Building the Perfect Player by Andy Murray

Serve: Sampras
Serve return: Agassi, Novak
Forehand: Lendl, Rafa
Backhand: Novak, Henman
Volley: Edberg, Rafter, Laver
Footwork: Novak, Rafa, Roger
Mental strength: Rafa, Roger

Interesting that Roger gets mentioned only for the footwork and mental strength, with Rafa being "very very strong" mentally.

Quite a frank view from a top-3 player avoiding hero-worship.
 
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I guess we have to discount the Lendl and Henman mentions for obvious reasons.

But even then the second man left is Novak or Rafa.
 
sureshs said:
Serve: Sampras
Serve return: Agassi, Novak
Forehand: Lendl, Rafa
Backhand: Novak, Henman
Volley: Edberg, Rafter, Laver
Footwork: Novak, Rafa, Roger
Mental strength: Rafa, Roger

Interesting that Roger gets mentioned only for the footwork.

Quite a frank view from a top-3 player avoiding hero-worship.
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This is incorrect. Roger also gets mentioned for mental strength.

So I wonder if this means Andy won't avoid Roger's BH in the semi since he thinks Lendl's was better, LOL
 
Cesc Fabregas said:
Andy Murray has played both of them multiple times so of course you know better.
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Murray doesn't know, because he doesn't dare playing to Federer's forehand. Plus, Murray is a pusher. He rather have a shot that never produces an error, than a shot you can hit somebody completely off the court with.
 
no mention of mac for the volleys ? hmm, the lendl effect ? ;)

maybe he needs another taste of the federer FH as well ? coming up at this year's USO semi ? :)
 
the list is not surprising, and rather accurate -- Fed's FH has dropped off in venom over the past few years.

Having said that, I hope Federer feels slighted by this list from Murray and gives a FH masterclass against him in the SFs :)
 
Rafa actually has fallen more recently in the mental strength department. Example is Wimbledon against Rosol.
 
Andy Murray is a close friend of Rafa lol plus he probably hates Roger for denying him 3 times xD JMAC said federers forehand was arguably the greatest shot in the history of the sport. Now I'm gonna go with the. 7 time GS winners opinion instead of a no slam wonder Murray but that's just me :)
 
fed_rulz said:
the list is not surprising, and rather accurate -- Fed's FH has dropped off in venom over the past few years.

Having said that, I hope Federer feels slighted by this list from Murray and gives a FH masterclass against him in the SFs :)
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imagine if federer goes all USO 2004 final on him ...... murray won't know what has hit him ..... :)
 
abmk said:
imagine if federer goes all USO 2004 final on him ...... murray won't know what has hit him ..... :)
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that would require an opponent who is a former champion who lost a noticeable amount of his greatest asset (foot speed) who never had that much power in the first place...

Murray is as fast as ever (at least matching Hewitts peak speed) and has measurably more power (if he chooses to use it)...

both suffer from relatively slow racquet speed.
 
Rogers forehand is a great classic forehand no doubt probably the best (classic style).

But Rafa's is unique in the height it clears the net...the amount of spin + the lefty break and the lasso finish.

no on else on tour hit's that forehand or anything like it.

and when it's on..it is lethal you can decide if Rafa will win or lose a match once you see 3 or for of them start clicking.

also keep in mind....this is the forehand that breaks down the GOATS back hand and has won 11 majors
 
sureshs said:
Rafa's forehand is superior
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Especially in the Roland Garros 2012 final. Lots of really powerful forehands from Nadal there, it was the key to Nadal winning that match and becoming the only king of a slam, winning a record 7th French Open title and winning 52 of 53 French Open matches in which only one was a five-setter. That's what Nadal's forehand did.
 
DRII said:
Intresting...

Forehand he did not mention Federer.
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Well look at Murray and the type of game he plays.

Of course he would pick Nadals forehand as it not quite as aggressive as Federers and more for rallying/grinding; it fits in perfectly with how Andy plays.
 
I love how all the 3.5's are telling Murray who to pick in his "perfect player". Murray has played Fed plenty of times, I think he knows his game a little better than the TT board.
 
It is interesting that in the article Murray does not pick Federer's forehand but instead chooses Ivan Lendl. He also mentions the great volley technique of past players like Laver.
 
