Break Point - Vince Spadea

Rabbit

G.O.A.T.
I just finished this book. All in all, it's an OK read. The premise of the book is a year long "dear diary" type narrative of the ATP tour. There are some really good and bad stories in here.

Spadea starts off in really good fashion, talking about Andre Agassi. He shares his personal experiences with Agassi, first as a junior and then as a competitor. He recounts how Agassi treated him as a hitting partner when he was a junior and later as a fellow member of the tour.

Spadea basically goes through his year on tour, tournament to tournament. It's interesting to read his entries just prior to a big match and then afterward...espeically when he loses which is more often than I thought. He is very candid about his feelings on tour after losing and he gives fairly good blow by blows and his recollection of why he lost.

Also very interesting are his views on other players. He details what he sees as strengths and weaknesses in quite a few players. (All of whom I think are still on tour.)

The downside of the book, IMO, is Spadea's entries regarding women, relationships, and dating in general. Of course, from the perspective of someone who's been married a long time, this all seems pretty juvenile and I wish he hadn't put it in the book. I think mentioning it once would have sufficed, but Spadea feels compelled to go back again and again to the topic. I found myself basically skipping these stories.

The best story in the book had to do with Spadea losing to an unheralded player in a tournament in Los Angeles. Spadea was in a funk and lost to a guy who basically was a qualifier from the satellites. After losing to him, Spadea went to some public courts in the area to practice. The courts were basically full and he said he came across an older guy, in his 50s sitting on a bench outside an empty court. Spadea asked the guy if that was his court and he said yes but asked Spadea if he wanted to hit. Spadea said sure. Spadea told the guy he was a teaching pro.

The man didn't recognize Spadea, interestingly to Spadea's relief and chagrin at the same time. They began to hit. Spadea was taking it easy on the guy and finding himself getting a good warm up. They began to play some points, the guy asked Spadea to start bringing up the intensity; Spadea did as he was asked.

After 15 minutes, the guy's partner showed up. The guy told his partner to hit some with Spadea. Spadea obliged. The second guy remarked on how good Spadea was, and that he should probably try the tour. They offerred some encouragment to Spadea telling him that a local player had just defeated a regular on the tour and that if he could do it, Spadea coutd too!

The local player they were referring to was the player who had just beat Spadea. :) Spadea said he finished up, got his stuff, left, and never told them who he was.

I thought that was funnier than hell. All in all, I'd recommend the book. Most of it is an interesting read and there are some great insights into how players think and live on the tour.
 

maverick66

Hall of Fame
what did it say that angered james blake so much. i heard that a he was really mad at spadea for making look bad in the book.
 

BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
I read it when it first came out several months ago. I had to since it was named after me after all. ;) LOL

It was a fun read with some interesting tidbits (like the real reason why Clijsters broke up with Hewitt, etc.) but there were also quite a few factual errors in the book. Obviously, the editor of the book is not a serious tennis fan nor an expert on the sport.
 

nickarnold2000

Hall of Fame
I read it when it first came out several months ago. I had to since it was named after me after all. ;) LOL

It was a fun read with some interesting tidbits (like the real reason why Clijsters broke up with Hewitt, etc.) but there were also quite a few factual errors in the book. Obviously, the editor of the book is not a serious tennis fan nor an expert on the sport.
So, why did Clijsters breakup with Hewitt?
 

Phil

Hall of Fame
I just finished this book. All in all, it's an OK read. The premise of the book is a year long "dear diary" type narrative of the ATP tour. There are some really good and bad stories in here.

Spadea starts off in really good fashion, talking about Andre Agassi. He shares his personal experiences with Agassi, first as a junior and then as a competitor. He recounts how Agassi treated him as a hitting partner when he was a junior and later as a fellow member of the tour.

Spadea basically goes through his year on tour, tournament to tournament. It's interesting to read his entries just prior to a big match and then afterward...espeically when he loses which is more often than I thought. He is very candid about his feelings on tour after losing and he gives fairly good blow by blows and his recollection of why he lost.

Also very interesting are his views on other players. He details what he sees as strengths and weaknesses in quite a few players. (All of whom I think are still on tour.)

