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Hi dr,
The Flag racquets will be launching in January due to IOC requirements.
-Josh
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Hi dr,
The Flag racquets will be launching in January due to IOC requirements.
-Josh
Babolat Official
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Yes, there will be a Pure Drive, Pure Aero and Pure Strike France.
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
Josh, this new Syntec pro replacement grips are supposed to be 10 % Thinner for better feel. When did they change to thinner version of Syntec pro replacement grip ?? When did they change to thinner version ? I personally prefer the older thicker version so I am going to different stores to find them. If they had it stock over a Year, I figure it is the older version ??
Also outer packaging looks exactly same so I am having hard time making sure it is the older version when I do find it......
Babolat Syntec Pro Replacement Grips | Tennis Warehouse
www.tennis-warehouse.com
Babolat has taken their flagship replacement grip for the competitive player and made it now 10% thinner for better feel of the ball. It's instantly been adopted by the Babolat Team on tour. Available in a variety of colors and fitted on Pure Drive and Aero racquets.
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Bender
G.O.A.T.
That may explain why I liked the grip on the new Strikes far more than I did with my One7 grip. Felt a bit round and had to play for a few weeks / months before it kinda sank and gave it its boxy shape.Josh, this new Syntec pro replacement grips are supposed to be 10 % Thinner for better feel. When did they change to thinner version of Syntec pro replacement grip ?? When did they change to thinner version ? I personally prefer the older thicker version so I am going to different stores to find them. If they had it stock over a Year, I figure it is the older version ??
Babolat Syntec Pro Replacement Grips | Tennis Warehouse
Babolat has taken their flagship replacement grip for the competitive player and made it now 10% thinner for better feel of the ball. It's instantly been adopted by the Babolat Team on tour. Available in a variety of colors and fitted on Pure Drive and Aero racquets.
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
do you know where I can get some of the older syntec pro replacement grips ? these new ones are too thin, I don't like it
Thanks Josh, but, Yikes, will pass on that.
WillGinRVA
Rookie
Wouldn’t that make the strung RA like 65-66? Doesn’t seem too bad.
longtimelurker
Professional
67 according to specs.. I think people get caught up on specs numbers etc.. try the thing first ! racquets flex measurements don't always tell the story, some flex more more in different parts e.t.c
McLovin
Legend
I for one would be extremely interested in an extended version of the Pure Aero VS, as well as the an extended version of the Pure Drive VS. Hope you decide to at least give them a trial run.
It is though when you don't have a demo program, or even the racquet being sold in your country.
The New strikes are on syntec team (1.50mm). Not syntec pro
Bender
G.O.A.T.
Well I like the new Strikes’ default grip...wondering if the One7 had the same or uses a thicker grip because the One7 felt a bit fatter and took some time to flatten.
AJvR
Rookie
2017 PS had Skin Feel grip as far as I know.
I bought a few of these syntec team while traveling in France last september, the manager of the retailer told me they were replacing the bab skin feel.
Yep. Skin feel for for project one 7, syntec team for pure strike 3rd gen
marceloriosfan
Rookie
there seems to be a wide range in RDC readings... I've had the same racket done on different machines and seen a 3-5 RA range
Babolat Official
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Hi Nostradamus,
I'm doing my best to track down when we switched over, the problem is it was a running change and the style number stayed the same, so it's not easy to track. Worst case, the specs for the grips are listed on the back of the packaging, so you'll want to look for ones that are thicker than the current version (1.9mm). I'll let you know when I found out more.
-Josh
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
what was older version's thickness ? because I think older version also said 1.9 mm ?
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
I think the older version packaging looks like this, slightly different. Am I right ? I don't have the picture from the reverse side where specs would be.
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
Also from the TW forum Grips specs and weight section in Other equipement, 2013 version of Syntec pro replacement grip is also 1.9 mm thickness..... ???
.90mm ... Gamma Hi-Tec ... (Knife,2013)
1.90mm ... Babolat Uptake ... (BabolatWebsite, 2013)
1.90mm ... Pro's Pro Super Ridge ... (RetailWebsite,2013)
1.90mm ... Pro's Pro Hyper Power ... (RetailWebsite,2013)
1.90mm ... Tecnifibre X-Tra Feel ... (TW Retail Info, 2013)
1.90mm ... Babolat Syntec Pro ...(BabolatWebsite, 2013)
1.90mm ... Gosen Nano (MG-40) ... (With Digital Micrometer, Love50,2010)
1.90mm ... Babolat Syntec Pro French Open ...(BabolatWebsite,2013)
1.90mm ... Wilson True ... (RetailWebsite,2013)
1.90mm ... Weiss Cannon High Tech ...(RetailWeb,2013)
1.90mm ... Weiss Cannon Relief ...(RetailWeb,2013)
1.90mm ... Weiss Cannon Track-Line ...(RetailWeb,2013)
Babolat Official
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Hi megamind,
I'm not aware of any plans for any new racquets with an RA that low, certainly not anytime soon at least. As far as arm friendliness goes, I honestly think the stiffness of the racquet is less important than things like grip size, type of string, string tension, frequency of stringing, stroke mechanics, and weight of the frame. I can't say definitively that any of our racquets is more arm friendly than another, because it depends who is using it; what helps one player may be detrimental to another. I certainly think that softer strings, lower tensions, re-stringing more frequently, correct grip size and hitting the ball cleanly will be the most arm friendly, regardless of racquet stiffness. Whether or not a racquet is arm friendly for a given player needs to be determined on a case by case basis, and I don't think a more flexible racquet is by default more arm friendly.