Murray leads the H2H with Federer after playing 17 matches in total. Not surprising Federer isn't part of his list, and that Nadal plays a more important role in his list (since Nadal leads Murray in the H2H significantly).
 
Some astute observations by Murray, imo. Its good, that someone of the modern guys looks for older players and their technique. Maybe Lendl told him one thing or another. In the volley department, people like Roche or Emerson have been and still would be great coaches. Roche taught Lendl and Federer some things about volley, and Emerson gave Navratilova, when she played with him at WTT, valuable advice on the volley. I think, that Dennis Ralston improved Chris Everts volley quite a bit and made it more solid.
 
pc1 said:
It is interesting that in the article Murray does not pick Federer's forehand but instead chooses Ivan Lendl. He also mentions the great volley technique of past players like Laver.
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Lendl is his current coach so no surprise he has to pick Lendl's forehand.
 
abmk said:
imagine if federer goes all USO 2004 final on him ...... murray won't know what has hit him ..... :)
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Imagine if Federer goes all Cincinnati 2006 on teenage bambi Murray ...... Murray won't know what has hit him ...... uhhh wait

You know this is childish. So don't get involved.
Don't dis a guy for giving an honest opinion especially one more infinitely qualified than you or I will ever be to make it.
 
6-1 6-3 6-0 said:
Murray leads the H2H with Federer after playing 17 matches in total. Not surprising Federer isn't part of his list, and that Nadal plays a more important role in his list (since Nadal leads Murray in the H2H significantly).
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You are quite boring now, your time has passed, i believe its time for another Troll poster to come along.
 
Fedex said:
Imagine if Federer goes all Cincinnati 2006 on teenage bambi Murray ...... Murray won't know what has hit him ...... uhhh wait

You know this is childish. So don't get involved.
Don't dis a guy for giving an honest opinion especially one more infinitely qualified than you or I will ever be to make it.
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reading comprehension FAIL.

he wasn't dissing Murray. he was responding to my comment where I hoped that Federer would take offence to Murray's FH preferences, and give him a FH lesson.
 
Not surprising list from Murray. Lendl is his coach, Nadal is one of his closest friends, Henman looked after him and Agassi was his idol as a child. Murray and Federer do not get along and that is probably why he left Federer off any stroke list. Murray seems to think Federer cares about things like this.
 
TMF said:
Lendl is his current coach so no surprise he has to pick Lendl's forehand.
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He doesn't have to pick Lendl's forehand.

urban said:
Some astute observations by Murray, imo. Its good, that someone of the modern guys looks for older players and their technique. Maybe Lendl told him one thing or another. In the volley department, people like Roche or Emerson have been and still would be great coaches. Roche taught Lendl and Federer some things about volley, and Emerson gave Navratilova, when she played with him at WTT, valuable advice on the volley. I think, that Dennis Ralston improved Chris Everts volley quite a bit and made it more solid.
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I was impressed by Murray's knowledge of the past players.
 
pc1 said:
It is interesting that in the article Murray does not pick Federer's forehand but instead chooses Ivan Lendl. He also mentions the great volley technique of past players like Laver.
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Indeed, as a consequence he got two threads about his opinion on this issue.
 
roberttennis54 said:
Not surprising list from Murray. Lendl is his coach, Nadal is one of his closest friends, Henman looked after him and Agassi was his idol as a child. Murray and Federer do not get along and that is probably why he left Federer off any stroke list. Murray seems to think Federer cares about things like this.
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Why do you think Murray had Fed in mind when he said this? Are you implying that Murray deliberately left out Federer's name in the important categories just to spite him?
 
roberttennis54 said:
Not surprising list from Murray. Lendl is his coach, Nadal is one of his closest friends, Henman looked after him and Agassi was his idol as a child. Murray and Federer do not get along and that is probably why he left Federer off any stroke list. Murray seems to think Federer cares about things like this.
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sureshs said:
Why do you think Murray had Fed in mind when he said this? Are you implying that Murray deliberately left out Federer's name in the important categories just to spite him?
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So is Murray playing mind games now ?
 
pc1 said:
He doesn't have to pick Lendl's forehand.
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I didn't mean to say he had to, but it's normal for a person to be bias toward someone he's close to.

BTW, there's no need to make 2 identical threads. Hope this won't be a habit.
 
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