Bonjour from Babolat: Part Deux

[Babolat Official]

Bonjour,

The old thread had reached a size that was beginning to be a bit cumbersome, and the @TW Staff moderators have been very gracious to allow me to start a new thread.

My name is Mansoor, and I work for Babolat. Many of you interacted with this handle while Daniel was running it, and it has since been transferred to me (Don't worry, Daniel is still with Babolat!).

I actually am a once active member of the forums. I went under the handle of Mansewerz, though that account has not seen activity in some time now. Nevertheless, I am excited to be back in the midst of my fellow tennis enthusiasts!

We at Babolat love how passionate and excited the community on this forum is. From debating tennis rackets to discussing your favorite vibe dampeners, we know that we can count on you all to keep our sport alive and growing.

Like my predecessor, I am not here to sell you Babolat product. Some people love Babolat, and some people don’t. Instead, I am here to serve as an informational resource for you all. While I may not have all of the answers off of the top of my head, I will do my best to get them for you from the relevant teams (i.e. warranty, products, etc). If you have any Babolat product questions, feel free to shoot me an e-mail at: msafi@babolat.com

Here’s a bit of my tennis background...
Playing Experience: Began playing at 15, played high school tennis, currently looking to join USTA leagues
Play Style: Aggressive baseliner looking to finish the point at net, Semiwestern forehand, 2HBH
Current Set-up: Pure Control Tour with 2 grams of lead at 9 & 3, Babolat VS Touch @ 56 lbs, grip 3 no overgrip

Racket History:
- Yonex RDX500 MP, Gosen OG Micro 16 g @ 60 lbs
- Fischer Pro Number One, Gosen OG Micro 16 g @ 60 lbs
- Head Flexpoint Radical Tour, Gosen OG Micro 16 g @ 57 lbs
- Dunlop Aerogel 100 w/Leather grip, Gosen OG Micro 16g @ 54 lbs
- Volkl C10 Pro (stock), Gosen OG Micro 16 g @ 55 lbs
- Volkl C10 Pro (9 grams at 9 and 3), Gosen OG Micro 16g @ 54 lbs
- Wilson KSix One Tour 90, Pacific Classic Gut 16L @54 (mains), MSV CoFocus 17L @ 52 (crosses)
- Volkl C10 Pro (stock), Pacific Classic Gut 16L @54 (mains), MSV CoFocus 17L @52 (crosses)
- Volkl C10 Pro (stock), Tourna Big Hitter Blue @55 lbs (mains), Gosen OG Micro 16g @ 57 lbs (crosses)
- Babolat Pure Drive GT Play (2014), Babolat Xcel @ 57 lbs
- Babolat Pure Aero, RPM Blast @ 47 lbs
- Babolat Pure Aero, M7 @58 lbs


I know that there is a great deal of speculation, theories, product discussion, and history on these forums, which is awesome! In fact, I myself learned a great deal while a member of these forums thanks to very informed community members like yourselves. You are all an incredibly active and informed community, and I think it is safe to say that you all helped me deepen my love for this sport. I will help this community in any way that I can.

And while we're at it, here's some fun facts about me
-Recently graduated Duke University (and enjoyed watching the Blue Devils beat UNC on their home turf last night )
-Big fan of weight training to complement my tennis game
-Go to shot is either Kicker out wide on the Ad court or forehand shank that lands in every time


Also, here is the original "Bonjour from Babolat" thread for easy references:
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/bonjour-from-babolat.447810/page-112

 

[Anton]

Welcome back.

Pure Control Tour is quite a nice frame - any clues as to where Babolat will take that line from here?

 

[v-verb]

welcome back too!

any possibility of that stealth Pure Aero PJ becoming a reality Mansoor?

 

[g4driver]

You went to Duke ?

Brother I don't believe I would told that. hahahaha - What did UNC turn you down ?

I am just kidding you- welcome back and tough game last night. Congrats on the win.

I have friends at both places, and love the rivalry. Been a Tar Heel Fan since Jordan was there.

Q: see you use gosen micro quite a bit- how's M7 ? What is the closest string that you can compare it to. I have a few free packs just not sure who to use it on.

 

[Nostradamus]

Dear babolat.
Is this shoe as good as advertised ? But what about the cushioning ?? I need Babolat to put in cushioning that returns energy in explosive Way like Powercushion does. but so far all the new shoes does not do that....

http://www.tennisindustrymag.com/news/2016/02/babolat_jet_sets_the_pace_in_f.html

 

[n8dawg6]

i like that absurd topspin forehand shank too. the mishit is the greatest shot in the game.

 

[gino]

@Babolat Official welcome back. Hope you can continue to foster a healthy relationship between the Talk Tennis community and Babolat corporate. Would love to hear what Babolat plans to do with the Pure Strike/Pure Control line going forward. What's the plan for the merge? What head sizes will stick around? How flexible will the new line be? Will Babolat still use the "flex carbon" material if the Pure Control line no longer exists? A Pure Aero with a stealth black PJ is an awesome concept!

