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m2nk2

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What's the story with Naddes new racquet? I'm sure there is a post from Daniel somewhere but can't find it.

The PJ looks great but should be yellow instead! Will it be like the original APD without cortex and that nonsense?
 

Dags

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We believe that hybrid string sets are a great option for most players.
Do the designers ever reconsider the location of the designated tie-off grommets? Two-piece on both the PD and APD leave very little room to tie off the bottom cross. There are ways around this - and Babolat are by no means the only manufacturer who produce racquets with this 'problem' - but it always seemed to me that these frames have been designed very much with one-piece in mind.

On a side note, is there a release schedule for the stringing machines? Any new ones in the works (Star 6 maybe)?
 

Babolat Official

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Do the designers ever reconsider the location of the designated tie-off grommets? Two-piece on both the PD and APD leave very little room to tie off the bottom cross. There are ways around this - and Babolat are by no means the only manufacturer who produce racquets with this 'problem' - but it always seemed to me that these frames have been designed very much with one-piece in mind.

On a side note, is there a release schedule for the stringing machines? Any new ones in the works (Star 6 maybe)?
1. yes

2. in testing
 
Hi Daniel,
I don't know if you answered it before in this lengthy thread, but why did you discontinue the AeroStorm line? It is my holy grail... (specifically the Tour model).
What would you recommend as a replacement in your line?
 

Lavs

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Hi Daniel,
I don't know if you answered it before in this lengthy thread, but why did you discontinue the AeroStorm line? It is my holy grail... (specifically the Tour model).
What would you recommend as a replacement in your line?
As far as I know Babolat stands that Pure Strike is a replacement (sort of) for Aero Storm. Nothing can beat Aero Storm in its uniqueness. I am in your boat - regretting that this line is out of production.
 

iceman_dl6

Semi-Pro
Daniel, for the Nadal racquet, if they kept the PJ (Monte Carlo 2015) and did a heavy version "a la RF97" with Nadal specs, I would certainly buy it! It would be a great idea! Look at the RF97 sales! Of course, a lighter version for others should be available as well like the PS97.
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
Daniel, for the Nadal racquet, if they kept the PJ (Monte Carlo 2015) and did a heavy version "a la RF97" with Nadal specs, I would certainly buy it! It would be a great idea! Look at the RF97 sales! Of course, a lighter version for others should be available as well like the PS97.
I highly doubt they make the "heavy version". they had not in the past, it is not their style. besides they sell plenty of rackets that are tweeners which Nadal likes and uses himself.

What would they call the Heavier version ? they can't call it Nadal since he uses the lighter version. and they can't call it Tour. since Aeropro line doesn't have such version.
 

v-verb

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Daniel, for the Nadal racquet, if they kept the PJ (Monte Carlo 2015) and did a heavy version "a la RF97" with Nadal specs, I would certainly buy it! It would be a great idea! Look at the RF97 sales! Of course, a lighter version for others should be available as well like the PS97.
Me too - but Daniel knows that:)
 

Babolat Official

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Hi Daniel,
I don't know if you answered it before in this lengthy thread, but why did you discontinue the AeroStorm line? It is my holy grail... (specifically the Tour model).
What would you recommend as a replacement in your line?
Worldwide, no one was buying it and the feedback from the market was we needed to work on something new.

Try the Pure Strike 16x19 or Pure Strike 100 (add weight) or Pure Control (not tour).
 

Babolat Official

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Daniel, for the Nadal racquet, if they kept the PJ (Monte Carlo 2015) and did a heavy version "a la RF97" with Nadal specs, I would certainly buy it! It would be a great idea! Look at the RF97 sales! Of course, a lighter version for others should be available as well like the PS97.
message received
 

gregor.b

Professional
2014, one PLAY model = Pure Drive

2015, three PLAY models = Aeropro Drive, 2015 Pure Drive, 2015 Pure Drive Lite

For the future? Stay tuned. We are an ambitious group and as the PLAY experience continues to improve and the community continues to grow...our vision is that every tennis player has the option to play connected.
Then please start making a softer racquet. I loved the Pure Drive Tour (Roddick)but it was too stiff. I had to make my own out of a Head Extreme Team because there was nothing close in the Babo line. It comes in at 335 strung with a 325-330 swing weight and just crushes the ball. It is magic, but just not as good as the Pure Drive Tour.
 

