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Russeljones

G.O.A.T.
King still has it.

He is supposedly working on a Stiverne - Wilder match in Egypt dubbed 'King of the Nile'

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/jul/22/don-king-bermane-stiverne-king-of-the-nile

Quite amazing that man at his advanced age can still be such a player in the sport.

Any thoughts on the match (if it happens)? I admit to not having watched much of either but it's safe to say they've both fought nobodies so far. I thought Wlad was going to work something out with Sauerland Promotions to get out of the Pulev match and strike a deal with King for a unification fight, but alas.

Discuss whatever interests you in the world of boxing, present or past.
 

Ronaldo

Talk Tennis Guru
King still has it.

He is supposedly working on a Stiverne - Wilder match in Egypt dubbed 'King of the Nile'

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/jul/22/don-king-bermane-stiverne-king-of-the-nile

Quite amazing that man at his advanced age can still be such a player in the sport.

Any thoughts on the match (if it happens)? I admit to not having watched much of either but it's safe to say they've both fought nobodies so far. I thought Wlad was going to work something out with Sauerland Promotions to get out of the Pulev match and strike a deal with King for a unification fight, but alas.

Discuss whatever interests you in the world of boxing, present or past.
King wants Tyson to comback to boxing.
 
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FedererWinsWimbledon2014

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King still has it.

He is supposedly working on a Stiverne - Wilder match in Egypt dubbed 'King of the Nile'

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/jul/22/don-king-bermane-stiverne-king-of-the-nile

Quite amazing that man at his advanced age can still be such a player in the sport.

Any thoughts on the match (if it happens)? I admit to not having watched much of either but it's safe to say they've both fought nobodies so far. I thought Wlad was going to work something out with Sauerland Promotions to get out of the Pulev match and strike a deal with King for a unification fight, but alas.

Discuss whatever interests you in the world of boxing, present or past.
I read that. Interesting stuff.

Carl Frampton is a good boxer.
 

Russeljones

G.O.A.T.
I read that. Interesting stuff.

Carl Frampton is a good boxer.
Still hasn't fought anyone of note, though. What do you see in his future? Obviously Rigondeaux is the best fighter in the category, and Martinez probably the most beatable. A Scott Quigg fight seems inevitable, doesn't it?

Guillermo Rigondeaux (14-0)
Scott Quigg (27-0-2)
Léo Santa Cruz (27-0-1)
Kiko Martinez (31-4)
 
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FedererWinsWimbledon2014

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Still hasn't fought anyone of note, though. What do you see in his future? Obviously Rigondeaux is the best fighter in the category, and Martinez probably the most beatable. A Scott Quigg fight seems inevitable, doesn't it?

Guillermo Rigondeaux (14-0)
Scott Quigg (27-0-2)
Léo Santa Cruz (27-0-1)
Kiko Martinez (31-4)
He is fighting Martinez for the IBF in September. He has already knocked him out so will start favourite.

Yes the Quigg fight is inevitable. Providing Frampton comes through Martinez that fight will take place. Eddie Hearn will keep Quigg safe in the meantime, doesn't won't to jeopardise the money fight.
 

Russeljones

G.O.A.T.
He is fighting Martinez for the IBF in September. He has already knocked him out so will start favourite.

Yes the Quigg fight is inevitable. Providing Frampton comes through Martinez that fight will take place. Eddie Hearn will keep Quigg safe in the meantime, doesn't won't to jeopardise the money fight.
Thanks for the heads up, I will take more interest in his fights in the future! Btw, Frampton has something like a 100-8 amateur record. Rigondeaux had close to 500 wins :shock:
 

Poisoned Slice

Bionic Poster
Anybody watching the Kell Brook vs Shawn Porter fight tonight?

Been waiting on this for a long time, to see if Kell really is the special one. I have my doubts and I'm going with the Porter win. I just think being over in America and wowing the judges, might be too much of a task.

I'd like to be wrong. Seems like a good fella and all.
 
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Nathaniel_Near

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I want to, but will be dead. Kell Brook is talented but I'm not sure if he's all tricks or a genuine top level tactician... no expert on him, though.
 
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Federer302

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Anybody watching the Kell Brook vs Shawn Porter fight tonight?

Been waiting on this for a long time, to see if Kell really is the special one. I have my doubts and I'm going with the Porter win. I just think being over in America and wowing the judges, might be too much of a task.

I'd like to be wrong. Seems like a good fella and all.
Probably record and watch tomorrow (as live)

I am picking Brook. Maybe fight Khan in the future.
 

Poisoned Slice

Bionic Poster
Was not expecting that at all.

When Jimmy Lennon Jr read out 117-111, I was like no way, this is nonsense, but not really surprising since this is normal when a British fighter fights in America.