Thanks again

 

[Minion]

I like Babolat, their racquets make me feel all warm n fuzzy inside

 

[parasailing]

Are they any plans on bringing out any new tennis bags or special edition ones for French or Wimbledon?

 

[ReopeningWed]

I started playing tennis at fifteen as well, and I have yet to join a USTA league but I can't stop thinking about it. The biggest question is, at what point do I say I can jump into the leagues, or do I keep telling myself that I can train more?

 

[Zoolander]

I went under the handle of Mansewerz

"Mansewerz"?? Wow, I dont want to know!

Wonder if you could leak some classified Babolat info and tell me how Babolat has changed over the last 20 years since they started out (appreciate it was before your time there) regarding the supply/quality of their carbon fibre used in tennis racquets. Many players remember the feel of early pure drives etc and bemoan the changes in racquet construction that make more modern racquets feel more stiff and hollow, even if their weight/specs are similar to the old ones. Is this in our heads, or have there been changes to the composition of graphite/ layups and production methods used over the years that result in this change? Promise i wont tell your competitors!

 

[odessouky]

Bonjour,

The old thread had reached a size that was beginning to be a bit cumbersome, and the @TW Staff moderators have been very gracious to allow me to start a new thread.

My name is Mansoor, and I work for Babolat. Many of you interacted with this handle while Daniel was running it, and it has since been transferred to me (Don't worry, Daniel is still with Babolat!).

I actually am a once active member of the forums. I went under the handle of Mansewerz, though that account has not seen activity in some time now. Nevertheless, I am excited to be back in the midst of my fellow tennis enthusiasts!

We at Babolat love how passionate and excited the community on this forum is. From debating tennis rackets to discussing your favorite vibe dampeners, we know that we can count on you all to keep our sport alive and growing.

Like my predecessor, I am not here to sell you Babolat product. Some people love Babolat, and some people don’t. Instead, I am here to serve as an informational resource for you all. While I may not have all of the answers off of the top of my head, I will do my best to get them for you from the relevant teams (i.e. warranty, products, etc). If you have any Babolat product questions, feel free to shoot me an e-mail at: msafi@babolat.com

Here’s a bit of my tennis background...
Playing Experience: Began playing at 15, played high school tennis, currently looking to join USTA leagues
Play Style: Aggressive baseliner looking to finish the point at net, Semiwestern forehand, 2HBH
Current Set-up: Pure Control Tour with 2 grams of lead at 9 & 3, Babolat VS Touch @ 56 lbs, grip 3 no overgrip

Racket History:
- Yonex RDX500 MP, Gosen OG Micro 16 g @ 60 lbs
- Fischer Pro Number One, Gosen OG Micro 16 g @ 60 lbs
- Head Flexpoint Radical Tour, Gosen OG Micro 16 g @ 57 lbs
- Dunlop Aerogel 100 w/Leather grip, Gosen OG Micro 16g @ 54 lbs
- Volkl C10 Pro (stock), Gosen OG Micro 16 g @ 55 lbs
- Volkl C10 Pro (9 grams at 9 and 3), Gosen OG Micro 16g @ 54 lbs
- Wilson KSix One Tour 90, Pacific Classic Gut 16L @54 (mains), MSV CoFocus 17L @ 52 (crosses)
- Volkl C10 Pro (stock), Pacific Classic Gut 16L @54 (mains), MSV CoFocus 17L @52 (crosses)
- Volkl C10 Pro (stock), Tourna Big Hitter Blue @55 lbs (mains), Gosen OG Micro 16g @ 57 lbs (crosses)
- Babolat Pure Drive GT Play (2014), Babolat Xcel @ 57 lbs
- Babolat Pure Aero, RPM Blast @ 47 lbs
- Babolat Pure Aero, M7 @58 lbs


I know that there is a great deal of speculation, theories, product discussion, and history on these forums, which is awesome! In fact, I myself learned a great deal while a member of these forums thanks to very informed community members like yourselves. You are all an incredibly active and informed community, and I think it is safe to say that you all helped me deepen my love for this sport. I will help this community in any way that I can.

And while we're at it, here's some fun facts about me
-Recently graduated Duke University (and enjoyed watching the Blue Devils beat UNC on their home turf last night )
-Big fan of weight training to complement my tennis game
-Go to shot is either Kicker out wide on the Ad court or forehand shank that lands in every time

Hi Mansour
Can you pls reply to my post about the differences, if any, between the 2012 and the 2015 Play Pure Drives?
And I am looking for real world differences, as I have played with the 2015 non play pure drive, and the 2012 play pure drive.
But I am not able to demo the new 2015 play pure drive.
Thanks

 

[Booger]

Is there a release date for the new babolat stringing machine yet?

