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Poisoned Slice

Bionic Poster
What about Pacman vs Thurman on July 20th. Is Pacman going to turn back the clock and knock one time clean out? Erik Morales seems to think so. Says it will be easy work for Pacman. We shall see.
 

K-H

Hall of Fame
Thurman is underrated man.
Guy defeated Porter, Garcia back to back. He's a good a fighter. He can scrap as well like we saw in those two fights
Yeah I'd like to see him fight Spence but the time will come. You don't just go fighting the best every fight. You have to be a bit smart about things
 

Poisoned Slice

Bionic Poster
RIP to one of the best boxer/entertainer. Did Pretty Boy really win against him?
Pretty Boy still had much to learn when they sparred. Pernell gave Floyd a lesson similar to the one he gave to uncle Roger Mayweather. Jeff Mayweather didn't watch it but he says Floyd won easily. Or maybe I just imagined that.

Time to watch Whitaker vs Chavez and Whitaker vs McGirt 1 again. To hear Larry Merchant wax lyrical about the beautiful music he was watching. ''Hooking, jabbing, this is great stuff.''
 

Poisoned Slice

Bionic Poster
Whoever wins, gets Lomachenko?
I'm not sure about Thurman, I'm wondering about his lack of activity. Have to see if Lomachenko can get through the test of Luke Campbell. I'm quite looking forward to that one compared to how I felt about Lomachenko vs Crolla. I think Campbell has more to give.
 

Poisoned Slice

Bionic Poster
The co main event is one of those ugly one sided beatings that nearly put you to sleep. And it goes the distance. The one handing out the beating does nothing for me. Thankfully it is over.
 

Poisoned Slice

Bionic Poster
How did you score it? It was a very close fight. Idk. I had it 115-112 for pac.
I like that score.

I didn't score it. Pacman just looked in control all the way, even when Thurman was having some success. It didn't look like he was hurting Manny at all. Thurman was in survival mode a couple of times. That body shot must have been a real rib tickler.

Really impressive from Pacquaio tonight.
 

Poisoned Slice

Bionic Poster
@-NN- Thoughts on Thurman, I remember you being big on him a while back, and what about the welterweight division more generally?
Amir Khan is shining like a diamond gen. The rest are playing catch up. Looks like another case of Amir Khan being so behind in the race he thinks he is leading the Manny sweepstake.

Read a thread about Manny's stamina. That was clear as day last night. You could see him slowing down and Thurman started having more success. I'd like to see Pacman vs Spence. Too much for Manny?
 

Ronaldo

Talk Tennis Guru
Amir Khan is shining like a diamond gen. The rest are playing catch up. Looks like another case of Amir Khan being so behind in the race he thinks he is leading the Manny sweepstake.

Read a thread about Manny's stamina. That was clear as day last night. You could see him slowing down and Thurman started having more success. I'd like to see Pacman vs Spence. Too much for Manny?
Forgot about Porter/Spence. 2020 for the next bout
 

Chicharito

Hall of Fame
Amir Khan is shining like a diamond gen. The rest are playing catch up. Looks like another case of Amir Khan being so behind in the race he thinks he is leading the Manny sweepstake.

Read a thread about Manny's stamina. That was clear as day last night. You could see him slowing down and Thurman started having more success. I'd like to see Pacman vs Spence. Too much for Manny?

I would say yes, too much. Spence is BIG.

I didnt see the fight but I read Pacquiao looked the most beat up since Margarito fight.

I would like the Crawford fight for Manny.
 

Ronaldo

Talk Tennis Guru
I would say yes, too much. Spence is BIG.

I didnt see the fight but I read Pacquiao looked the most beat up since Margarito fight.

I would like the Crawford fight for Manny.
I would say yes, too much. Spence is BIG.

I didnt see the fight but I read Pacquiao looked the most beat up since Margarito fight.

I would like the Crawford fight for Manny.
Terrance Crawford may be the toughest opponent for Manny
 

Poisoned Slice

Bionic Poster
I would say yes, too much. Spence is BIG.

I didnt see the fight but I read Pacquiao looked the most beat up since Margarito fight.