Then he said new world champion. I jumped out of my seat.

Congratulations, Kell Brook.
 
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Nathaniel_Near

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A big-time win. Kell Brook was MUCH better than Porter - outclassed him despite Porter's impressive durability and hustle.
 

Russeljones

G.O.A.T.
Huge win for Brook, indeed. Khan is deluded if he thinks he can fight Mwayweather. Khan Brook would be a good Wembley fight.
 
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Federer302

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Huge win for Brook, indeed. Khan is deluded if he thinks he can fight Mwayweather. Khan Brook would be a good Wembley fight.
Floyd agreed to fight Khan, then Floyd screwed him over.

Khan Mayweather can happen but it is up to Floyd.

Yeah Khan Brook will be good.

A few good domestic rivalries.

Groves Degale Froch
Quigg Frampton
Bellew Cleverly

Also the HW division should be interesting with Joshua, Fury and Hyae also coming back.
 

Poisoned Slice

Bionic Poster
At least you know Amir Khan wont be screwed over by Eddie Hearn and Kell Brook. I'm thinking Khan gets the fight next May with Mayweather and if ( when) he gets beat he can still get a fight with Brook.

No doubt Eddie will do the usual dance and pull some 'experienced, dangerous journeyman' out of the hat for Brook to fight next. I guess you could do Porter vs Brook in England, but I don't really want to see this fight again.
 

Russeljones

G.O.A.T.
At least you know Amir Khan wont be screwed over by Eddie Hearn and Kell Brook. I'm thinking Khan gets the fight next May with Mayweather and if ( when) he gets beat he can still get a fight with Brook.

No doubt Eddie will do the usual dance and pull some 'experienced, dangerous journeyman' out of the hat for Brook to fight next. I guess you could do Porter vs Brook in England, but I don't really want to see this fight again.
Kahn would get destroyed by Mayweather if that fight ever happens (which I am not convinced will happen).
 
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Nathaniel_Near

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Not sure I'm following? Maidana busted Broner and Broner's ''Bro'', Mayweather, is putting the bully in his place. :lol:

Broner needs to actually box 12 rounds again.
 
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Federer302

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Carl Frampton fights for the Super Bantam Weight IBF world title on Saturday against Kiko Martinez of Spain.




https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CC0QFjAD&url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Frampton&ei=HFkEVNXgOIy2PdHQgfgN&usg=AFQjCNGI5BbPjE-qBJhU5OyvLe9L_E_XUw&bvm=bv.74115972,d.ZWU

Full Article too big to post https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCcQqQIwAQ&url=http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/sep/01/carl-frampton-belfast-mcguigan-ibf-super-bantamweight-kiko-martinez&ei=HFkEVNXgOIy2PdHQgfgN&usg=AFQjCNGdANO41li1Z2twDyJNZeYlzGIQRg&bvm=bv.74115972,d.ZWU

This is the big one,” Carl Frampton says quietly as it is almost time for him to leave London and return to his home city of Belfast for the most significant night of his life so far. “This is the world title fight I’ve spent 20 years working towards. It’s hard to believe I was just seven when I started boxing but I’ve put everything of myself into it. So this is going to be a huge night and it’s why I want to win so much.”

Frampton moves from wry detachment to concentrated intensity with a light touch. The most celebrated man in Northern Ireland is a fighter who transcends sectarian divisions and soothes raw wounds by uniting opposing communities whenever he steps into the ring. Frampton has spent the past three months in a typically rigorous training camp tucked away in a chic corner of Battersea. It is a long way from the staunchly loyalist territory of Tiger’s Bay in north Belfast, where Frampton grew up, or Poleglass, where his wife, Christine, was raised in the west of the city.

Their story is told simply and beautifully by Barry McGuigan, Frampton’s manager and the former great world champion featherweight of the 1980s, who once reminded me that “a young boxer from a hardened loyalist area fell for a girl from a hardened Republican area. He’s a great, bright kid and she’s amazingly clever and lovely. He’s a fighter and she’s a got a degree in criminology. It wasn’t meant to work – but of course it did. It shows hope for a new kind of Belfast.”

McGuigan could be talking about himself and how, on his way to the world title in 1985, he had also fallen for and then married Sandra, to whom he is still happily married 33 years later. They, too, crossed ancient battle lines as Barry, a Catholic, married a Protestant. Carl and Christine Frampton offer a modern mirror image of that marriage, while McGuigan remains the most striking example to his protege of everything a fighter can mean to a city and a country recovering from generations of strife.

On Saturday night, in the Titanic Quarter of Belfast, in an arena specially built for this fight, 16,000 fevered souls will roar on Frampton against the IBF super-bantamweight champion, Kiko Martínez. They have fought once before – 18 months ago in a brutal bout where Frampton’s eardrum was perforated before he stopped Martínez in the ninth round. The immensely tough Spaniard has since revived himself and become a world champion before Frampton.