 

[ed70]

Welcome back.

Pure Control Tour is quite a nice frame - any clues as to where Babolat will take that line from here?

Really like this frame too, just a bit underpowered for me standard so kept one frame which I'm experimenting with lead and string set up. Would be great if theres a replacement with a bit more power.

 

[Babolat Official]

Welcome back.

Pure Control Tour is quite a nice frame - any clues as to where Babolat will take that line from here?

Cheers. It is a very fun frame. Moving forward, it will be grandfathered into the Pure Strike family, rebranded as the Pure Strike CTRL. I don't have final specs at the moment as we're still fine tuning, but the Pure Control lineage will live on as Pure Strike CTRLs and the Pure Strikes will live on as the new Pure Strikes. In other words, we're not creating a hybrid of the Strike & Control.

welcome back too!

any possibility of that stealth Pure Aero PJ becoming a reality Mansoor?

I remember this feedback from when I originally posted about the plans to offer something special. I've shared your feedback with the team, though I don't know as of yet what the plans are for those products. I'll keep you posted.

Dear babolat.
Is this shoe as good as advertised ? But what about the cushioning ?? I need Babolat to put in cushioning that returns energy in explosive Way like Powercushion does. but so far all the new shoes does not do that....

http://www.tennisindustrymag.com/news/2016/02/babolat_jet_sets_the_pace_in_f.html

It's a fantastic shoe. In my opinion, the best shoe i've used. The colors alone are fantastic (big, big fan of fluoro red) and the texture is very cool too. Aesthetics aside, the shoe performs really well. I have a bit more of a wider foot, so I was worried, and the first day it definitely felt a bit snug. But by the second day, I had no issues. Day 3 with the Jets were a dream.

 

[Babolat Official]

You went to Duke ?

Brother I don't believe I would told that. hahahaha - What did UNC turn you down ?

I am just kidding you- welcome back and tough game last night. Congrats on the win.

I have friends at both places, and love the rivalry. Been a Tar Heel Fan since Jordan was there.

Q: see you use gosen micro quite a bit- how's M7 ? What is the closest string that you can compare it to. I have a few free packs just not sure who to use it on.

I'm going to refrain from the many UNC insults I have in my back pocket

In all seriousness, I've hated UNC since they beat Illinois in 2005, and I've respected and admired Duke just as long. It was a dream that I got to go there for school, and it was 4 of the best years I've had. I appreciate the sentiments.

As for M7, I like it quite a bit. It's quite soft and powerful, and it has excellent comfort. Gosen does well for a standard SG, but M7 gave me more feel and power. Plus, the comfort helped when my poor form plus fatigue was hurting my arm. I had just moved to altitude then, so you could imagine my timing was suspect.

What's your usual string?

 

[Babolat Official]

i like that absurd topspin forehand shank too. the mishit is the greatest shot in the game.

Highly underrated shot

@Babolat Official welcome back. Hope you can continue to foster a healthy relationship between the Talk Tennis community and Babolat corporate. Would love to hear what Babolat plans to do with the Pure Strike/Pure Control line going forward. What's the plan for the merge? What head sizes will stick around? How flexible will the new line be? Will Babolat still use the "flex carbon" material if the Pure Control line no longer exists? A Pure Aero with a stealth black PJ is an awesome concept!

Thanks again

I hope to do just that! As far as the merge, the Pure Strikes will live on as Pure Strikes, and the Pure Controls will live on as Pure Strike CTRLs. As far as the specs, I'm not yet sure as they're not quite finalized. I'll keep you posted as I get more details.

I like Babolat, their racquets make me feel all warm n fuzzy inside

You're far too kind

Are they any plans on bringing out any new tennis bags or special edition ones for French or Wimbledon?

Yes! There will be a full line of grand slam tennis bags, both French Open and Wimbledon. The French Open bags will be based on the Pure Aero/Drive bag construction whereas the Wimbledon one will be based on the Strike bag. I have to say, the French Open bag and entire line this year is one of the prettiest cosmetics I've seen.

I started playing tennis at fifteen as well, and I have yet to join a USTA league but I can't stop thinking about it. The biggest question is, at what point do I say I can jump into the leagues, or do I keep telling myself that I can train more?

I'm planning on joining a league this Spring! Honestly, there's no right or wrong time, as it differs for everyone. I think you can always train more while also playing in a league. If you're looking for competitive play, talk to a teaching pro about what your NTRP level is, and then perhaps join a league based on that recommendation.

"Mansewerz"?? Wow, I dont want to know!

Wonder if you could leak some classified Babolat info and tell me how Babolat has changed over the last 20 years since they started out (appreciate it was before your time there) regarding the supply/quality of their carbon fibre used in tennis racquets. Many players remember the feel of early pure drives etc and bemoan the changes in racquet construction that make more modern racquets feel more stiff and hollow, even if their weight/specs are similar to the old ones. Is this in our heads, or have there been changes to the composition of graphite/ layups and production methods used over the years that result in this change? Promise i wont tell your competitors!