I would like the Crawford fight for Manny.
I'm not really sure about the comparison with Margarito because I haven't been following him so closely anymore. But after watching last night it is clear he still has it. It as far as being able to do certain things. Hands still fast.

Just letting you know I was nowhere near Portrush. Few of the guys went down, my close mate went down for Saturday and today. Made the decision that watching golf live again is not for me. TV all the way. :p
 

Chicharito

Hall of Fame
I'm not really sure about the comparison with Margarito because I haven't been following him so closely anymore. But after watching last night it is clear he still has it. It as far as being able to do certain things. Hands still fast.

Just letting you know I was nowhere near Portrush. Few of the guys went down, my close mate went down for Saturday and today. Made the decision that watching golf live again is not for me. TV all the way. :p
Haha. I went in with low expectations. Yes, I saw very little actual golf but did enjoy the day.
 

hollywood9826

Hall of Fame
Teddy Atlas was very impressed with how Pac can still be so active. Said whatever supplements he is taking I want them. Meant it as a complement I took it as, yup he's got some of them phillpino designer steroids :)

Thurman was sluggish, had too much ring rust. He don't fight enough. If he gets a rematch things will go differently.

Pac don't care about mandatory challengers or rematches at this point he just wants money fights, so I am assuming Thurman wont get a rematch as I don't think he did enough in this one to gain the fans he needed to draw.

The Canelo thing is a pipe dream but is probaboly the biggest fight they could make right now from a financial standpoint. But I think everyone knows Pac ain't on that level.
 

ACE of Hearts

Talk Tennis Guru
Teddy Atlas was very impressed with how Pac can still be so active. Said whatever supplements he is taking I want them. Meant it as a complement I took it as, yup he's got some of them phillpino designer steroids :)

Thurman was sluggish, had too much ring rust. He don't fight enough. If he gets a rematch things will go differently.

Pac don't care about mandatory challengers or rematches at this point he just wants money fights, so I am assuming Thurman wont get a rematch as I don't think he did enough in this one to gain the fans he needed to draw.

The Canelo thing is a pipe dream but is probaboly the biggest fight they could make right now from a financial standpoint. But I think everyone knows Pac ain't on that level.
How would things go differently? I think
Thurman gets knocked out in a rematch. Pacquiao should have gone to the body more. Thurman has a weak body. That liver shot just stopped in his tracks in the 10th round.
 

ACE of Hearts

Talk Tennis Guru
Teddy Atlas was very impressed with how Pac can still be so active. Said whatever supplements he is taking I want them. Meant it as a complement I took it as, yup he's got some of them phillpino designer steroids :)

Thurman was sluggish, had too much ring rust. He don't fight enough. If he gets a rematch things will go differently.

Pac don't care about mandatory challengers or rematches at this point he just wants money fights, so I am assuming Thurman wont get a rematch as I don't think he did enough in this one to gain the fans he needed to draw.

The Canelo thing is a pipe dream but is probaboly the biggest fight they could make right now from a financial standpoint. But I think everyone knows Pac ain't on that level.
Tell me who canelo has fought? Mayweather made him look silly. Whose to say Pacquiao wouldn’t outbox him. Canelo lost the first fight to golovkin.
 

hollywood9826

Hall of Fame
Tell me who canelo has fought? Mayweather made him look silly. Whose to say Pacquiao wouldn’t outbox him. Canelo lost the first fight to golovkin.
Mayweather makes everyone look silly, its why he is the best. Canelo probably did lose that 1st GGG fight, the second one was close as well, but GGG is ultra high level and on a level above what Pac can only dream of at this advanced age.
Pac vs Canelo aint happeneing, and def not at some catch weight. Canelo at weigh in at 154 would probably have close to 20 lbs on pac once they stepped into the ring


Thurman fought one warm up fight for this one and before that he was on the shelf for 2 years. maybe that sapped his KO power as well, but he got snuck in the 1st (credit to pac) and didnt recover very well. If he were to get another shot at pac I just think he would be more aggresive and not get caught early.
 

Sysyphus

G.O.A.T.
How so? Pacquiao has taken on bigger fighters. Did you forget who he fought this past weekend? He has fought Cotto. Margarito etc.
Whatcha talkin' about. None of those guys were ever natural middleweights.

