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  1. db10s

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    @dunloptennis is about to follow you on instagram.... uh oh. :cool:
     
  2. Babolat Official

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    We'll have a new Pure Storm in 2014. Not sure what the product mix is or what the new technology will be.

    This is our more "classic" feeling racquet so it should remain more flexible to offer all types of frames to players. I'll let you guys know when I have more info. Thanks for the inquiry!
     
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    Do you work for Dunlop?

    our instagram is @babolatvs
     
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    haha, to my knowledge we don't have an official response.

    Historically, we've been a big proponent of open string patterns, wider beams, larger head sizes, and spin.
     
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    Honestly the key here is more flex. Babs are getting stiffer every year, I'd love to see the opposite with the Pure Storms. The team is flexing at around 60 and it feels SO much better for many of us to have them there. I really hope you guys make the new ones flex no higher than 62 or 63 because many, many players are looking for a softer feel.
     
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    Some players like the stiffer frames, some like the more flexible. Our goal is to offer options to everyone.
     
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    Apologies if previously asked, but any chance of a reissue of the original Aeropro Drive? Perhaps as a Rafa signature frame or otherwise? Thank you.
     
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    That would be killer. Flex at 65, old school colors.
     
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    Do you (officially) comment on whether the 99S creates more rpm than the APD?
     
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    That would be like going back to the original APD, the best they say. Maybe if they it goes down in stiffness they could attract more customers.
     
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    If you change the classic feel you will loose PS users I suppose.
     
  12. Quixote

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    Yeah, man, no reason why they couldn't do it - same as the GT/13 minus a few things (it's not like they have to track down 80-90s quality graphite).

    Understand the concern about cannibalizing sales of the '13, but the market for the "new" model isn't something that is likely going to wane with the racquets being sold to Joe Consumer at big-chains in addition to TW. Perhaps, a limited test-run on TW? Maybe market it as a modern-players' racquet given the lower flex (especially with the AeroStorm being phased out)?
     
  13. Boricua

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    I agree. I for one am trying Pro Kennex.
     
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    Guys who use stiff frames with poly will eventually get hurt.
     
  15. Quixote

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    That's exactly my point - just reissue the original. Definitely think it would attract more customers, particularly by capturing well-informed, semi-traditionalists (let's face the PS85 crowd is never converting) that Babolat loses out to other brands. I know I'd pick up a a few (particularly if it's a limited run) in a second.
     
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    Babolat would not loose by doing this. They could sell the stiffer 2013 arm breaker one and also sell the Nadal original. Who is to loose?
     
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    Come on Babolat, the people have spoken! Let's make this happen! :)
     
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    I haven't tested the racquet.
     
  19. Babolat Official

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    it's a solid idea
     
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    Thanks, man; in all seriousness I hope this comes to fruition since the interest is definitely there.
     
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    I presume you are joking? How can Babolat release the original type APD that Rafa uses, and at the same time advertise the new 2013APD as Rafa's frame PJ'd on the racket he plays with? How will that work exactly?
     
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    They do it with the roddick why not have a signature Nadal frame similar in spec to what he plays with and still keep the standard aero pro drive....I would buy multiples without even trying it...
     
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    But Roddick was using a non-cortex type 2001 version Pure Drive, under the paintwork, you do know that right?
     
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    I think Daniel's comments pertained to the re-release of the original APD as being a solid idea, not necessarily having it designated as a Rafa model only. I would presume that Babolat has already approached Rafa in creating a signature line given his obvious importance to the sport and to the company in particular and, for whatever reason, he likely has already rejected such an idea. Thus, the naming issue could be a moot point.

    Beyond that, it doesn't take much thought to conceive of a new method to market such a release. This could be tennis' version of a "throwback" - you do remember the "throwback" craze don't you, or were you not part of that demographic (which I presume you weren't given your avatar and apparent appreciation of jimmy connors). After all, they could do what Head did with the AA Radical tribute model, notwithstanding the fact that Agassi was/is using a paint-jobbed Pro Tour 260 OS painted as the current model. Not too hard to envision a Rafa "tribute" racquet sold through TW on a limited run, with the original APD underneath. To that end, you can even keep the original paintjob, maybe just make some reference to a career slam or something of that ilk - maybe just put it on the cardboard insert. Thus, they honor one of the best players the game has known (and someone who has been extremely helpful to Babolat's growth) and bring back to the market a beloved racquet. Beyond that, and if they limited the run sufficiently (unlike Head), they could also create additional demand by producing what effectively would be a collector's item. You do realize that some people pay between $300 and $500.00 for new, original APDs don't you?

    Yeah, don't see why such an idea would be a joke, but thanks for your feedback. :?
     
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    So what? You're presuming that people buy APDs merely because of Rafa. I wonder how sales of the APD were doing this past year when it appeared that his career very well may have been over, or at the least, quite different from the success he enjoyed before. I could be mistaken, but I believe the APD was still last year's top selling racquet...