Martínez and Frampton will face each other in the exact location where the Titanic was launched. The old shipyard cranes and the glittering new Titanic museum will provide the backdrop to a stark contest but the challenger will feel bolstered at home. His parents, pregnant wife and three-year-old daughter, Carla, will be at ringside, watching anxiously as the rest of the arena gives into delirious bedlam.

Will Frampton look for his family before the first bell? “Yeah. I’ll get into the ring, in my zone, but I’ll give them a wave and a nod. I always do that to Christine and my mum and dad.”

Frampton grins and then, shaking his head in a cheerfully resigned way, he talks about his mother, Flo, who works for Asda in north Belfast. His story is sparked by my asking if Flo is still as enthusiastic about his extraordinary fame in their home city. “My mum’s very vocal about me, aye,” he says with a wince. “She’s very proud. It’s just a bit embarrassing. She always finds a way, with people she doesn’t know, to say something like: ‘By the way, my son’s Carl Frampton. Do you want his autograph?’ – or something crap like that. Pretty much everyone knows because she’s already told them.”

The engagingly modest fighter, with an 18-0 record, laughs softly. “I say: ‘Flo, what are you doing?’ It doesn’t mean I love her any less. It’s just the way it is. A girl who works with Christine’s sister was recently in Asda shopping for suitcases. My mum was helping her and Flo said, dead casual: ‘I might need to buy one of these myself.’ The girl asked: ‘Why? Are you going on holiday?’ My ma, cool as you like, said: ‘My son might be boxing in America soon, maybe New York or Las Vegas, so I’ll need a suitcase’. The girl said: ‘Oh, right.’ My mum keeps chatting: ‘He’s Carl Frampton. Do you know him?’ When I heard this I just said: ‘Jesus Christ, Flo.’ It’s so embarrassing. My mum’s not very subtle.

“My dad is different. He still works in the local leisure centre and he’s the union rep and a shop steward. Dad is very grounded. He’s not bumptious or brash. He’s obviously proud but he’s completely the opposite to Flo in the way he shows it but my mum is cool.”

Frampton’s family is growing. His and Christine’s second child, and their first son, is due to be born in November but their daughter will be in Christine’s arms on Saturday night at ringside. “Carla’s going to be there for the first time,” Frampton says.


Behind the scenes of Carl Frampton’s fight against Jeremy Parodi in 2013.
“That’s partly because there’s no one to look after her as everyone wants to be at the fight but I want her there because it will be a special night. She may get frightened of the noise – and I do worry about that a little as I definitely don’t want to scare her.

“But I speak to her every time I go home [from training in London] and I say: ‘It’s going to be good, Carla. After I win this fight I’m going to lift you up in the ring and everyone’s going to be cheering you.’ She likes that and when training gets hard, and I’m missing them, I just think about that moment when, as world champion, I’ll lift her up in my arms in the ring.”

His first fight against Martínez was savage, with the Spaniard trying to march down Frampton at every opportunity. Even after Frampton won by a devastating knockout, his face was cut and swollen and, as he says coolly: ‘Kiko did bust my eardrum. It was a hard night and he is a hard man. Last time I genuinely annoyed him. He had pulled out of a couple of fights with me beforehand and he was talking about how he was going to chin me. I said: ‘You’re the guy who has pulled out twice. I wouldn’t be so confident.’ It got to him. I don’t think he’ll be as hostile as last time but it won’t be friendly. At the last press conference he said: ‘I don’t like Frampton’ but I don’t care. It doesn’t matter.

“I was at the fight against [South Africa’s] Jeffrey Mathebula when Kiko won the title. After the fight I gave Kiko a thumbs-up from ringside and he put his hand up. It was very nicey-nicey but his sister walked up to me. She didn’t speak any English and she was staring at me very aggressively. I thought: ‘What’s going on here?’ She then started talking and the translator told me that she said: ‘Next time, Kiko will kill you.’ I said: ‘All right, OK, no problem.’

“I got loads of abuse that night in Spain. I probably wound them up because it was around Christmas time last year and I wore a Christmas jumper and a Santa hat for a joke. I got up to walk around the ring so Barry could introduce me to Sergio Martínez [the formidable Argentinian middleweight] but as soon as they saw me the crowd booed the house down.”

Martínez will be on the wrong end of a vociferous atmosphere in Belfast. As intriguingly, with McGuigan managing and promoting Frampton, and his three sons and wife all playing key roles, the showdown with Martínez is another family affair. Blain and Jake McGuigan are heavily involved in the promotion while Shane, Barry’s youngest son, at 25, trains Frampton. They have done the hardest work at Shane’s gleaming gym in Battersea where famous actors and high-end clients arrive at unlikely hours to receive personal training from the impressive cornerman.