The username was a pun off of my first name. As you can imagine, it gets mispronounced quite often!

As far as the inside info, the most I can say is that we have updated our graphite in 2006 with the tears of male models.

Hi Mansour
Can you pls reply to my post about the differences, if any, between the 2012 and the 2015 Play Pure Drives?
And I am looking for real world differences, as I have played with the 2015 non play pure drive, and the 2012 play pure drive.
But I am not able to demo the new 2015 play pure drive.
Thanks

The Play Pure Drive should play exactly the same as the non-play version, in the same model (ex: 2012, 2015), of course. That said, the 2015 Pure Drive plays with a bit more control than the 2012 Pure Drive. We updated the sweet spot location based on the data from the 2012 Play rackets, and it's been moved up slightly. It also has an updated stringing pattern.

In all, the 2015 PD has a bit less power, a bit more control, and more feel than the 2012 version.

Is there a release date for the new babolat stringing machine yet?

Great question! I'll find out and get back to you.

Really like this frame too, just a bit underpowered for me standard so kept one frame which I'm experimenting with lead and string set up. Would be great if theres a replacement with a bit more power.

Thanks for the feedback. It's good to know where a frame is lacking so we can improve next time. I'll share with the team.

 

[Zielmann]

I remember seeing the name Mansewerz around here a while back!

Halfway relevant question so there's some manner of reason for this post: Dampener or no dampener?

 

[PhxRacket]

Mansour
Do you modify your PS 16x19? I demoed it exclusively and struck a mean ball with it. Loads of spin, good directional control, but not as heavy as I would have liked.

 

[Babolat Official]

I remember seeing the name Mansewerz around here a while back!

Halfway relevant question so there's some manner of reason for this post: Dampener or no dampener?

I haven't used a dampener for the last 5 years. Some people swear by a dampener, but I personally don't use one. To each their own in this regard

Mansour
Do you modify your PS 16x19? I demoed it exclusively and struck a mean ball with it. Loads of spin, good directional control, but not as heavy as I would have liked.

The 16 x 19 is a great frame.

I did not modify mine, though. I've thought about it for some time because I'm used to more of the 320g unstrung frames, but I've also realized I love tinkering and have issues committing. So, when I found myself comfortable with the Pure Control Tour, I decided to stick with it, at least for an extended period of time. Maybe i'll play around a bit in the near future, but the PCT has treated me well lately.

 

[michael valek]

Jet shoes are fantastic. I second that.

 

[PhxRacket]

I haven't used a dampener for the last 5 years. Some people swear by a dampener, but I personally don't use one. To each their own in this regard



The 16 x 19 is a great frame.

I did not modify mine, though. I've thought about it for some time because I'm used to more of the 320g unstrung frames, but I've also realized I love tinkering and have issues committing. So, when I found myself comfortable with the Pure Control Tour, I decided to stick with it, at least for an extended period of time. Maybe i'll play around a bit in the near future, but the PCT has treated me well lately.

Do you find the PCT generates enough pace on the ball? I have read comments where some users felt it was too underpowered.

 

[Babolat Official]

Do you find the PCT generates enough pace on the ball? I have read comments where some users felt it was too underpowered.

It's definitely lower powered than the Pure Drive and the Pure Aero. I'm used to more flexible frames though, so I felt right at home with it. Plus, the extra control, especially on putting away short balls, thus far has been very welcome. I'm still adjusting to the different launch angle compared to the Drive and especially the Aero, but that will come with more time on court.

 

[PhxRacket]

It's definitely lower powered than the Pure Drive and the Pure Aero. I'm used to more flexible frames though, so I felt right at home with it. Plus, the extra control, especially on putting away short balls, thus far has been very welcome. I'm still adjusting to the different launch angle compared to the Drive and especially the Aero, but that will come with more time on court.

Ok. Now I have a question-I am coming from an old BLX Blade 98 that comes in at a shade under 12 oz. I like to hit flat when court position requires. I am a throw back serve and volleyer who prefers doubles. Big serve, bigger forehand, adequate 2hbh, excel at the net...if I can get there. Would the PCT fit that type of game?

 

[odessouky]

The Play Pure Drive should play exactly the same as the non-play version, in the same model (ex: 2012, 2015), of course. That said, the 2015 Pure Drive plays with a bit more control than the 2012 Pure Drive. We updated the sweet spot location based on the data from the 2012 Play rackets, and it's been moved up slightly. It also has an updated stringing pattern.

In all, the 2015 PD has a bit less power, a bit more control, and more feel than the 2012 version.

Thanks Mansour...