The downside of the book, IMO, is Spadea's entries regarding women, relationships, and dating in general. Of course, from the perspective of someone who's been married a long time, this all seems pretty juvenile and I wish he hadn't put it in the book. I think mentioning it once would have sufficed, but Spadea feels compelled to go back again and again to the topic. I found myself basically skipping these stories.

The best story in the book had to do with Spadea losing to an unheralded player in a tournament in Los Angeles. Spadea was in a funk and lost to a guy who basically was a qualifier from the satellites. After losing to him, Spadea went to some public courts in the area to practice. The courts were basically full and he said he came across an older guy, in his 50s sitting on a bench outside an empty court. Spadea asked the guy if that was his court and he said yes but asked Spadea if he wanted to hit. Spadea said sure. Spadea told the guy he was a teaching pro.

The man didn't recognize Spadea, interestingly to Spadea's relief and chagrin at the same time. They began to hit. Spadea was taking it easy on the guy and finding himself getting a good warm up. They began to play some points, the guy asked Spadea to start bringing up the intensity; Spadea did as he was asked.

After 15 minutes, the guy's partner showed up. The guy told his partner to hit some with Spadea. Spadea obliged. The second guy remarked on how good Spadea was, and that he should probably try the tour. They offerred some encouragment to Spadea telling him that a local player had just defeated a regular on the tour and that if he could do it, Spadea coutd too!

The local player they were referring to was the player who had just beat Spadea. :) Spadea said he finished up, got his stuff, left, and never told them who he was.

I thought that was funnier than hell. All in all, I'd recommend the book. Most of it is an interesting read and there are some great insights into how players think and live on the tour.

Thanks for the review, Rabbit. Funny story about the duffers giving Vince some pointers for going pro! About the dating/relationship part, being your exact opposite (a long-time single person), I'm thinking I may not be so inclined to skip over them-even if they are juvenile;)
 

BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
ooohhhhh this is great. which one?
I think Spadea dared not to name her for fear that Hewitt would go ballistic (like he does on the court), but if I remember correctly, he mentioned that Hewitt's coach might have also been "involved". Menage a trois, anyone? :-o ;)
 

power_play21

Semi-Pro
I think Spadea dared not to name her for fear that Hewitt would go ballistic (like he does on the court), but if I remember correctly, he mentioned that Hewitt's coach might have also been "involved". Menage a trois, anyone? :-o ;)

hahaa omg. im gonna end up getting this stupid book.
 

goober

Legend
From the reviews I read, this book actually gives out very little dirt or insider information on other current pros.

Perhaps he should have waited to retire before writing this?
 

power_play21

Semi-Pro
but by the time he retires we wont wanna read about todays current pros. at least i wont. wait, do u mean when he retires tennis in like a year, or wen he retires and gets social security when hes 60?

o god, im listening to this song that is so good i cant believe it.
 

goober

Legend
but by the time he retires we wont wanna read about todays current pros. at least i wont. wait, do u mean when he retires tennis in like a year, or wen he retires and gets social security when hes 60?

Well of course I meant when he retires from tennis which I assume will be in a couple years given his age. He probably be more willing to dish out the dirt if he didn't have to face the people he is writing about IRL. I may buy it when it goes on the bargain bin which I suspect won't be that long. I mean how many people outside of true tennis fans are really going to buy this thing?
 

power_play21

Semi-Pro
Well of course I meant when he retires from tennis which I assume will be in a couple years given his age. He probably be more willing to dish out the dirt if he didn't have to face the people he is writing about IRL. I may buy it when it goes on the bargain bin which I suspect won't be that long. I mean how many people outside of true tennis fans are really going to buy this thing?

none. im gonna wait till its for like 80 cents on amazon lol.
 

Rabbit

G.O.A.T.
Hey, the guy is a tennis pro. He did good for himself IMO.

I think Blake got steamed at Spadea because Spadea relates a story of Blake not having the "all-American boy nice guy" image in real life.
 

Cavallino

Rookie
Hey, the guy is a tennis pro. He did good for himself IMO.

I think Blake got steamed at Spadea because Spadea relates a story of Blake not having the "all-American boy nice guy" image in real life.

Cause he's a tennis pro doesn't mean he's not stupid.
 

