Backspin1183
Talk Tennis Guru
Not with Rafa taking 2 Slams to 1 lead over him. And Carlos would still play many more tournaments than the older greats.
British No 1 Cameron Norrie bemoans 'strange' rule that sees Novak Djokovic benefit from Wimbledon title
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Not with Rafa taking 2 Slams to 1 lead over him. And Carlos would still play many more tournaments than the older greats.
Cashman
Hall of Fame
The ITF have no involvement in the WTA Finals, so the ITF Grand Slams have no special status in determining qualifiers. Pretty much all that matters is where you finish in the WTA rankings.
The rule for doubles is the same as singles. However at this point in time Purcell/Ebden's qualification is not guaranteed.
There is only one Grand Slam champion spot available - if there are two champion teams in the top 20 who miss the rankings cutoff, it goes to whichever team is ranked higher.
Kyrgios/Kokkinakis (AO champions) are currently ranked 7th and qualifying based on ranking - but there are a couple of teams still alive in Paris who could leapfrog them. If they drop below the rankings cutoff, they will take the GS Champion spot at Purcell/Ebden's expense.
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Sudacafan
Bionic Poster
Djokovic, by not agreeing to do what 99% of his colleagues did to be eligible, this year resigned to participate in 2 slams (AO, USO) + 4 M1000's (IW, Miami, Canada, Cincinnati) with a maximum total 8000 ranking points, of which he got 0.
These ranking points were disputed on the surface he's allegedly the best. And this works two ways: he would have accumulated points of the total mentioned above for himself, and he would have prevented his competitors of obtaining the ones they got by playing in his absence. I am obviously not saying he would have participated in all those tournaments, and won all of those points, but he could have got many of them, considering the average he gets from the AO and North American hard court seasons.
He may probably end winning the Slam race regardless, but in the case he does not, he only has himself to blame for it.
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Cashman
Hall of Fame
it has zero to do with the ATP
again - the ATP Finals are a joint event between ATP and ITF. Both organisations qualify players into it under different criteria.
Djokovic qualified under ITF criteria (i.e. winning an ITF-designated Grand Slam). The ATP can do nothing about this.
NoleFam
Bionic Poster
No, if it weren't for the ATP's idiotic choice to remove points from Wimbledon he would have been #3 for the most of that time afterwards and would be #5 now; and the only reason he would be #5 is because he loses 1600 points this week from 2021 Paris and ATP Finals. With that said, I have no idea what Norrie is complaining about. He wouldn't even make the top 8 cutoff with the Wimbledon points.
THUNDERVOLLEY
G.O.A.T.
...and why is Norrie so concerned with a rule, rather than say....doing his job and win majors?
Julius Caesar
Professional
Asterisk Wimbledon leads to an asterisked participation in the ATP Finals
tennis_pro
Bionic Poster
Can this journeyman retire already? His sole existence is pissing me off, I don't even care about Djokovic in this context, just hate this Norrie knob.
Djokodalerer31
Hall of Fame
No...the ATP officials did! All they had to do is to ignore repurcussions of not letting russian players play at the Wimbledon by stripping the event from the ranking points this year! If Djokovic gained the 2000 ranking points he fully deserved, then all this nonsense talk about the system, that is supposed to help him out would be absolete, because he would have 4700+ ranking points by now and would be world number 4 tennis player and already would have qualified like a month ago!...ATP is at fault, not the Wimbledon!...
Rafa4LifeEver
G.O.A.T.
No its notCam Norrie has suggested that Novak Djokovic is getting favourable treatment as the fallout from Wimbledon's loss of ranking points drags into winter.
Djokovic has been assured of qualifying for this month's eight-man ATP Finals in Turin, on the basis of his one Grand Slam title this year, gleaned at SW19 in July.
The existing rule granting that privilege has remained in place, but for every other player who did well at Wimbledon there was no benefit to their status. Points were stripped due to the ban on Russian players.
Norrie would have gained 720 points for making the semi-finals, and the lack of ranking recognition has helped scupper his chances of making the field in Turin.
Not only that, but the absence of points could also sink Great Britain's hopes of making the 18-nation United Cup, the £13million mixed team event planned for Australia in January.
Djokovic could qualify for the ATP Finals anyway if he won this week's Paris Masters, but otherwise he is relying on a regulation which - with an apparent inconsistency - is still recognising what he did at The Championships.
'Novak obviously qualified from Wimbledon so that seems a bit strange,' said Norrie, who made the second round in Paris on Monday with a 6-2, 6-4 win over Serbia's Miomir Kecmanovic.
'I don't know if that was the rule before or not, but its seems unfair, I guess for Nick Kyrgios as well.
'He lost in the final and he gets nothing. I knew that I hadn't had the points all along, but I was still in with pretty decent chance I thought.'
The Australian would also have been in contention for Turin, but had to forfeit the bumper 1,200 points he made at SW19.
Stuart Duguid, Kyrgios's agent, observed: 'First and foremost, Novak deserves to be in Turin. But it feels arbitrary that he is the only player to benefit from his performances at Wimbledon.
'Players' endorsement contracts are affected by their year-end ranking and whether or not they qualify for the Finals. Many, such as Nick, will be out of pocket, whereas Novak has been made whole.'
An ATP spokesman said: 'The removal of ranking points at this year's Wimbledon was done on the basis of fairness to all players, and no further rule changes linked to the competition's status were deemed necessary.
'As such, any player competing at Wimbledon or the other Grand Slams this year had the opportunity to qualify for Turin via the Grand Slam qualification rule.'
The lack of points at Wimbledon has had a widespread distorting effect on the men's and women's listings. That is now extending to qualification for the new mixed event taking place ahead of the Australian Open.
The complex entry system is largely determined by the year-end ranking of a nation's top player of either sex. With Norrie now down at 14, Britain are just outside the cut-off at present, although that could yet change.
'I'd love to play, I think it's a pretty cool event. I'm going to push as much as I can and hopefully try to help the team out to try to get in,' said Norrie. 'It will be interesting to see how they do the list.'
Britain's four top men are looking to end their seasons strongly in Paris and on Monday night Andy Murray was facing Frenchman Gilles Simon.
Cameron Norrie bemoans 'strange' rule benefitting Novak Djokovic
Novak Djokovic has been assured of qualifying for this month's eight-man ATP Finals in Turin, Italy, on the basis of his one Grand Slam title this year, gleaned at Wimbledon back in July.www.dailymail.co.uk
Freelander
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Novak need two more wins at Paris masters to qualify regardless of the Grand Slam winner rule!
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