bertrevert

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Then please start making a softer racquet. I loved the Pure Drive Tour (Roddick)but it was too stiff. I had to make my own out of a Head Extreme Team because there was nothing close in the Babo line. It comes in at 335 strung with a 325-330 swing weight and just crushes the ball. It is magic, but just not as good as the Pure Drive Tour.
Heh heh, I doubt they'll ever mess with the DNA of the PD and take away it's natural born stiffness rating.

Am using the new PD 2015, gee it is stiff alright, but that's its nature.

Am wondering if my 50 yr-old shoulder will make peace with it or not, ugh.

With the Dunlop experiment of those stiffness sleeves perhaps not working out it looks like stiffness is the one area where the customer doesn't get to choose.
 

gregor.b

Professional
Heh heh, I doubt they'll ever mess with the DNA of the PD and take away it's natural born stiffness rating.

Am using the new PD 2015, gee it is stiff alright, but that's its nature.

Am wondering if my 50 yr-old shoulder will make peace with it or not, ugh.

With the Dunlop experiment of those stiffness sleeves perhaps not working out it looks like stiffness is the one area where the customer doesn't get to choose.
Then I will have to forego a Babo until they change their philosophy, I guess. Racquet stiffness is the one thing I have to have right. I want to play this game until I am on old man. The rest I can sort out with silicone and lead.
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
message received
Here is the Truth. The so called Heavy version of RF97 initially sold ok as Roger was using the frame and all the Hype in the beginning. BUT here is the Big wakeup call. When the public quickly found out that so called Heavy version was a very very demanding racket to use, the Sales quickly DIED out. and the lighter version sold much much better after that.

This is the reason why I say, there is no need to make the so called Heavy version, especially in lite of the fact that Nadal will be using lighter spec version anyhow.........
 

BHud

Hall of Fame
I just want a Soft Drive...maybe similar specs to the Pure Drive but with an RA of 65. My aging arm can't take the Pure Drive much longer, but I need the power and maneuverability!
 

KluddKalle

Semi-Pro
I just want a Soft Drive...maybe similar specs to the Pure Drive but with an RA of 65. My aging arm can't take the Pure Drive much longer, but I need the power and maneuverability!

Haven't tried it myself but I've read great things about the new Pure drive team. Maybe not 65 but under 70. :)
 

Anton

Legend
Daniel, for the Nadal racquet, if they kept the PJ (Monte Carlo 2015) and did a heavy version "a la RF97" with Nadal specs, I would certainly buy it! It would be a great idea! Look at the RF97 sales! Of course, a lighter version for others should be available as well like the PS97.
I second the motion and would buy a pair without even demoing (given that it is lower stiffness like Nadal's racket).
 

LapsedNoob

Professional
Then I will have to forego a Babo until they change their philosophy, I guess. Racquet stiffness is the one thing I have to have right. I want to play this game until I am on old man. The rest I can sort out with silicone and lead.
To be honest that is expecting a lot. They've made most of their racquet cred on their stiffer frames.

I feel you though. I have this thing with Prince wherein I love them but have never found a racquet they make I've stuck with.
 

LapsedNoob

Professional
I just want a Soft Drive...maybe similar specs to the Pure Drive but with an RA of 65. My aging arm can't take the Pure Drive much longer, but I need the power and maneuverability!
IMO it wouldn't be a Pure Drive anymore if it was flexier. Its character is the power from the stiffness.
 

