Brooksby is another Medvedev

Swingmaster

Hall of Fame
It's like a new prototyope,
Tall, goofy, weird strokes, great movement, pusher retrieving skillz, they've given up even trying to be orthodox & get the maximum out of their awkward strokes, and have great court IQ & touch

How many of these beings is Medvedev going to spawn? Is this the future?

Are Brooksby's groundstrokes that funky? He's got the weird two handed slice and drop shot, but his regular top spin strokes? He's definitely an awkward looking person though.
 

sredna42

Hall of Fame
Are Brooksby's groundstrokes that funky? He's got the weird two handed slice and drop shot, but his regular top spin strokes? He's definitely an awkward looking person though.
He's got some weird straight arm 2hbh going on, and his FH looks creepy with the whole "hobbled" left arm thing he has, like its a stroke victim's arm.

My worry is that these things might multiply. There could hundreds, if not thousands, on the tour in just a year or two if my modelling is correct.
 

Swingmaster

Hall of Fame
He's got some weird straight arm 2hbh going on, and his FH looks creepy with the whole "hobbled" left arm thing he has, like its a stroke victim's arm.

My worry is that these things might multiply. There could hundreds, if not thousands, on the tour in just a year or two if my modelling is correct.
I still think these guys are anomalous, but maybe the instructional trend is shifting from "here's exactly what you have to do" to "let's see what comes naturally to you." If I were an instructor right now I would definitely market myself as a guy who encourages variation and creativity. Seems like the right play.
 

sredna42

Hall of Fame
I still think these guys are anomalous, but maybe the instructional trend is shifting from "here's exactly what you have to do" to "let's see what comes naturally to you." If I were an instructor right now I would definitely market myself as a guy who encourages variation and creativity. Seems like the right play.
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James P

G.O.A.T.
Decent comp, Medvedev without an elite serve. Three quarters Medvedev, perhaps. I highly doubt Medvedev "spawned" Brooksby, given that he was a virtual unknown quantity three years ago. I have a feeling Brooksby was already Brooksby then.
 

S&V-not_dead_yet

Talk Tennis Guru
I still think these guys are anomalous, but maybe the instructional trend is shifting from "here's exactly what you have to do" to "let's see what comes naturally to you." If I were an instructor right now I would definitely market myself as a guy who encourages variation and creativity. Seems like the right play.
The vast majority of your potential audience, however, are probably cemented in the "cookie cutter" approach: anything unconventional could be interpreted as "wrong". Just look at the comments on Meddy's strokes: I mostly hear an undertone that equates "funky" to "wrong".
 

sredna42

Hall of Fame
Decent comp, Medvedev without an elite serve. Three quarters Medvedev, perhaps. I highly doubt Medvedev "spawned" Brooksby, given that he was a virtual unknown quantity three years ago. I have a feeling Brooksby was already Brooksby then.
3/4vedev lol
 

EggSalad

Rookie
I really don’t see any similarities at all between Medvedev and Brooksby. Maybe that they both like to extend rallies but Medvedev does that almost exclusively and Brooksby does not. Brooksby comes in to the net a lot more than Med.
 

BeatlesFan

Bionic Poster
Medvedev has great touch?

You obviously have never seen one single match of his. Med has a glaring lack of touch. He’s the worst volleyer of an elite player in the last 40 years.
 

Swingmaster

Hall of Fame
I feel like people are calling every Brooksby match a measuring stick match. That being said, this Schwartzman match is a measuring stick match. I will resist cracking a joke.
 

Swingmaster

Hall of Fame
The vast majority of your potential audience, however, are probably cemented in the "cookie cutter" approach: anything unconventional could be interpreted as "wrong". Just look at the comments on Meddy's strokes: I mostly hear an undertone that equates "funky" to "wrong".
True, but you can keep emphasizing the absolute fundamentals and keep saying things like "if your footwork/unit turn and everything is right, then your style of takeback doesn't really matter." And if the kid wants to throw in a two handed slice...fine. Go for it. Two handed forehand? Well, maybe discourage that.
 

S&V-not_dead_yet

Talk Tennis Guru
True, but you can keep emphasizing the absolute fundamentals and keep saying things like "if your footwork/unit turn and everything is right, then your style of takeback doesn't really matter." And if the kid wants to throw in a two handed slice...fine. Go for it. Two handed forehand? Well, maybe discourage that.
Does Brooksby hit a 2HBH slice? I'm not sure. I've only seen Connors and Santoro pull it off. For me, it feels as uncomfortable as the 1HBH slice feels natural.
 

Slapper

Rookie
It's like a new prototyope,
Tall, goofy, weird strokes, great movement, pusher retrieving skillz, they've given up even trying to be orthodox & get the maximum out of their awkward strokes, and have great court IQ & touch

How many of these beings is Medvedev going to spawn? Is this the future?

Good comparison but you forgot one other glaring similarity: they both suck at net. I can't think of anyone who is as useless at net, apart from Djokovic a few years ago, but even Djokovic didn't try to hit double handed backhand smashes, as far as I can recall.
 
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