    Another thing you're apparently over-looking is that in the U.S., the average consumer could walk into virtually any mall and pick-up an Aeropro Drive GT. Not sure how having a more discreet product run, sold through a limited number of retailers (if not just TW itself), would jeopardize that.
     
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    Honestly, the idea is a joke mate, at least for Babolat!

    I have had many criticisms of Babolat, but one thing they definitely are is a modern forward thinking company. There is no way they are going to re-release the original APD in any form what so ever. Babolat have done limited editions, but they tend to be modern forward thinking (even celebrating their 125, 130 and 135 with newly designed frames/paint). Don't get me wrong, they would sell, but it would be a backward step for them in my opinion.
     
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    No, I'm not presuming anything, or indeed overlooking anything.
     
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    Listen "mate," you can disagree with my perspective all you like as you are entitled to do so. What you are not permitted to do, however, is to demean me. Do you understand, "mate"?

    You apparently want to go out of your way to be difficult and demeaning on a point that doesn't really affect you. Recognizing one's history doesn't render one stale, nor does it preclude their ability to be forward thinking. Also, in the event that you have forgotten, Babolat is a business presumably operating on the basis of profit. As other's have voiced, there is interest in such a frame - heck, search for the APD original and you'll see how favorably this racquet compares to those produced since.

    What a similar search will reveal is that you apparently don't use racquets produced since Margaret Thatcher left office. As such, your interest in this topic and my point is somewhat baffling. I'll tell you what, mate, why don't you chime in when someone brings up the T5000. Keep displaying that British sense of business and industry that has done so well in the post-war era....
     
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    Then it's your thought process that is faulty. Good to know.
     
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    Jimbo, this guy is really excitable. Best to ignore him, like LeeD
     
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    Yes, also advisable not to go out of your way to demean others and to misrepresent racquets when attempting to sell them. Which reminds me, Marosmith, how is the sale of your magically enchanted pro tour lite going?

    If you gentlemen have any issues and wish to discuss further, you can email me through my profile - lets not clutter the board up with your nonsense.
     
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    Quixote, I apologise. When I say mate, I am being friendly. I am not in any way trying to demean you. I like you want the original APD to be reissued, it is the best version of the APD, and like I said, it will sell very well.
    My point is that, unfortunately, it will not happen.
     
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    Nope, but I am on the preferred player list... I found you guys pretty easily, BTW.
     
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    Thanks for reinforcing the point.
     
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    Jimbo - no hard feelings, my only issue was terming my idea as a "joke." Just took your comment as being a bit personal. Thanks for the reply back.

    Unfortunately, I think you're likely right about this being a dream at best. Would be nice though.
     
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    Hello babolat official. I am a freshman in high school and am #3 on my varsity ladder and play number one doubles. I currently use the aero pro drive gt. Is there any way I could try and get sponsored?
     
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    I hope you guys can address the sluggishness of serving with the Pure Storm Tour GT since that is the only thing this racquet is missing.
     
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    Nice, very nice. Act all offended because someone disagrees with you, and then use that perceived insult as a reason to flame someone. You are not fooling anyone, brah.
     
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    How does this pertain to you? If you're looking to argue, just don't run away whining - deal?
     
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    Omg my roddick pure drives are not his personal pro stock...I am so suing babolat....noob.

    A signature Nadal aeropro drive that has a similar weight to his actual spec ie heavier than the stock would be a great addition to the babolat line up.
     
  41. Babolat Official

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    Did you send me an email?
     
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    Hello Mr. Official, Can you let me know if there is a grip that weights the same as the Skin Feel but is a bit thicker. I am trying to increase the sixe of my grip without changing the weight. Most appreciated.
     
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    I have a limited edition 12 pack bag (Roland Garros) that I love, but the middle zipper broke. Any insight on how to get this fixed. My tailor won't do it. It's relatively new, but There aren't any more being sold. I've been using Babolat since 2001 - love the PD! I string at 48 as well.

    Thanks!
    Steve
     
  44. Babolat Official

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    Woofer grip is 28% thicker and .04 oz lighter. Probably a good place to start. I believe TW has in stock.
     
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    was it a defect or from wear and tear? shoot me an email and include some pics and I'll ask the warranty guys. dbecker@babolat.com
     
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    anyone down in Miami for the Sony?
     
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    Why don't you just add lead to the stock?
     
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    Is it too early to divulge any info about the '14 Storm / Control / traditional stick? Is that going to be Tsonga's new racquet? Or one of the young bucks?
     
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    Was a defect with the zipper. I tried to email you but it came back to me. I have two photos that show the condition of the bag.

    Thanks, Daniel!
     
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    Why not make every racquet 10 Ozs stock...why sell a PDR at all- simple answer is demand and adding that much lead is tedious. The stuff also falls off when you play depending on the amount and where it is added. You make a signature Nadal racquet and people are going to buy it. Also how do you adjust stiffness with lead? I have posted this in other areas of the forum but if you are adding like 20-30 grams of lead to your frame, you may want to see if there is something else on the market that is more to your liking. (exluding those weirdos who lead up to over 12.9 ozs and above yeah I get it they don't make raquets that heavy)
     
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