boeing took a back seat to producing a climate-friendly plane. When Swedish eco-pessimist Greta Thunberg came to New York to shout, “How dare you!” last month, she maintained her climate purity by traveling on a carbon-neutral, solar-powered yacht...

www.thegwpf.com

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[gn]

People who tries to save lives risk losing their career while executives who puts passengers' lives in danger gets away without consequences.

‘Attempting to cover up’: 5 key findings by US senators after Boeing 737 Max crashes

According to the report, the staff of the US Senate Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation started receiving information from whistleblowers after the second 737 Max crash, detailing numerous concerns related to aviation safety.

www.hindustantimes.com

Boeing's 737 Max is a saga of capitalism gone awry

The company is an American icon. It helped usher in the age of commercial aviation and produced planes like the 747. Boeings World War II-era bombers were built in the factory where the Max was born. Boeing engineers helped NASA put men on the moon. The company builds Air Force One, the F-15...

economictimes.indiatimes.com

 

[Azure]

People who tries to save lives risk losing their career while executives who puts passengers' lives in danger gets away without consequences.

‘Attempting to cover up’: 5 key findings by US senators after Boeing 737 Max crashes

According to the report, the staff of the US Senate Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation started receiving information from whistleblowers after the second 737 Max crash, detailing numerous concerns related to aviation safety.

www.hindustantimes.com

Boeing's 737 Max is a saga of capitalism gone awry

The company is an American icon. It helped usher in the age of commercial aviation and produced planes like the 747. Boeings World War II-era bombers were built in the factory where the Max was born. Boeing engineers helped NASA put men on the moon. The company builds Air Force One, the F-15...

economictimes.indiatimes.com

Wow the second article is pretty telling. Corporate culture that prioritizes profits over everything else....

 

[Nostradamus]

they will give you upgrad to 1st class if you ask them for it. just in case it crashes