I can appreciate that...the 2012 Pure Drive play has too much power, and I struggled to control my shot placement...

 

[Easy Rider]

.


Current Set-up: Pure Control Tour with 2 grams of lead at 9 & 3, Babolat VS Touch @ 56 lbs, grip 3 no overgrip

Back in 2000s, till 2004 actually, Ive had a contract with Babolat. Racket of choice was PCT. Awesome racket. But Babolat discontinued that line. Im curious why?
Pure Storm was next but I tefused to resign a deal cuz everything else wasnt that good as PCT.
In 2014 babolat started again with this line. Im interested what was the reason and is there any diference between past and nowadays models/molds etc

Thanx in advance,

ER

 

[Babolat Official]

Is there a release date for the new babolat stringing machine yet?

I checked in, and at the moment, we do not yet have a finalized release date for the machine.

Back in 2000s, till 2004 actually, Ive had a contract with Babolat. Racket of choice was PCT. Awesome racket. But Babolat discontinued that line. Im curious why?
Pure Storm was next but I tefused to resign a deal cuz everything else wasnt that good as PCT.
In 2014 babolat started again with this line. Im interested what was the reason and is there any diference between past and nowadays models/molds etc

Thanx in advance,

ER

There seems to be a very loyal following to the original PCT.

When we discontinued the Pure Control Tour, we introduced the Pure Storm, which provided a bit of a different offering. Based on feedback from players like you all on the forum, we realized that there was a need for a more classical frame. Using the Pure Control as inspiration, we reintroduced the Pure Control with technologies and updates we thought would be fit for a classical frame in the modern game. I think the current Pure Control Tour does a good job at that.

As far as the models, there have been various layups throughout the years, but the current Pure Control Tour is the same mold as the original.

 

[fullwesternforehand]

Hello Mansoor, I was wondering if you knew about the new Pure Aero's bumper guard towards the top of the frame, and how many here have reported that the guard doesn't protect the main strings fairly well, resulting in premature string breaking. I believe there is already a thread explaining this issue further. Does Babolat plan on releasing thicker bumpers for the Pure Aero line seperately, or what is a possible solution for this? As a long time Aeropro Drive user, it is a bit of a deterrent for me and others for sure as well.
P.S. On a similar note, will there be exclusive French Open or Wimbledon paint jobs on Pure Drives or Pure Aeros this year? Thanks for your time Mansoor

 

[Nostradamus]

Cheers. It is a very fun frame. Moving forward, it will be grandfathered into the Pure Strike family, rebranded as the Pure Strike CTRL. I don't have final specs at the moment as we're still fine tuning, but the Pure Control lineage will live on as Pure Strike CTRLs and the Pure Strikes will live on as the new Pure Strikes. In other words, we're not creating a hybrid of the Strike & Control.



I remember this feedback from when I originally posted about the plans to offer something special. I've shared your feedback with the team, though I don't know as of yet what the plans are for those products. I'll keep you posted.



It's a fantastic shoe. In my opinion, the best shoe i've used. The colors alone are fantastic (big, big fan of fluoro red) and the texture is very cool too. Aesthetics aside, the shoe performs really well. I have a bit more of a wider foot, so I was worried, and the first day it definitely felt a bit snug. But by the second day, I had no issues. Day 3 with the Jets were a dream.

Nice to know but What about the Cushioning ?? Does it give you plush Responsive cushioning like Powercushion ? does it give you Energy return back to your feet and help you with 1st explosive step ?

 

[v-verb]

Cheers. It is a very fun frame. Moving forward, it will be grandfathered into the Pure Strike family, rebranded as the Pure Strike CTRL. I don't have final specs at the moment as we're still fine tuning, but the Pure Control lineage will live on as Pure Strike CTRLs and the Pure Strikes will live on as the new Pure Strikes. In other words, we're not creating a hybrid of the Strike & Control.



I remember this feedback from when I originally posted about the plans to offer something special. I've shared your feedback with the team, though I don't know as of yet what the plans are for those products. I'll keep you posted.



It's a fantastic shoe. In my opinion, the best shoe i've used. The colors alone are fantastic (big, big fan of fluoro red) and the texture is very cool too. Aesthetics aside, the shoe performs really well. I have a bit more of a wider foot, so I was worried, and the first day it definitely felt a bit snug. But by the second day, I had no issues. Day 3 with the Jets were a dream.

Thanks for checking Mansoor!

 

[smokeydusky]

Thanks for all the info.
Will the Jet last and sizing be like the SFX1, SFX2 or Propulse?

 

[fibonacci888]

Hi Mansoor,

Personally I love the babolat pure drive but find difficulty in the stiffness. More like a user malfunction

My question is regarding your great strings. I love a gut poly hybrid but find difficulties in moist conditions. Therefore I'm looking for alternatives. Would Origin suit me? If yes would that be a hybrid or full bed? what kind of hybrid? Origin main?