Frampton’s training fuses science with old-school dedication as Shane McGuigan also works as his nutritionist and conditioning coach. Shane leads a small team, which features a bioscientist and a neuro-musculoskeletal consultant in a “bespoke” training regime for Frampton. It is a long way from traditional gym talk where a wizened trainer might wheeze “get the bum outta there” as his most sophisticated pre-fight gambit.....
 
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Vcore89

G.O.A.T.
No one retires undefeated. Go out on your shield like a man, feet first.
But really, all the talk about him ducking (and I think so to a certain extent but Pacquiao's [glaring] last few defeats makes me wonder) someone...can he really be beat by Pacman?
 

Russeljones

G.O.A.T.
Not sure I'm following? Maidana busted Broner and Broner's ''Bro'', Mayweather, is putting the bully in his place. :lol:

Broner needs to actually box 12 rounds again.
They are not really bros anymore. The way I understand it they've been beefing on Twitter or something like that. It's just hard to point, with reasonable certainty, to a new opponent for Mayweather. He's always likely to throw a bone to someone he's beaten before, comfortably too.
 

Vcore89

G.O.A.T.
At least his wins will be legit, like Calzaghe's. Not fixed like Marciano's.
Calzaghe is my man, would've love to see him break 49 but maybe it's a bit pushing it.

Let Money gamble and go for the middle weight title. Or challenge Ronda Rousey
My money is absolutely on Ronda--in an octagon--she'll throw Money around like a rag doll! Maybe I'm a bit too carried away...let me say this though, Chris Weidman would absolutely kick Money's jackASS!:|
 

Vcore89

G.O.A.T.
The Duckman is scared of the Pacman.

Pacman did it to himself tough, getting punch in the face!:oops: Pacman vs JMM again to the umpteenth time?
 

Ronaldo

Talk Tennis Guru
Calzaghe is my man, would've love to see him break 49 but maybe it's a bit pushing it.



My money is absolutely on Ronda--in an octagon--she'll throw Money around like a rag doll! Maybe I'm a bit too carried away...let me say this though, Chris Weidman would absolutely kick Money's jackASS!:|
Mayweather is only 145#
 

Russeljones

G.O.A.T.
The Duckman is scared of the Pacman.

Pacman did it to himself tough, getting punch in the face!:oops: Pacman vs JMM again to the umpteenth time?
Pac would never have beaten Mayweather. Sorry to put it to you like this, but they are different class fighters.
 

Vcore89

G.O.A.T.
Pac would never have beaten Mayweather. Sorry to put it to you like this, but they are different class fighters.
I believe he was able to until the string of his most recent defeats pile on top of each other (scratch the Tim Bradley anomaly).

However, it would seem Money is/was indeed ducking the Pacman. Maybe, Money will give it a go once Pacman is on crutches or being push around in a wheelchair (to MGM).:( It would still be a megabucks fight.
 

Ronaldo

Talk Tennis Guru
I believe he was able to until the string of his most recent defeats pile on top of each other (scratch the Tim Bradley anomaly).

However, it would seem Money is/was indeed ducking the Pacman. Maybe, Money will give it a go once Pacman is on crutches or being push around in a wheelchair (to MGM).:( It would still be a megabucks fight.
This is an Arum problem
 

Vcore89

G.O.A.T.
Brook stabbed in Tenerife

ESPN staff
September 4, 2014

Kell Brook won the IBF world welterweight title in August © Getty Images


Kell Brook has been stabbed in the leg in Tenerife, the BBC has confirmed.
The IBF world welterweight champion, who is holidaying on the Spanish island with his pregnant partner Lindsey, is in hospital with injuries that are not considered to be life-threatening.
The Daily Telegraph have said Brook's condition is "stable".
Last month, Brook, 28, became the first British boxer in three decades to win a world title in the US in August after a majority points victory over Shawn Porter in California.
The incident - of which details are not yet clear - is the second time Brook has been stabbed after he was treated for wounds in his side and buttocks following an incident in a nightclub near his Sheffield home seven years ago.
Brook's next fight is scheduled for December 6 at the Sheffield Arena and he was planning to join Matchroom Sports' PR team for Floyd Mayweather's rematch with Marcos Maidana.
Along with Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao, Brook is the third of three world champions in the 147-pound weight division and he is being lined up for a blockbuster world title fight with Amir Khan at Wembley next year by promoter Eddie Hearn.
© ESPN Sports Media Ltd
 
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Federer302

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Carl Frampton v Kiko Martinez. Super Bantam-weight World Championship

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/boxing/28973146

My taxi driver, previously loud and hearty, fades to a hesitant whisper as the guns grow bigger above us. Guns wielded by men in balaclavas, bookended by the words: "Prepared for peace. Ready for war." Only a mural, but real enough.