Rabbit

G.O.A.T.
Cause he's a tennis pro doesn't mean he's not stupid.

"Doesn't mean he's not stupid"

OK, so you are saying he is stupid? I take it the double negative Not Not Stupid would imply that he is stupid.

For your edification, I was saying that Spadea was more John Elway than John Grisham and as such had done well for himself. Maybe you'd care to explain your comment?
 

Craig Sheppard

Hall of Fame
Let's just say that Hewitt was involved in some "extra-curricular activities" with another female tennis pro. ;)

BP man, what's with all the evasive language? It's printed in the daggone book, just say it straight out! We can all go and pick up the book, are you getting some dough from sales or something?!
 

BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
BP man, what's with all the evasive language? It's printed in the daggone book, just say it straight out! We can all go and pick up the book, are you getting some dough from sales or something?!
Nope, I just don't want to get sued for libel on a public Internet board nor do I want to get banned by TW again for starting rumours. So just playing it safe. :D

BTW, don't you think that I should be getting some dough from the sales since he did use my name for the book? ;) LOL
 

Craig Sheppard

Hall of Fame
Nope, I just don't want to get sued for libel on a public Internet board nor do I want to get banned by TW again for starting rumours. So just playing it safe. :D

BTW, don't you think that I should be getting some dough from the sales since he did use my name for the book? ;) LOL

FINE! *You* made me look up this book at my local public library, and *you* are going to make me actually go there and pick it up. I hope you're happy! Score... don't have to buy it.
 

BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
FINE! *You* made me look up this book at my local public library, and *you* are going to make me actually go there and pick it up. I hope you're happy! Score... don't have to buy it.

Don't worry, it'll be a fun read for any tennis nut, like yourself. :D

BTW, I also got mine from the library. We have a great library here that will buy any book that you ask them to. I've probably asked them to buy like 25 different (many tennis related) books over the past few years and they bought every one of them for me. :D
 

norcal

Legend
That story of him at the public courts was funny. I saw him at the SJ tour stop last year. He was scouting a match and was no more than 10 feet away from me but I didn't recognize him despite seeing him on tv several times. His hair was a lot longer and he didn't 'look' like a pro.

I figured out who it was when I looked at the draw (could tell by who he was scouting). Later on someone asked me if I was a coach lols.
 

norcal

Legend
You mean he is stupid like the vodka?

Nice ninja edit Cavallino. Absolutly nice edit.
 
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Eviscerator

Banned
The best story in the book had to do with Spadea losing to an unheralded player in a tournament in Los Angeles.

That sounds like a great story, and I give him credit for putting it in the book. You know many players egos would never allow them to be so candid with such a story.

Thanks for the review, I think I will give it a read.
 

Craig Sheppard

Hall of Fame
Well, I just finished Vince Spadea's book. I'll have to say, after reading the whole thing, I'm more a fan of Vince now than I ever was before. I love his schtick on the Tennis Channel, and that's all I had really seen of him other than matches. He seemed like a fun guy who is a little off his rocker... But in his book, I can say he really is a regular guy, he sounds exactly some of the people I've known, except he has amazing tennis talent. But the things he worries about, how his mind works, what his goals are, etc... It's all a pretty interesting read and very relatable to the average person/fan.

He really didn't attack many people, and he certainly was very complimentary about some. Patrick McEnroe certainly fell a few hundred notches in my opinion based on what Vince had to say. Not that he was one of my favorite personalities to begin with.

What I found most interesting was the day-to-day life on tour. It really is a roller coaster ride, from off-days to stadium court matches. The grind is unbelievable, and I even felt some of the stress when he explained his schedule and what his time commitments were... especially in the face of illness/injury. There certainly were times I think he had it so easy, off-days, breaks, etc... but then when you think about the work, the practice, the travel, etc... it's definitely not a walk in the park.

I'd recommend it for any tennis fan... I was impressed. I really thought he'd come off a lot more wacky and weird, but in reality it's very down-to-earth.

P.S. Rabbit, after reading your original review, I just wanted to say I enjoyed the womanizing/dating type stories. As a single guy about to turn 30, I could DEFINITELY relate to that part of the book. I thought Vince was hilarious... he's just like every other guy, well not every other guy, but guys I've known. He'd be one fun dude to hang with out on the town I think. I can understand why you'd skip over them, but I thought they were entertaining and made the book feel more personal.
 