Thanks!

 

[McLovin]

Ahh, yes...@Mansewerz...Now I remember you:

Mansewerz
Legend
Joined: Oct 31, 2007
Messages: 9,163

Thanks to archive.org, nothing ever actually dies on the internet...

On a side note...and I've said this multiple times...for the Pure Strike CTRL...may I make a suggestion for specs?

 

[vsbabolat]

Ahh, yes...@Mansewerz...Now I remember you:

Mansewerz
Legend
Joined: Oct 31, 2007
Messages: 9,163

Thanks to archive.org, nothing ever actually dies on the internet...

On a side note...and I've said this multiple times...for the Pure Strike CTRL...may I make a suggestion for specs?

I remember Mansewerz too. I have echo this request and also Graphite and Kevlar layup while you're at it @Babolat Official! Just come out with the swirly Pure Control in that new Pure Strike paint and make sure its glossy!

 

[franco Rodriguez]

DEAR babolat

i have a pair of propulse mens shoes that need warranty work had them for 3 months, i don't have the warranty card .
anyway you can sent it to me or i can download the paper somewhere?

thanks

 

[mhkeuns]

Monsoor,
There is a discussion whether Babolat makes special frames. I heard you say that Babolat does not make special frames but customize them to each player's specific needs. For instance, one of the female player who plays with the Pure Control Tour requested Babolat to string up the frame at 100lbs., then cut the strings & repeat the process until the frame softened up to her likings. Thus, no special frames but special customizations for the players.

This is what one of the TTW member said when I mentioned that Babolat does not offer any pro stock frames:

Let's just say maybe that the dark side was keeping you in the "dark". Otherwise you can ask him if he can hand pick aero storm for you with 61ra or if you can have fognini's pure drive (old mold but 64ra) go ahead...ask him

So, here I am asking. Could you verify?

 

[Tuskarr]

any plans to bring PLAY technology to the extended length racquets?

 

[dekko1]

any plans to bring PLAY technology to the extended length racquets?

Yes, exactly!!

 

[Babolat Official]

Hello Mansoor, I was wondering if you knew about the new Pure Aero's bumper guard towards the top of the frame, and how many here have reported that the guard doesn't protect the main strings fairly well, resulting in premature string breaking. I believe there is already a thread explaining this issue further. Does Babolat plan on releasing thicker bumpers for the Pure Aero line seperately, or what is a possible solution for this? As a long time Aeropro Drive user, it is a bit of a deterrent for me and others for sure as well.
P.S. On a similar note, will there be exclusive French Open or Wimbledon paint jobs on Pure Drives or Pure Aeros this year? Thanks for your time Mansoor

We've received feedback regarding the Pure Aero bumpers, and the team in Lyon is working on a solution to these. I don't have an ETA yet, but as I get more information, I will definitely share updates with you. Thank you for the continued feedback.

As for the French Open and Wimbledon lines, yes, we will definitely be having those again this year. The French Open will have the Pure Aero with a special cosmetic, while the Wimbledon line features the Pure Drive. Both look excellent, and the Pure Aero FO edition is one of the my favorite cosmetic frames

Nice to know but What about the Cushioning ?? Does it give you plush Responsive cushioning like Powercushion ? does it give you Energy return back to your feet and help you with 1st explosive step ?

I can't say I've used Powercushion technology, so I cannot do a direct comparison there. That said, the Jet is quite comfortable from the second hit on (very minimal break in), and I think it has adequate cushioning. That said, it's not designed to be as plush as the SFX line.

Thanks for all the info.
Will the Jet last and sizing be like the SFX1, SFX2 or Propulse?

The Jet sizing is the same as the updated Propulse for 2016. If you used the Propulse BPM from 2015, I suggest going half size down (I wore 10 in the BPM Propulses, 9.5 in Jets and updated fit Propulses).

I don't have details about the last specifically. Were you mainly asking for sizing purposes?

Hi Mansoor,

Personally I love the babolat pure drive but find difficulty in the stiffness. More like a user malfunction

My question is regarding your great strings. I love a gut poly hybrid but find difficulties in moist conditions. Therefore I'm looking for alternatives. Would Origin suit me? If yes would that be a hybrid or full bed? what kind of hybrid? Origin main?

Thanks!

If gut is giving you issues due to the moist conditions, I would definitely give Origin a try. It's quite soft and comfortable like gut, and it has a bit more of a crisp feel. Since you're coming from a gut poly hybrid, assuming gut in the mains, I'd change one thing at a time. Try origin in the mains with the same poly, and let me know how it feels. It's always easier to only change one variable and decide if it's better or worse.

Ahh, yes...@Mansewerz...Now I remember you:

Mansewerz
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Joined: Oct 31, 2007
Messages: 9,163

Thanks to archive.org, nothing ever actually dies on the internet...