A short trot down the Shore Road in north Belfast, situated in the staunchly loyalist enclave of Tiger's Bay, is the Midland Boxing Club. No gun-wielding men daubed on its exterior, just a kid in boxing gloves, proud as punch in an Ireland vest. If you thought the adage that boxing unites was trite, you should pay a visit.

Behind the doors, the kid in question is all grown up. And from the way Carl Frampton makes the heavy bag hiss and shudder, he is ready for war and peace can wait. So pity Kiko Martinez, whom Frampton challenges for the IBF super-bantamweight title in Belfast on Saturday.

Watching the 27-year-old intently is his manager Barry McGuigan, a former featherweight world champion and a hero to all of Ireland. Smart in a shirt and jacket, but set up to fight: feet perfectly positioned, head twitching, rolling with the blows.


"I don't want to boast about him too much," says McGuigan, "but when people get to know him, they're going to really love him. He's a bright kid, likeable, funny and he can really fight. He's a very special talent, no question about that."

Frampton doesn't fight like McGuigan used to fight. Both men can punch but whereas McGuigan was an all-out pressure fighter, Frampton can box going forwards or backwards. But beyond the ropes their stories are strikingly similar.


McGuigan was a Catholic from just south of the border who won a gold medal for Northern Ireland at the 1978 Commonwealth Games, fought for Ireland at the Olympics, married a Protestant and took British citizenship.
Frampton is a Protestant who won two Irish amateur titles (boxing, like rugby union, is an all-Ireland sport), a silver medal at the 2007 European Amateur Championships, married a Catholic and lives part-time in England.
"Carl is doing what I did," says McGuigan, whose son Shane, himself a former Ulster champion, is Frampton's principal trainer. "He's a beacon for peace and reconciliation and represents the future of Northern Ireland. Albeit, it's not as treacherous at the moment - we don't have the Troubles like we did back then."

McGuigan remembers when the gun-wielding men in balaclavas were a very real presence in Belfast and not restricted to murals. But even when there were soldiers on the streets, paramilitary groups exploding bombs and innocent people being killed, boxing managed to cut through the carnage.


"Growing up I'd hear stories about Barry boxing in the loyalist club on the Shankill Road, wearing the green vest with a shamrock on," says Frampton, who was born two years after McGuigan beat the great Eusebio Pedroza to claim the IBF featherweight crown, a fight watched by a television audience of 20 million.

"This was at the height of the Troubles, when the Shankill Butchers were around. But when it comes to boxing, no-one says a dickie bird.
"When Barry turned pro, there was that old saying: 'Leave the fighting to McGuigan.' It doesn't sound much, but when he was fighting, the trouble in the streets would stop for a couple of hours. He was a hero for both communities."

McGuigan boxed his first senior international, against East Germany, in a working men's club on the Shankill Road in the mid-1970s.
"There I was, a Catholic guy from the south boxing right in the heart of loyalist Belfast with the Troubles at their worst," says McGuigan, still amazed at the thought of it. "We beat the East Germans, my dad got up and sang and it was a brilliant night. Boxing was the one thing then that could unify people."

Almost 40 years on, what were a few twinkles on the Shankill and elsewhere have burst into light all over the land. But while Northern Ireland is an infinitely more peaceful place than it was, it's not quite goodbye to all that.


The house where Frampton grew up is in a so-called interface area. The unionist Tiger's Bay is separated from the nationalist New Lodge by 30ft-high fences, designed to repel petrol bombs and other missiles. On one side of the divide are Union Jack flags and kerbstones painted red, white and blue; on the other side are Irish tricolours and murals depicting republican martyrs. To an outsider, it is forbidding.

"The quickest way from Tiger's Bay to Belfast city centre is through New Lodge but I wouldn't go that way when I was a kid - you'd take the long way round," says Frampton. "I saw a lot of trouble. Riots would break out in an instant. It was dangerous, but when you're a kid it's exciting; you want to see it.

"A friend's brother, Glen Branagh was his name, lost his life in a riot. He was only 14. I tried to stay out of all that stuff as much as I could but when something like that happens, you don't want to see anything like it again."
On the other side of the fence is the famous Holy Family Boxing Club, which Frampton started visiting as a young kid. But he still remembers the first time he made the trip on foot, a measure of how momentous that short trip was.

"It was only a five-minute walk but we'd always go by car," he says. "But one day I was going over to spar and an old trainer from the Midland said we were going to walk in. I didn't want to. I was a wee bit shocked."


Frampton knocked Martinez out in the ninth round when they first met in Belfast last year Holy Family's head coach, the venerable Gerry Storey, had been waving his olive branch for decades. And between his four walls, Frampton was respected for what he was - just another working-class kid who wanted to box.