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Craig Sheppard

Hall of Fame
So Craig... Do tell us about the Hewitt affaire please!:) . We don't have the book in South America!!.

I was expecting some real detail... but all the book said was that Hewitt had some indiscretions with another female tennis player, and his coach did too... so they didn't name names or anything. I was kinda expecting something juicier...
 

iscottius

Professional
Well, I just finished Vince Spadea's book. I'll have to say, after reading the whole thing, I'm more a fan of Vince now than I ever was before. .

Craig,

I am also a big Spadea fan after reading his book. He is just vince being vince having fun. If you haven't seen him play in person it is very entertaining. I watched him beat Jonas Bjorkman at the open this year, really cool match, vince is awesome off the ground. I also like the fact that he is not part of the tennis establishment, sponsorship etc.

It is a great family story, about a father that raised and coached a son and daughter to the top of the jr. tennis world.

I also lost respect for Pat Mcenroe not for his decision so much (not to play Spadea), but more in the way he handled it. If Vince is correct and he was soundly beating Mardy Fish and the match was on clay-- he put him on the team but never intended to play him and that was wrong. Sounds like PMac was trying to appease AROD by playing his hs roomate and buddy
 

Nuke

Hall of Fame
I read it this weekend because of this thread. I thought Spadea came off as a bit of a pathetic character, actually. Not a lot of joy in the life of a mid-level pro. He tries too hard to show he's a rapper and handy with the ladies, but more loneliness than anything, I think.
 
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iscottius

Professional
I read it this weekend because of this thread. I thought Spadea came off as a bit of a pathetic character, actually. Not a lot of joy in the life of a mid-level pro. He tries too hard to show he's a rapper and handy with the ladies, but more loneliness than anything, I think.
I look at it more about vinces passion for the game, he is choosing this life because he loves to compete, I will never find someone pursuing thier dreams pathetic. Also, he will retire with millions.

As for the ladies, this is part of the life. Vince seems to be a good guy, would probably like to have a relationship but life on tour does not allow it. Again choosing his passion for tennis over relationships at this point in his life.

and remeber "Spadea aint afraid of ya"
 

Craig Sheppard

Hall of Fame
I read it this weekend because of this thread. I thought Spadea came off as a bit of a pathetic character, actually. Not a lot of joy in the life of a mid-level pro. He tries too hard to show he's a rapper and handy with the ladies, but more loneliness than anything, I think.

You have to remember though that in the year he chronicled, 2005, he slipped form #19 in the world down into the 50s or 60s. It was a really tough year for him. That's what made the book more realistic to me. It showed that even a pro athlete, who seemingly has it made, is really fighting some personal self-doubt. He often wondered if he would make it, or if he'd have to pack it in. I also thought he was honest about wanting his fellow Americans to lose, even though he knew he should root for them to win. I think a lot of people feel like that.

I think the rapping & talking to the ladies are Vince's hobbies. I think that makes him a fun character... it'd be a pretty boring story if he just put in his journal about going bass fishing and sitting at home watching DVDs. He's a single guy with some fame and money. Every single guy is going to go out on the town scoping for chicks. Sure it sounds like he does it a lot, but that's how he has fun. I did feel a little bad for him when he recounted the story at the end about talking to Elke Clijsters. It sounded like he was just trying to be friendly to her, and Kim thought "oh it's Vince, he must be hitting on my little sister!" Shows how your reputation can precede you.

He's an aspiring star, trying to make the most of what he's got, and his rapping gets him noticed. Did you notice one of the themes of the book is how he struggles to make himself stand out? He doesn't just want to be Vince Spadea. He wants to be VINCE SPADEA. (Like "wow! I just met VINCE SPADEA!") I think most professional athletes and people on a world stage have this sort of drive--they want the spotlight. But Vince does it without sounding like an egomaniac, he does it sounding like a regular guy looking to make it big.
 
