Build the worst player out of former n°1 'parts'

Flash O'Groove

Flash O'Groove

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We sometime try to build the best player by taking shots from x and movement from y. Let's try to build the worst player taking only players who reached n°1.

Forehand: Edberg/Rafter
Backhand: Courier/Roddick
Serve: Kafelnikov/Wilander
Volleys: Muster
Footwork: Becker
Mental: Rios
Overheads: Djokovic
Return: Roddick
Dropshots: Connors

What do you think?
 
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Funny and original thread..

I think you pretty much nailed it, but maybe Patrick Rafter can be thrown into the mix somewhere..?
 
J011yroger said:
Connors and Chang could be up there in serve.

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Chang never got higher than #2.

Rosewall arguably would have been number one at times in the early 70's (if we're not including pre-open era) so his serve would probably be the worst.
 
Flash O'Groove said:
Good idea, I will check if I can find stats about them.
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I would suggest Wilander as well ... his serve was consistent and well-placed like Connors but very attackable. I think Rios could use it as more of a weapon. Also, both Connors and Rios were lefty which often meant they could "get away" with a little less on serve.
 
J011yroger said:
Connors and Chang could be up there in serve.

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According to the ATP stats, Rios, Connors and Chang have roughly the same serving record, but Connors have only late careers stats so I excpect he was better in his prime/peak than both. Also Chang didn't reach n°1 so I keep Chang.

Likewise Ivanisevic never got to n°1. Worst returner might be Roddick?
 
Flash O'Groove said:
According to the ATP stats, Rios, Connors and Chang have roughly the same serving record, but Connors have only late careers stats so I excpect he was better in his prime/peak than both. Also Chang didn't reach n°1 so I keep Chang.

Likewise Ivanisevic never got to n°1. Worst returner might be Roddick?
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Sorry, I was thinking slam winners!

J
 
After checking the ATP website serve leaderboard, Kafelnikov has the worst serving stats of all former n°1, before Hewitt and Rios. Surprising! Wilander not included in the stats.
 
Serve: Nadal
Return: Safin
Consistency: Ferrero
Health: Murray
Volley: Djokovic
Backhand: Federer
Forehand: Hewitt
 
NatF said:
Nope I disagree with basically everything, I'm not a basic fanboy like you are:sneaky:
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Nice personal attack only because I disagree with your ideas. I could aslo call you "basic fanboy" for saying 2004-2005 Hewitt is the same as 2018 Nadal.
 
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Sport said:
Nice personal attack only because I disagree with your ideas. I could aslo call you "basic fanboy" for saying 2004-2005 Hewitt is the same as 2018 Nadal.
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You'd have missed my point if you said that. I was pointing out Lew's double standards.

Not surprised you missed that though.
 
NatF said:
You'd have missed my point if you said that. I was pointing out Lew's double standards.

Not surprised you missed that though.
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You also missed my point. My original post in this thread was an hyperbole to exagerate the Big 3 "weaknesses", rather than a literal comment. Many former #1 players have a worse backhand than Federer, serve than Nadal and volley than Djokovic.
 
Sport said:
You also missed my point. My original post in this thread was an hyperbole to exagerate the Big 3 "weaknesses", rather than a literal comment. Many former #1 player have a worse backhand than Federer, serve than Nadal and volley than Djokovic.
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You were wrong about the return, forehand and consistency as well - unless you count being injured as a lack of consistency.
 
NatF said:
You were wrong about the return, forehand and consistency as well - unless you count being injured as a lack of consistency.
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It was a trolling message as a whole. None of it is correct. Ferrero lacked consistency, but other former #1 players were even more irregular. The return and forehand part were just trolling.
 
Sport said:
It was a trolling message as a whole. None of it is correct. Ferrero lacked consistency, but other former #1 players were even more irregular. The return and forehand part were just trolling.
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Ferrero was becoming quite consistent before injuries wrecked him. But anyway, I apologise - I jumped the gun.
 
Sport said:
It was a trolling message as a whole. None of it is correct. Ferrero lacked consistency, but other former #1 players were even more irregular. The return and forehand part were just trolling.
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I can add consistency but it's quite hard to identify the one. You have to be consistent to reach n1.

Probably Rios? Ferrero had normal consistency for his time and rank in the all time great scale.
 
BHServe said:
I was about to post exact same, but then I thought this is more about service game as a whole and Murray has very decent 1st serve.
Good pick anyway!
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Can't imagine a player in modern history with so radically much poorer 2nd serve. Of course his first serve is absolutely top notch :)
 
Shaolin said:
Go watch a Rios match sometime. You obviously haven't actually seen him play.
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You can keep repeating the same line about no one having seen him play but I saw him play quite a few times in person (and I suspect before you were born, dude), https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/ind...ero-one-two-slam-winners.616247/post-12253637

Most of them made no impression. This match was memorable:

https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/really-how-great-was-mcenroe.517411/post-8865009
 
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