On a side note...and I've said this multiple times...for the Pure Strike CTRL...may I make a suggestion for specs?

Yep, that would be me from the good old days. I appreciate the feedback on the Pure Control line. I've been on this account for some time, so I've definitely enjoyed seeing your love for the PC Swirly. I'll share this feedback with the product team.

I remember Mansewerz too. I have echo this request and also Graphite and Kevlar layup while you're at it @Babolat Official! Just come out with the swirly Pure Control in that new Pure Strike paint and make sure its glossy!

Thanks for the feedback, @vsbabolat . I'll share with the product team. The love for this frame goes deep, clearly!

DEAR babolat

i have a pair of propulse mens shoes that need warranty work had them for 3 months, i don't have the warranty card .
anyway you can sent it to me or i can download the paper somewhere?

thanks

Shoot me an e-mail at msafi@babolat.com and we can go from there

Monsoor,
There is a discussion whether Babolat makes special frames. I heard you say that Babolat does not make special frames but customize them to each player's specific needs. For instance, one of the female player who plays with the Pure Control Tour requested Babolat to string up the frame at 100lbs., then cut the strings & repeat the process until the frame softened up to her likings. Thus, no special frames but special customizations for the players.

This is what one of the TTW member said when I mentioned that Babolat does not offer any pro stock frames:

Let's just say maybe that the dark side was keeping you in the "dark". Otherwise you can ask him if he can hand pick aero storm for you with 61ra or if you can have fognini's pure drive (old mold but 64ra) go ahead...ask him

So, here I am asking. Could you verify?

I remember a long thread on the topic of Pro Stock frames. I gave a fairly detailed response, and i'll reiterate some of the main points. We do not make special prostock frames for our professional players. They are using retail frames customized to their preferred specs, and at times, these retail frames were previously available to consumers but are not currently offered. A perfect example is the Aerostorm. It was a frame we previously offered that pros use, but we've since discontinued due to reduced demand from consumers as relayed to us via our shops and retailers. There was a photo floating around on these boards of Steve Johnson's Aerostorm with the 2013 Aero cosmetic, though the frames said "Aerostorm" on them.

Moreover, it's important to keep in mind that RA specs that are shared can vary for a variety of reasons. RA can differ due how old a racket is, calibration of the machine, strung or unstrung, how much the racket has been used, etc. It's for that reason our pros get new frames every 2 - 4 months, so as not to get used to a feeling in a frame that cannot be easily replicated from the manufacturing process. There's been speculation about some very high profile names not being able to switch frames because they became too used to the feeling of a very used frame. I cannot verify the validity of this claim, but I know that speculation is there. We know that frame fatigue is a real problem, and we do our best to keep giving our players the feel and sensations in their frames that they had from the onset.

We realize these frame issues are problematic for consumers. We've been listening to your feedback, and we hear you. This feedback has been shared with the team in Lyon, and we're currently working on a solution. The hopes are to have this solution out in late 2016, so stay tuned.

any plans to bring PLAY technology to the extended length racquets?

Yes, exactly!!

I've heard a good amount of feedback about extending Play technology to other frame lines/models. It's something we've thought about a great deal, and we're currently working on solutions for it. Stay tuned.

 

[mhkeuns]

Thank you for the response. I'm sure it's asked over and over, and you are tired of answering the same question. I guess no matter what's said, some people are convinced that there are pro stock frames from Babolat. Thanks again.

 

[smokeydusky]

"The Jet sizing is the same as the updated Propulse for 2016. If you used the Propulse BPM from 2015, I suggest going half size down (I wore 10 in the BPM Propulses, 9.5 in Jets and updated fit Propulses).
I don't have details about the last specifically. Were you mainly asking for sizing purposes?"

Thanks once again for being so responsive.
I am curious about the last because it would tell me about the width, instep height and curve, among other things.

 

[mavsman149]

Ahh, yes...@Mansewerz...Now I remember you:

Mansewerz
Legend
Joined: Oct 31, 2007
Messages: 9,163

Thanks to archive.org, nothing ever actually dies on the internet...

On a side note...and I've said this multiple times...for the Pure Strike CTRL...may I make a suggestion for specs?

The greatest racket ever! With the greatest paint job ever! See my sig, still have 3 and May make it my main frame again

 

[Bender]

i like that absurd topspin forehand shank too. the mishit is the greatest shot in the game.

That is one part of my game that has definitely improved to a consistent level ever since I switched from an APD to a PS90.

 

[Sparky]

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/bonjour-from-babolat.447810/page-112

For selfish reasons, I'd like to post a link to the original Bonjour from Babolat thread which I frequently review as a Babolat fan.

There's great info in the original thread.

Thank you Mansoor (and Daniel too!)