"We all knew we were in a tough sport," says Frampton, whose best man was the impish Paddy Barnes, a product of Holy Family, a two-time Olympic bronze medallist and a two-time Commonwealth Games champion.
"So it was a case of 'cut all the other nonsense out, boxing's tough enough without all that'.

"I get asked all the time, 'would you have liked to have boxed for Great Britain?' And the answer is no. I was looked after by Irish boxing from pretty much 11 years old and was very proud to box for Ireland."
Shane McGuigan, Carl Frampton and Barry McGuigan

There are a few guys to be taken care of at super-bantamweight, so the next goal is to unify the division. After that, I want to become a two-weight world champion



From the doorstep of his parents' house, Frampton can see the tops of the Harland and Wolff cranes, 'Samson' and 'Goliath', only half a mile away.
During the shipyard's heyday, labourers from Tiger's Bay made up the bulk of its workforce. Things got worse for the neighbourhood before they got better but that story has been told and a more uplifting chapter has started to unfold.

"There's still a bit of tension here," says Frampton, who now has a house in Lisburn, just south of Belfast, which he shares with wife Christine and daughter Carla. "But mostly it's fine now. I'm very proud to say I'm from Tiger's Bay."

Beneath those same cranes on Saturday, next to where the Titanic was built and launched, Frampton will attempt to hammer and bend Martinez to his will.

Frampton has already outgrown Belfast's indoor arenas and his fight against Martinez, whom he knocked out last year (in that weird way boxing works, the Spaniard got a world title shot first, beating Jhonatan Romero last August to claim the IBF title) will take place at a purpose-built arena holding 16,000, making it Northern Ireland's biggest ever boxing gate.

Dethrone Martinez and Frampton will become his country's first bona fide world champion since Wayne McCullough in 1996. But that's only the beginning.

"A world title fight at home at such a historic venue, a stadium built especially for me, it's hard to believe," says Frampton. "And it's very humbling to know that so many people are supporting me from all over Ireland and mainland UK.

"But once you reach that goal you have to start setting new goals. There are a few guys to be taken care of at super-bantamweight, so the next goal is to unify the division. After that, I want to become a two-weight world champion."

When our interview is done, an old boy covered in loyalist tattoos pulls up in his car, climbs out and heartily greets McGuigan. Little kids throw down their bikes, run home for scraps of paper and return for Frampton's autograph. It's a peaceful sight.

Listen to more from Frampton and McGuigan in a full preview on 5 live boxing on Thursday, 4 September, from 20:00 to 21:00 BST.

Listen to commentary on the fight on BBC 5 live from around 22:30 BST on Saturday night.
 

Vcore89

G.O.A.T.
Should watch this...

Should watch the Ken Buchanan - Roberto Duran bout.
Welterweight


Pacquiao and Floyd in 'serious negotiations'

ESPN staff
September 6, 2014

Manny Pacquiao takes on Chris Algieri in November © Getty Images


Manny Pacquiao says he and Floyd Mayweather are in "serious negotiations" for a £180 million mega-fight.
The two greatest fighters of their generation, Pacquiao and Mayweather came close to agreeing a bout in 2010, which, it is believed, could have generated a record $300m in pay-per-view revenue.
But the proposed fight fell through due to Mayweather's demands for Pacquiao to submit to blood testing in training.
Pacquiao last month said he wouldn't "waste time" waiting for Mayweather's call, however, the richest fight in history could be back on.
"There are serious negotiations with the Mayweather camp and my promoter," said Pacquiao, speaking during his press tour to promote his fight with Chris Algieri in November.
Asked if the bout would happen in May, Pacquiao added: "Probably for next year."
Earlier this week, Pacquiao's promoter Bob Arum expressed hope that the two could fight not once but twice in 2015, with the fighters' rival American HBO and Showtime networks keen to do a deal.
"Both [TV] networks want this to happen," Arum said. "All signs seem to point to a first fight early next year.
"A second fight in the autumn would provide a different cash split because the winner of the first would claim the higher percentage. As each of them believes he would win, that provides an extra incentive."
Mayweather, who takes on Marcos Maidana again in Las Vegas on Saturday week, has three fights left on his six-fight deal with Showtime. The final two are expected to happen in May and September next year.
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Welterweight


Pacquiao and Floyd in 'serious negotiations'