Canelo on the other hand has no problem filling out at 168 these days. He is thicc, outgrew 154 a long time ago, whereas Pac is a small 147 (and to my knowledge has never even had a fight above that weight class).

If they fight at a weight where Ginger is alive and conscious, he bullies Pac. If they fight at a weight where Pac is competitive, Canelo would have to enter the ring on life-support and in a coma.

There are weight classes in boxing for a reason. Pacquiao has admirably plowed through 8 of those weight classes in his illustrious career, but this is several bridges too far at this point.
 

ACE of Hearts

Talk Tennis Guru
Whatcha talkin' about. None of those guys were ever natural middleweights.

Canelo on the other hand has no problem filling out at 168 these days. He is thicc, outgrew 154 a long time ago, whereas Pac is a small 147 (and to my knowledge has never even had a fight above that weight class).

If they fight at a weight where Ginger is alive and conscious, he bullies Pac. If they fight at a weight where Pac is competitive, Canelo would have to enter the ring on life-support and in a coma.

There are weight classes in boxing for a reason. Pacquiao has admirably plowed through 8 of those weight classes in his illustrious career, but this is several bridges too far at this point.
Didn’t I say a catch weight in between? Canelo has fought good but this guy has been given some gift decisions. He lost the first fight to golovkin and the second fight i had a draw.
 

Sysyphus

G.O.A.T.
Didn’t I say a catch weight in between? Canelo has fought good but this guy has been given some gift decisions. He lost the first fight to golovkin and the second fight i had a draw.
Yes, I get what you are saying.

My point is that I don't think there is a realistic catch-weight for these two guys at this point, the size difference is too big. But even if Canelo was able to still drain himself down to 154, I think Hollywood is correct above: in the ring, he'd still be ~20lbs heavier than Pac. Not a fair fight.

For the record, I agree that Canelo gets gift decisions. I gave GGG the nod in both their bouts personally (second one was tight). There is hardly a fighter I'd be more happy to watch lose.
 

Poisoned Slice

Bionic Poster
Golovkin won both fights. He beat Canelo like Federer beat Djokovic at Wimbledon.

Teddy Atlas was very impressed with how Pac can still be so active. Said whatever supplements he is taking I want them. Meant it as a complement I took it as, yup he's got some of them phillpino designer steroids :)

Thurman was sluggish, had too much ring rust. He don't fight enough. If he gets a rematch things will go differently.

Pac don't care about mandatory challengers or rematches at this point he just wants money fights, so I am assuming Thurman wont get a rematch as I don't think he did enough in this one to gain the fans he needed to draw.

The Canelo thing is a pipe dream but is probaboly the biggest fight they could make right now from a financial standpoint. But I think everyone knows Pac ain't on that level.
Teddy wasn't on the commentator team on the channel I watched. When it showed you a clip of Manny smiling and taking social media pictures I could just imagine Teddy cracking up. Next time it showed him he was warming up with Freddie Roach. Thank goodness. For Teddy's sake.

I'd fancy the senator in a rematch as well. But I agree that I doubt there is much chance of it happening.
 

hollywood9826

Hall of Fame
Golovkin won both fights. He beat Canelo like Federer beat Djokovic at Wimbledon.



Teddy wasn't on the commentator team on the channel I watched. When it showed you a clip of Manny smiling and taking social media pictures I could just imagine Teddy cracking up. Next time it showed him he was warming up with Freddie Roach. Thank goodness. For Teddy's sake.

I'd fancy the senator in a rematch as well. But I agree that I doubt there is much chance of it happening.
ESPN don't let him to live broadcasts anymore. ESPN singed a deal with Top Rank and Atlas basically said a fight was rigged in favor of one their fighters. Then a new announcer comes in and Teddy bashed his credentials. He just sportscenterish studio work.

A few years back ESPN2 had Teddy Michelle Beadle and few other people that would rotate in and out watching college football bowl games. Teddy was freaking gold in that I think he's great. So what if half the stuff he says makes no sense to anyone. I can tell its makes sense to him and that is all that matters.
 
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