-Josh
Babolat Official
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Hi Nostradamus,
You are correct, and now I'm completely confused too. I found an old Syntec Pro lying around (item number 670034, which was last in the catalog in 2015) and it says the thickness is 1.9mm as well. Ugh. I will do my best to get to the bottom of this for you, so stay tuned.
-Josh
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Hi McLovin,
I think as the VS line of racquets continues to evolve and become more established in our lineup, there will likely be an extended version in some of the racquets. Don't quote me on it, but that's my feeling at the moment.
-Josh
djNEiGht
Legend
McLovin
Legend
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
is the item number 670051, the new grips from 2019 ? that is what I have.
megamind
Legend
good Babolat-like response, I guess it's hard to say that flexy racquets are more arm friendly, unless there are studies out there
used to use Babolat only, and then had injury issues, so now I'm trying out flexy racquettes
a lot of pros using Babolat have racquets with lower flex, so I just sometimes wonder why Babolat's retail strategy differs
Do you have info to back this claim up or are you just assuming? I don’t believe that is accurate. To my knowledge, all customization of Babolat racquets are done after the fact, often by companies like P1, so you could also adjust certain specs just like the pros if you chose to do so. Not sure the same can be said for some other manufacturers but from everything I’ve heard this is the case with Babolat.
megamind
Legend
see ATP Strung Spec section for flex per player: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...OxBirFxKH67jY-2ukMVRQa7DA/edit#gid=1655624558
but those are mostly rumors.
just like some folks tend to say that each and every pro plays with super heavy frame, which was proven wrong.
megamind
Legend
those are compiled from stringers around the world who get a chance to string pros' racquets, no?
Karma Tennis
Legend
Unless you can provide clear evidence that comes directly from the Players themselves your statement is conjecture.
megamind
Legend
players might not be allowed to say that, so it's unfair to even expect that
why would stringers lie?
Karma Tennis
Legend
I simply ask you to provide evidence of your claim, otherwise what you say is conjecture.
Why would they provide factual information about this? They have absolutely nothing to gain by doing so. I imagine they have a lot to lose by doing so.
michael valek
Hall of Fame
Babolat official - any way to post a picture of the Uk/gb design pure aero? Thanks mike
if it is STILL 1.9MM , there is no changes , josh.
I don't think that stringers can determine the RA while stringing.
And there are many rumours that stringing at official tournaments is a very tough job, meaning that they need to string a lot of frames in short time. So don't know when they could take a frame and go to an RDC machine to measure the RA
1990's Graphite
Hall of Fame
Ha, love this.
marceloriosfan
Rookie
agreed
that said, Bab does some in house (they used to show pro room at French Open). We talked about it in another thread: for Stosur, restringing painted racket at high tension and cutting out string to bring down RA, but it started from a frame that was for sale at retail. As we all know: they paint Rafa's pre-cortex APD. Then I heard they shave Thiem's grip. Thiem is a funny mix as well: 2014 Strike, then 2014 painted like PO7, then switched to the new Strike (one that was released in 2019).
from a different thread as well
RA readings are all over the place! I had the same racket (PAT) measured at various times and the RA range was like 3-5 off depending on the machines.
marceloriosfan
Rookie
@Babolat Official you strung at RG, IW, Cincy. Did you or the other stringers measure RA, balance, how obvious are pro stocks, paint jobs, etc.
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Babolat Official
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Hi Jster,
I know, that is why I'm so confused!
I do remember seeing that somewhere, but it's not in any of our catalogs. I am trying to find slides from our ales meetings over the last couple years to see if that's where I saw it. Our product manager is also going to reach out to France to confirm, and I will let everyone know what I find out.-Josh
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Hi marceloriosfan,
We do have an rdc and another diagnostic machine at Roland Garros and the gentlemen who do our in-house customization do those measurements. Not on every racquet, but as requested, or if they are curious about a particular player's racquets. Nate doesn't bring an rdc to Cincy, but he does bring a machine to measure swingweight, balance, etc. My feeling is that outside of the slams, not a lot of customization gets done in stringing rooms. There just isn't time, and most players are already dialed in with their equipment at that point. As far as pj/pro stock racquets, it's not always easy to tell, so you have to be careful, and be sure to check patterns on every new player's racquet you get, just to be sure.
-Josh
Babolat Official
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Hi Mike,
The UK/GB racquet will actually be a Boost, not a Pure Aero. I will be able to post pics as we get closer to the January launch date, so stay tuned. Thanks!
-Josh
jmacdaununder2
Legend
Exactly! My 12 y.o. niece keeps complaining that one of my old racquets - Wilson Profile 2.7 - that I gave her makes her arm hurt; I've told her that I've reduced the grip size and put soft poly in it and that she needs to harden up, but on she goes...