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Kobble

Hall of Fame
Vince Spadea never gets noticed. The guy at the local park didn't know who he was, I didn't recognize him with his new look, and said to myself, this guy hits the ball good. If Vince is reading this, I'll always remember you Vince, for what its worth.
 

heycal

Hall of Fame
Can you guys who've read the book elaborate on the James Blake animosity? He said Blake is not like his nice guy image? In what way? Details, anecdotes, please?
 

iscottius

Professional
Can you guys who've read the book elaborate on the James Blake animosity? He said Blake is not like his nice guy image? In what way? Details, anecdotes, please?

I think the beef with Vince and blake was that vince did not feel that blake was that good, Vince having beat him alot pre 2005, and blake getting alot of attention etc.
 

Rabbit

G.O.A.T.
Actually, I think Blake pulled a little gamesmanship on court and Spadea called him on it; while they were on court. Spadea went on to tell Blake that "you have this nice guy image, but it really is an act..." and Blake kinda blew him off. Blake also "stole" a girl Spadea had brought to a party. Spadea kinda blew this off as well, saying that it didn't matter to him, but I think it kinda did. The deal was she went to the party with Spadea, he went to the bathroom (or something inconsequential) and when he returned, she was headed out the door with Blake. The implication was the she and Blake had CK of each other since she had done another pro the year before.

Another really amusing story was about Michael Chang. Everybody knows about the underhanded serve. Well, Spadea points out another Chang tactic that I had seen and not understood because of TV. If y'all have seen Chang play, you'll remember this. Have you ever seen Chang about to start his service motion and see his gaze go from the court kind of up in the crowd? I have. I thought someone was moving or doing something distracting. According to Spadea, that's what Chang wanted. Spadea said he bit all the time and then Chang goes on to serve. You get a little relaxed and maybe look away yourself thinking Chang's going to stop his serve and then he starts it back up!

Sorry, but I still think the dating/girl/relationship/how to hypnotize a girl advice from Spadea is a waste of print. I mean, how hard could it be if you're a world class pro? Sheesh....

I too have taken more note of Spadea's career. I saw something on TTC about Spadea beating Nads. Nads didn't give Spadea much of a handshake. I wonder if the other pros think Spadea doesn't deserve his success.

I really enjoyed the book and Spadea's view on tennis is pretty much like a fan's. I also came away liking him more. He should publish another year's worth...without the girl stuff.
 
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jamumafa

Semi-Pro
Funny Vince story from my own experience.

He lost his dubs at Wimbledon this year on a outside court. As he came up the stairs, no-one asked for his autograph (presumably not knowing who he was) So, I leaned over and asked if he could sign. He seemed quite jokey and I said "Release a rap album soon , Vince" and he said "Yeah, it can't be worse than that F****** performance"

I like him.
 

sureshs

Bionic Poster
Another really amusing story was about Michael Chang. Everybody knows about the underhanded serve. Well, Spadea points out another Chang tactic that I had seen and not understood because of TV. If y'all have seen Chang play, you'll remember this. Have you ever seen Chang about to start his service motion and see his gaze go from the court kind of up in the crowd? I have. I thought someone was moving or doing something distracting. According to Spadea, that's what Chang wanted. Spadea said he bit all the time and then Chang goes on to serve. You get a little relaxed and maybe look away yourself thinking Chang's going to stop his serve and then he starts it back up!

Confirms my opinions of Michael Chang (if this is true).
 

goober

Legend
Another really amusing story was about Michael Chang. Everybody knows about the underhanded serve. Well, Spadea points out another Chang tactic that I had seen and not understood because of TV. If y'all have seen Chang play, you'll remember this. Have you ever seen Chang about to start his service motion and see his gaze go from the court kind of up in the crowd? I have. I thought someone was moving or doing something distracting. According to Spadea, that's what Chang wanted. Spadea said he bit all the time and then Chang goes on to serve. You get a little relaxed and maybe look away yourself thinking Chang's going to stop his serve and then he starts it back up!

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I could see somebody getting caught by this once, but seriously biting on this all the time is actually more of an indictment of Sapdea.
 
I think he is funny with his lame raps, he's just being himslef "Spadea the gladiateuh", he brings some personality to the atp. I mean most of the pro's are these really "role-model" types that are great people, but it gets kindof old.
 
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