Lukhas

Legend
Then please start making a softer racquet. I loved the Pure Drive Tour (Roddick)but it was too stiff. I had to make my own out of a Head Extreme Team because there was nothing close in the Babo line. It comes in at 335 strung with a 325-330 swing weight and just crushes the ball. It is magic, but just not as good as the Pure Drive Tour.
The Pacific X-Fast Pro is often mentioned when the discussion is about a softer Pure Drive. The mold is, bar a few details ("technologies"), identical between the two frames.
 

mrtrinh

Professional
Here is the Truth. The so called Heavy version of RF97 initially sold ok as Roger was using the frame and all the Hype in the beginning. BUT here is the Big wakeup call. When the public quickly found out that so called Heavy version was a very very demanding racket to use, the Sales quickly DIED out. and the lighter version sold much much better after that.

This is the reason why I say, there is no need to make the so called Heavy version, especially in lite of the fact that Nadal will be using lighter spec version anyhow.........
Yes, yes, and yes
 

Babolat Official

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Heh heh, I doubt they'll ever mess with the DNA of the PD and take away it's natural born stiffness rating.

Am using the new PD 2015, gee it is stiff alright, but that's its nature.

Am wondering if my 50 yr-old shoulder will make peace with it or not, ugh.

With the Dunlop experiment of those stiffness sleeves perhaps not working out it looks like stiffness is the one area where the customer doesn't get to choose.
50% of racket performance comes from the string. Try natural gut. The best for comfort.
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
what string are you using and at what tension?
Please Please I beg you that when New Aeropro line rackets come out, Please maintain the swingweight low like that last version of Aeropro drives. as you mentioned earlier, 2013 aeropros swing very nicely and is very maneuverable and that was great for us, amateurs.
 

dgoran

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Please Please I beg you that when New Aeropro line rackets come out, Please maintain the swingweight low like that last version of Aeropro drives. as you mentioned earlier, 2013 aeropros swing very nicely and is very maneuverable and that was great for us, amateurs.
Naah make it blade like, with 330 sw...there is a reason why blade is very popular on tour

Dear "Nostradamus" you can always add few armbands to your playing hand to bring the balance point more head light and reduce swing-weight
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
thanks for the feedback
Dear Babolat official.

I must give you props. You are Indeed right in that 2013 Aeropro drives are more easier to maneuver than 2012 Pure drives. I went back to my 2012 pure drives today and I could feel the heavier swingweight on the volleys and rapid doubles Volleys. YOU were RIGHT, 2013 aeropros have better manuverablility and lower swing weight.

I am going to punch out more Holes in the Head guard of the 2012 Pure drives to see if I can make it more head light and more maneuverable. do you think that will work ?
 

dgoran

Hall of Fame
Dear Babolat official.

I must give you props. You are Indeed right in that 2013 Aeropro drives are more easier to maneuver than 2012 Pure drives. I went back to my 2012 pure drives today and I could feel the heavier swingweight on the volleys and rapid doubles Volleys. YOU were RIGHT, 2013 aeropros have better manuverablility and lower swing weight.

I am going to punch out more Holes in the Head guard of the 2012 Pure drives to see if I can make it more head light and more maneuverable. do you think that will work ?
Thanks for the feedback i would suggest buying tungsten tape and taping your pure drive from 9.75 o'clock to 2.75...
Just make sure you get the one labeled negative seven (+-7) on the packaging otherwise you could be adding instead of subtracting swingweight of your racquet...

good luck
 

JDMasFCK

Semi-Pro
Dear "Nostradamus" you can always add few armbands to your playing hand to bring the balance point more head light and reduce swing-weight
I can't stop laughing at this. He also needs to purchase the newest clothing to add more speed and endurance to his game.
 

Sparky

Semi-Pro
You have to be regular here to understand this one ;-)
Shorten your racquet, swingweight will go down.
Thanks for the feedback i would suggest buying tungsten tape and taping your pure drive from 9.75 o'clock to 2.75...
Just make sure you get the one labeled negative seven (+-7) on the packaging otherwise you could be adding instead of subtracting swingweight of your racquet...

good luck
I can't stop laughing at this. He also needs to purchase the newest clothing to add more speed and endurance to his game.

You members are so funny. I like the way you politely call a troll a "TROLL." Muahahahaha!!