ESPN staff
September 6, 2014

Manny Pacquiao takes on Chris Algieri in November © Getty Images


Manny Pacquiao says he and Floyd Mayweather are in "serious negotiations" for a £180 million mega-fight.
The two greatest fighters of their generation, Pacquiao and Mayweather came close to agreeing a bout in 2010, which, it is believed, could have generated a record $300m in pay-per-view revenue.
But the proposed fight fell through due to Mayweather's demands for Pacquiao to submit to blood testing in training.
Pacquiao last month said he wouldn't "waste time" waiting for Mayweather's call, however, the richest fight in history could be back on.
"There are serious negotiations with the Mayweather camp and my promoter," said Pacquiao, speaking during his press tour to promote his fight with Chris Algieri in November.
Asked if the bout would happen in May, Pacquiao added: "Probably for next year."
Earlier this week, Pacquiao's promoter Bob Arum expressed hope that the two could fight not once but twice in 2015, with the fighters' rival American HBO and Showtime networks keen to do a deal.
"Both [TV] networks want this to happen," Arum said. "All signs seem to point to a first fight early next year.
"A second fight in the autumn would provide a different cash split because the winner of the first would claim the higher percentage. As each of them believes he would win, that provides an extra incentive."
Mayweather, who takes on Marcos Maidana again in Las Vegas on Saturday week, has three fights left on his six-fight deal with Showtime. The final two are expected to happen in May and September next year.
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Carl Frampton beats Kiko Martinez to become IBF world champion

By Ben Dirs
BBC Sport, in Belfast


Northern Ireland's Carl Frampton outpointed Spain's Kiko Martinez in Belfast's Titanic Quarter to secure the world IBF super-bantamweight title.
In front of 16,000 fiercely partisan fans in a purpose-built outdoor arena, Frampton controlled the fight throughout and floored the champion in the fifth round.

Martinez demonstrated remarkable durability to make it to the final bell but the judges scored the fight 119-108, 119-108, 118-111 - all in Frampton's favour.

The 27-year-old had knocked Martinez out last February to win the European crown, only for the Spaniard to win the IBF title six months later.
"I've got the world title!" Frampton told BBC Radio 5 live after adding the IBF belt. "I feel a bit emotional - it has been a long time coming, it has been a hard road.


Frampton is managed and promoted by former featherweight world champion Barry McGuigan, who was such a unifying force during Northern Ireland's Troubles in the 1980s, and trained by Barry's son Shane.
McGuigan Sr said after the fight: "I love him like a son - he's a part of me and I know how talented he is.

"He showed us his bravery tonight and he certainly showed the skills he's got. He's really got a tremendous future ahead of him."
The victory for the Tiger's Bay native, which makes him his country's first world champion since fellow Belfast fighter Wayne McCullough in 1996, provided more cause for celebrations across Northern Ireland and beyond.
As well as the United Kingdom and Ireland, the fight was broadcast in the United States, South America, China, Japan and the Middle East.
As for McGuigan Sr, he will be relieved as well as elated, having pumped a huge amount of money into the event (it was the country's biggest gate for a boxing match by some distance) and brought Martinez over from Spain at considerable cost.

Martinez had defended his title twice since stopping Jhonatan Romero last August and promised to gain revenge over Frampton, the only man to knock him out in 35 previous fights as a professional.



He won a cagey first round courtesy of a couple of snappy right crosses before the fight opened up in the second, Martinez trying his luck with some swingeing right hands and Frampton having success on the counter.
Frampton, fighting on the back foot for the most part, repeatedly made Martinez look clumsy in the third, suggesting that the champion was starting to unravel.

The challenger continued to control proceedings in the fourth, keeping the stalking Martinez at bay with jabs and two-shot combinations, although Frampton did mix things up with one juddering uppercut.
Martinez was lucky not to be docked a point at the start of the fifth, having hit a prone Frampton on the back of the head. But Frampton exacted sweet revenge, flooring his rival with a short, chopping right towards the end of the round.

Martinez, bleeding from the cut over his left eye, was up almost immediately and straight back at Frampton, but was picked apart some more in the sixth.
The seventh was Martinez's best round of the fight, the Spaniard landing with a couple of those looping right hands. But Frampton was back in control in the eighth, drawing Martinez on to some hurtful left-right combinations.


Frampton was showing a cut over the right eye at the start of the ninth, which was a difficult round to score, and the 10th round was grim stuff as both men traded toe-to-toe on the inside, although Frampton landed the cleaner shots.

A battered and bruised Martinez looked close to folding in the 11th as Frampton rained blows upon him, but the man from Alicante proved that he is as game as they come by extending the contest into the final round.
Martinez looked ready to go again midway through the 12th but was still trading blows when the final bell sounded. But the result was never in doubt.
Frampton is now one of four world champions from the United Kingdom, alongside Carl Froch, Kell Brook and Scott Quigg.

British fight fans would now like to see Frampton fight Bury's WBA title-holder Quigg but American Chris Avalos is the IBF's mandatory challenger.
Martinez was given special dispensation to fight Frampton instead of Avalos but the 24-year-old Californian is likely to get his chance next spring, especially given that he recently teamed up with British promoter Eddie Hearn.