 

[McLovin]

Hey @Babolat Official, a question for your racquet design engineers as this topic comes up frequently in the Stringing area:

When the engineers are designing frames and string patterns, do they consider the effort it takes to restring when deciding how to line up the skip holes/grommets and tie-offs? Or do they simply put then where they work best for that frame?

Most frames can be strung with ease in either 1-piece or 2-piece, but some are a PITA due to placement of the skip holes (essentially blocking the in/out of the cross) or having the tie off unusually far from the last exit hole, resulting in a significant loss of tension.​

Just curious...

 

[Babolat Official]

Thank you for the response. I'm sure it's asked over and over, and you are tired of answering the same question. I guess no matter what's said, some people are convinced that there are pro stock frames from Babolat. Thanks again.

I'm happy to help. Of course, certain questions will be asked over and over again. That doesn't bother me at all, as not everyone was present the first time the question was asked. The more troublesome issue is when someone claims a falsehood as absolute truth, and then it spreads like wildfire. But, I suppose the rumor mill would be way less exciting if that never occurred

"The Jet sizing is the same as the updated Propulse for 2016. If you used the Propulse BPM from 2015, I suggest going half size down (I wore 10 in the BPM Propulses, 9.5 in Jets and updated fit Propulses).
I don't have details about the last specifically. Were you mainly asking for sizing purposes?"

Thanks once again for being so responsive.
I am curious about the last because it would tell me about the width, instep height and curve, among other things.

Of course. Let me see what I can find out regarding the last from our shoe team.

The greatest racket ever! With the greatest paint job ever! See my sig, still have 3 and May make it my main frame again

Daniel has one hung up in his office that's in excellent shape. I shadow swing it every so often, but the grip is massive! (Well, 4 3/8, but I've sized down to 1/4 since I started working here

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/bonjour-from-babolat.447810/page-112

For selfish reasons, I'd like to post a link to the original Bonjour from Babolat thread which I frequently review as a Babolat fan.

There's great info in the original thread.

Thank you Mansoor (and Daniel too!)

Thanks for that reminder! I'll edit my original post so this link will always be easily accessible.

Hey @Babolat Official, a question for your racquet design engineers as this topic comes up frequently in the Stringing area:

When the engineers are designing frames and string patterns, do they consider the effort it takes to restring when deciding how to line up the skip holes/grommets and tie-offs? Or do they simply put then where they work best for that frame?

Most frames can be strung with ease in either 1-piece or 2-piece, but some are a PITA due to placement of the skip holes (essentially blocking the in/out of the cross) or having the tie off unusually far from the last exit hole, resulting in a significant loss of tension.​

Just curious...

That's a really good question I don't have an answer to. Let me talk to our product team and get back to you.

 

[Babolat Official]

Ok. Now I have a question-I am coming from an old BLX Blade 98 that comes in at a shade under 12 oz. I like to hit flat when court position requires. I am a throw back serve and volleyer who prefers doubles. Big serve, bigger forehand, adequate 2hbh, excel at the net...if I can get there. Would the PCT fit that type of game?

I think the PCT would fit your game style pretty well. I haven't personally used the BLX Blade, but if you're a flat hitter who likes to come to net, I think the PCT would be a good frame to try. It volleys well, and I like it a great deal from the backcourt. Very well suited to an all court game, in my opinion.

I would also give the Pure Strike and/or Strike Tour a try. It's a little more hefty swingweight wise, but it can give that extra plow and is good for flat strokes.

 

[PhxRacket]

I think the PCT would fit your game style pretty well. I haven't personally used the BLX Blade, but if you're a flat hitter who likes to come to net, I think the PCT would be a good frame to try. It volleys well, and I like it a great deal from the backcourt. Very well suited to an all court game, in my opinion.

I would also give the Pure Strike and/or Strike Tour a try. It's a little more hefty swingweight wise, but it can give that extra plow and is good for flat strokes.

I demoed the 16x19 Pure Strike and really liked it. How does it compare to the PCT?

 

[ShahofTennis]

Mansour, would I be correct to assume you still reside in Durham NC? If so, we should definitely hit soon.

 

[Babolat Official]

Mansour, would I be correct to assume you still reside in Durham NC? If so, we should definitely hit soon.

I would love to hit soon......except I no longer live in Durham I relocated to Denver once I joined Babolat. But, if you're in Durham, go cheer on my Blue Devils! Matches are always a blast!

I demoed the 16x19 Pure Strike and really liked it. How does it compare to the PCT?

The PCT has more plow and more control, I'd say. The PS16x19 has a crisper feel and more pop off the string bed directly. I like the extra weight of the Pure Control Tour, which also gives me that added stability. I haven't tried the Strike Tour side by side, which may be a more fair comparison since they're more similar in weight.

I'm still dialing in the Pure Control Tour on my two handed backhands. The Pure Strike 16x19 gave that fairly easily, though slices feel better with the PCT. I prefer the PCT on volleys as well, especially with the added weight.