Carry on my friends.. And thanks for the humor!

.lol
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
I can't stop laughing at this. He also needs to purchase the newest clothing to add more speed and endurance to his game.
Just remember that most of the public that buy rackets and drive the sales of the rackets are rated 3.0-4.5 players. mostly 3.5-4.0 on most part. and MOST of these amateurs use tweeners, NOT rackets with heavy swingweights like 330 or above.
 

themitchmann

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Thanks for the feedback i would suggest buying tungsten tape and taping your pure drive from 9.75 o'clock to 2.75...
Just make sure you get the one labeled negative seven (+-7) on the packaging otherwise you could be adding instead of subtracting swingweight of your racquet...

good luck
If he accidentally buys the wrong tape, he can simply apply it upside down to reduce SW ;)
 
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eaglesburg

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Please Please I beg you that when New Aeropro line rackets come out, Please maintain the swingweight low like that last version of Aeropro drives. as you mentioned earlier, 2013 aeropros swing very nicely and is very maneuverable and that was great for us, amateurs.
I agree. At least if it's lighter, people can lead it up anyways whereas if its too heavy we can't do anything bout it.
 

Lukhas

Legend
I agree. At least if it's lighter, people can lead it up anyways whereas if its too heavy we can't do anything bout it.
Yes but no. If you want a given swingweight for a given static weight in a depolarized setup, you can't do it easily if the base SW of the frame is too low. And not everyone likes extended length racquets (higher SW). AeroPro Lite is your friend. Why lowering the weight/SW of a frame when you can indeed lead up a lighter one? Well, show us the example and do it yourself.
 
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Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
Yes but no. If you want a given swingweight for a given static weight in a depolarized setup, you can't do it easily if the base SW of the frame is too low. And not everyone likes extended length racquets (higher SW). AeroPro Lite is your friend. Why lowering the weight/SW of a frame when you can indeed lead up a lighter one? Well, show us the example and do it yourself.
no and no. aeropro lite is standard length. and many people like the extended length since babolat makes them. you don't need the heavy version on the extended length since the extra length already increases the swingweight on its own.
 
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eaglesburg

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Yes but no. If you want a given swingweight for a given static weight in a depolarized setup, you can't do it easily if the base SW of the frame is too low. And not everyone likes extended length racquets (higher SW). AeroPro Lite is your friend. Why lowering the weight/SW of a frame when you can indeed lead up a lighter one? Well, show us the example and do it yourself.
It costs extra money for the lead. Why would I do that just to prove a point?
 

Lukhas

Legend
It costs extra money for the lead. Why would I do that just to prove a point?
It costs extra money to everyone. And either way, the APD (and Babs in general) always had a rather beefy SW. Only with the "current" generation (from Pure Drive 2012 to Pure Control 2014) the SW got about 10 to 20 points lighter. Any lighter and it's a toy considering its static weight; just like the late Pro Staff 95. Which is why I wrote the following: you're asking people to lead up if they're not satisfied with the lighter racquets. Similarly, I'm going to ask you to lead up a Lite version if the APD Standard is too heavy for you.
no and no. aeropro lite is standard length. and many people like the extended length since babolat makes them. you don't need the heavy version on the extended length since the extra length already increases the swingweight on its own.
You didn't understand what I was writing. Back to what I was saying: not everyone likes extended length racquet.
 
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dgoran

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It costs extra money to everyone. And either way, the APD (and Babs in general) always had a rather beefy SW. Only with the "current" generation (from Pure Drive 2012 to Pure Control 2014) the SW got about 10 to 20 points lighter. Any lighter and it's a toy considering its static weight; just like the late Pro Staff 95. Which is why I wrote the following: you're asking people to lead up if they're not satisfied with the lighter racquets. Similarly, I'm going to ask you to lead up a Lite version if the APD Standard is too heavy for you.

You didn't understand what I was writing. Back to what I was saying: not everyone likes extended length racquet.
You my friend are underestimating our Nostradamus here...make no mistake he understood exactly what you are saying...
 
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