Quigg, 25, defends his portion of the WBA title (Cuba's Guillermo Rigondeaux is their so-called 'super' champion and regarded as the best in the division) against Belgium's Stephane Jamoye in Manchester on 13 September.

But Frampton, who emerged from his triumphant night with a badly marked face and a damaged hand, will now take a well-earned holiday with his wife Christine and daughter Carla before weighing up his option
 

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Brook: I feared I would die after holiday stabbing

ESPN staff
September 13, 2014



Kell Brook pull off a stunning upset to defeat Shawn Porter in Los Angeles last month © Getty Images


Kell Brook says he has gone from the "top of the world to the bottom of the ocean" since he was stabbed in the leg while on holiday last week.
The British fighter pulled off a stunning upset to defeat Shawn Porter and claim the IBF welterweight world title last month, but just weeks later he was in hospital after an attack on the island of Tenerife.


Now Brook has explained how he feared he would die after being hit with a "machete" in an "unprovoked" assault on September 4 while on holiday with his young family. "It's been, what... three, four weeks since I won the world title?" Brook told the Daily Mail. "Why? Why this? I've gone from the top of the world to the bottom of the ocean.


"It had been a nice holiday. I was on such a high. I'd had three previous world title fights postponed and was waiting for my chance. Training and training and waiting. I go to the US and win the world title in Porter's backyard. It was the dream from when I was a boy.


"Lindsey [Brook's partner] is 20 weeks pregnant with another little girl. I wanted a holiday with her while we can still fly. I'd won the title, got my dream, came back to Sheffield for a few days and I wanted to get away.
"Tenerife was right for us - nice weather, not far to fly, lots of English-speaking people. Me, my partner, our little girl and the bump. It was nice. We went to the zoos, did the excursions, enjoyed the sun and enjoyed each other. We'd been there about two weeks.'


Brook explained that he had been out for a meal with his partner when she decided to head home. He had been chatting to some holidaymakers, who then invited him to a bar. From there, he made his way to a party at the bar manager's apartment after deciding to have his first night out in months.


"In the bar manager's apartment is where the guy was," Brook said. "That's when I first saw him. [After a while] the girl and her partner said they had work in the morning, time to go. This kid was left there.
"He said let's go for a drink at his apartment. I was just going with it. I knew I would feel rough but I was coming back home (the next day) and going straight into training for the next fight. Blow out, as they say. I am not too used to drinking.


"I got to his place, had a few more drinks, and got into a general chat about things. Then suddenly the mood switched. This guy started going on about street fighting."[He was saying] a boxer can't compete with a street fighter. I went from being comfortable to it switching without reason. This place, in his apartment, the kitchen and living room is close together. Everything is just a hand away from you. He was in the kitchen and I was in the living room. Without warning or caution, one swipe.'


Having gone from drinking with his alleged assailant, Brook was then attacked by him with a blade he describes as a "machete" about a foot long. "I was a victim of an unprovoked attack," Brook said. "Without warning, I was getting [hit with a] machete by this guy to my leg.


"The next minute I was trying to find my feet but my leg wasn't working. There was so much blood spurting out and it was a tile floor. I lost my balance and fell. I remember scrambling about, trying to get out. I was just thinking I need to get out. I could see death.


"This guy was stood over me, shouting and swearing. I am trying to scramble away. I was thinking about my daughter, that I need to get away. I was covered in blood, panicking, feeling so drained and weak from the loss of blood. I feared for my life."


Brook cannot remember what happened next, although he appears to have been able to escape and raise the alarm. The next thing he recalls is waking up in hospital after two-hours of surgery to a deep gash in his left thigh.


"I don't know how much blood I lost but I was told it was a lot," Brook said. "I couldn't understand much [but] I heard 'critical'. It was so scary. I was panicking, "Will I fight again? Will I walk again?" [The doctors] couldn't say, but they were so calm."


Now back in Britain, Brook hopes to be running again by late November and insists the attack will not stop him from furthering his career.
Brook is targeting a fight with Amir Khan, with discussions about a possible 2015 bout already underway before the incident in Tenerife.
"I'll smash him," Brook said. "I'm thinking positive because I have to, but believe me, I will get better and then I'll smash Amir Khan."
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Poisoned Slice

Bionic Poster
Get well soon. Greatest moment of your career, followed by a stabbing on holiday. That's life.

Congratulations to Carl Frampton :)

I forgot all about this Floyd Mayweather fight later. I've got box nation on my TV, but I'm not excited at all for it. Once was enough for me.
 

Vcore89

G.O.A.T.
Two last fights for Mayweather after Maidana, will he retire undefeated? Hope Mayweather versus Amir Khan will happen in May 2015.
 
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