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I would expect arguably the greatest player ever to lace up a pair of Nikes to be better at calling lines. But it goes to show no one is perfect.Out of #1 players Hewitt, Roddick and RAFA are worse and RAFA is the worst.
I would expect arguably the greatest player ever to lace up a pair of Nikes to be better at calling lines. But it goes to show no one is perfect.Out of #1 players Hewitt, Roddick and RAFA are worse and RAFA is the worst.
You can keep repeating the same line about no one having seen him play but I saw him play quite a few times in person (and I suspect before you were born, dude), https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/ind...ero-one-two-slam-winners.616247/post-12253637
Most of them made no impression. This match was memorable:
https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/really-how-great-was-mcenroe.517411/post-8865009
Ok well you have your opinion and I have mine...
(Though it may be less informed.)
Agreed. Ferrero was a very, very tough out before the illness cut his peak short; he was one of the few guys back then who was a legitimate threat on both slow clay courts and medium/fast hard courts. He even managed to make two QF's at Wimby well after his best days were in the rearview mirror despite not being a grass courter of note.Ferrero was becoming quite consistent before injuries wrecked him. But anyway, I apologise - I jumped the gun.
What about best one?
Forehand: Lendl
Backhand: Safin
Serve: Roddick
Volleys: Edberg
Footwork: Hewitt
Mental strength: Wilander
Overheads: Roddick
Return: Connors
Dropshots: Rios
Lob: Hewitt
Well, obviously I didn't include Big 3 here.My picks
Forehand: Fed
Backhand: Safin or Agassi
Serve: Sampras or Fed
Volleys: Edberg
Footwork: Fed or Rios
Mental strength: Hewitt or Nadal
Overheads: Sampras, Fed
Return: Novak
Dropshots: Rios
Lob: Hewitt
Serve: Nadal
Return: Safin
Consistency: Ferrero
Health: Murray
Volley: Djokovic
Backhand: Federer
Forehand: Hewitt
Connors on 1st serve, he just didn't have one. Hence 80+% 1st serve in some matches.Connors and Chang could be up there in serve.
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wow. is that for real? no one above 50 percent! i'd love to see some data on how accurate the best linesmen are.Out of #1 players Hewitt, Roddick and RAFA are worse and RAFA is the worst.
Compare Borg and Connors on serve. About the same? Mediocre.
We sometime try to build the best player by taking shots from x and movement from y. Let's try to build the worst player taking only players who reached n°1.
Forehand: Edberg
Backhand: Courier
Serve: Kafelnikov/Wilander
Volleys: Muster
Footwork: Safin
Mental: Rios
Overheads: Djokovic
Return: Roddick
Dropshots: ?
What do you think?
What about coach
Serve: Nadal
Return: Safin
Consistency: Ferrero
Health: Murray
Volley: Djokovic
Backhand: Federer
Forehand: Hewitt
Backhand: Courier
No way. Roddick for sure. The shortcoming of Courier's backhand is often exaggerated.Courier did had pretty bad backhand. Worst than Roddick for sure.
I can. And I am. He is so artificial and fake and it is so obvious. Talk to any professional psychoanalyst and see what happens.
Blah blah blahA professional psychoanalyst is like a jumbo shrimp or a captivating accountant; an inherent contradiction.
Most top performers in every sports/entertainment have to be fake to a degree; you can't always say what you think. Just follow the news and see what happens nowadays to people who freely speak their mind.
I'd rather watch a fake gentleman than a genuine, chip-on-narrow-shoulder lunatic like the two I quoted in my original poast.
Inreresting thread! A few possible alternatives.
Forehand; Rafter. Rafter was a worse version of Edberg.
Backhand; Roddick. Couriers was a bit more solid.
Volleys; Courier. Courier had no net game. Maybe as bad as muster here
Footwork; Becker. Becker was the slowest out of any number one, this one is quite clear cut.
Drop shots; Connors. I've never seen Connors attempt a drop shot in any clip
Not even close: Agassi.Volleys; Courier. Courier had no net game. Maybe as bad as muster here
Come say it to my face, you piece of crаp. Reported and ignored.
Did you even realize I was quoting McEnroe and Connors in my OP? Idiоt.
@Flash O'Groove Great thread!
But I'm shocked to see so many ranking Courier's BH so low. It was a perfectly good shot. Not as great as his FH, but it wasn't prone to errors and he could direct the BH anywhere on the court with disguise. A better BH than Roddick.
IMO it's ok to have a backhand that just keeps the ball in the court when you are murderifying forehands.On the flip side Roddick's backhand wasn't that bad. He wasn't afraid to go DTL with it, passed decently and didn't really give away too many errors. In his later career after working with Connors it was definitely better than Courier's IMO. Arod's biggest problem with the backhand was the return where he could drop it a little short.
A worst list I have not seenServe: Nadal
Return: Safin
Consistency: Ferrero
Health: Murray
Volley: Djokovic
Backhand: Federer
Forehand: Hewitt