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Raul_SJ

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America is at war with Iran and running a global blockade against the country, so if you want to return Iran to peace you need get Trump to apologise for his murder of Suleimani and change course.

Otherwise the blood of the Iranian people is on his hands.
Trump did not shoot down the plane and then shamelessly deny it was shot down. And continue to lie and cover it up for days.
That is all on your friendly regime.
America supports the protesters who are now demanding answers from the regime for their despicable actions.
They are demanding answers from their own regime regarding the shootdown; not from Trump. We suggest that you do the same.
 

Raul_SJ

G.O.A.T.
Trump murdered an Iranian general and then shamelessly denied it was ever necessary because there were no imminent attacks.
The official explanation is that the General was planning attacks on American troops and dipomats.
I'd like to see the evidence myself but apparently it would entail release of classified information.
Catch-22.
 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
And the latest is that Pompeo says he doesn't even care if Suleimani was or wasn't planning imminent attacks.

It's killing for the sake of killing and causing chaos.

The official explanation is that the General was planning attacks on American troops and dipomats.
I'd like to see the evidence myself but apparently it would entail release of classified information.
Catch-22.
 
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Trump murdered an Iranian general and then shamelessly denied it was ever necessary because there were no imminent attacks.
He was killed in Iraq a couple days after an attack on us base. He wasnt supposed to be in the country.
 

Raul_SJ

G.O.A.T.
And the latest is Pompeo says he doesn't even care if Suleimani were planning imminent attacks.
In general, what is the protocol if there was evidence of imminent attacks by General. Could that evidence be revealed? Or is it classified?
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Trump is indeed deranged, but once you destroy the working and middle class in a country only a billionaire idiot is left, apparently.
He is much smarter than all the Dems combined. Took on and unseated the old guard in both parties, media elites, leftists in academia, Hollywood/celebrities. I’m not sure any other candidate could have pulled that off especially with all the illegal surveillance before and after he won. He scares them and has pushed them into taking absolutely preposterous positions now. Expect him to be re-elected handily. Completely out dozing all of the above.
 
Trump is indeed deranged, but once you destroy the working and middle class in a country only a billionaire idiot ranting racist slogans and beginning endless wars is left, apparently.
The globalists destroyed the middle class in many ways, especially as to manufacturing and their pursuit of open borders. Under Trump wages are rising for the less well off and middle class. We do need to tackle the debt and get to infrastructure during his second term. The economy is humming. Dow over 29k today and the economy is being revamped. Trade war with China has been very effective over time. The Dems have lost their way, and they’ve had plenty of help from corrupt republicans for a long time as well (see illegal immigration and endless wars).
 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
The myth of the all-knowing and all-powerful leader who destroys the old guard and brings in the glorious new thousand year empire of greatness!

He is much smarter than all the Dems combined. Took on and unseated the old guard in both parties, media elites, leftists in academia, Hollywood/celebrities. I’m not sure any other candidate could have pulled that off especially with all the illegal surveillance before and after he won. He scares them and has pushed them into taking absolutely preposterous positions now. Expect him to be re-elected handily. Completely out dozing all of the above.
 
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Bartelby

Bionic Poster
Trump boosted the debt and did nothing about infrastructure. Ranting about Mexicans and China is all we are left with. And the stock market is not the real economy.

Due to the fact that America produces little worth buying, Trump is trying to blackmail China into buying more but that means he is stealing trade from America's allies!

The globalists destroyed the middle class in many ways, especially as to manufacturing and their pursuit of open borders. Under Trump wages are rising for the less well off and middle class. We do need to tackle the debt and get to infrastructure during his second term. The economy is humming. Dow over 29k today and the economy is being revamped. Trade war with China has been very effective over time. The Dems have lost their way, and they’ve had plenty of help from corrupt republicans for a long time as well (see illegal immigration and endless wars).
 
Trump boosted the debt and did nothing about infrastructure. Ranting about Mexicans and China is all we are left with. And the stock market is not the real economy.

Due to the fact that America produces little worth buying, Trump is trying to blackmail China into buying more but that means he is stealing trade from America's allies!
Get to an agenda. Look for ways to have both parties work for the good of the country. I'm hopeful that in future years, there is healthcare reform, lower middle class taxation esp. (low taxes), a robust economy, reduced debt/spending, etc. I studied finance, yes I know that. Now who is your pick?
 
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once you destroy the working and middle class
Any idea when thats going to happen, recent history shows you arent correct. Pretty sure our economy has been going up since 2016.

Its been 3yrs and it hasnt happened, when do you abandon an idea?
 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
It's been marking time when, in the past, economies usually bound out of recessions or downturns.

The lost decade of growth in the West created the disaffected who rushed to the nearest Fuehrer figure.

Any idea when thats going to happen, recent history shows you arent correct. Pretty sure our economy has been going up since 2016.

Its been 3yrs and it hasnt happened, when do you abandon an idea?
 

Mike Bulgakov

G.O.A.T.
He is much smarter than all the Dems combined. Took on and unseated the old guard in both parties, media elites, leftists in academia, Hollywood/celebrities. I’m not sure any other candidate could have pulled that off especially with all the illegal surveillance before and after he won. He scares them and has pushed them into taking absolutely preposterous positions now. Expect him to be re-elected handily. Completely out dozing all of the above.
So you are against journalists, scientists, intellectuals, artists, entertainers, and the engines of democracy. What are you for? Please be specific.
 

Mike Bulgakov

G.O.A.T.
ook on and unseated the old guard in both parties, media elites, leftists in academia, Hollywood/celebrities. I’m not sure any other candidate could have pulled that off especially with all the illegal surveillance before and after he won. He scares them and has pushed them into taking absolutely preposterous positions now. Expect him to be re-elected handily. Completely out dozing all of the above.
You don't like any "Hollywood" films? Would you have been complaining that Shakespeare doesn't reflect English values if you lived in Elizabethan times? All the violence and weird behavior would have been too upsetting? Stories need drama. Look at the Greek and Roman myths, and all the stories in the Bible. Stories have always explored human behavior in a way that might make some people uncomfortable.
 

Mike Bulgakov

G.O.A.T.
He is much smarter than all the Dems combined. Took on and unseated the old guard in both parties, media elites, leftists in academia, Hollywood/celebrities. I’m not sure any other candidate could have pulled that off especially with all the illegal surveillance before and after he won. He scares them and has pushed them into taking absolutely preposterous positions now. Expect him to be re-elected handily. Completely out dozing all of the above.
Elite is a term that totalitarian leaders like Stalin, Mao, and the fascist leaders in 1930s Europe used to refer to the free thinkers who challenged them. They also went after the journalists, artists, writers, and any power structure that posed a challenge to their own will and power. Incidentally, Trump proclaims himself to be one of the wealthiest men in the country, and has surrounded himself with the economic elite and celebrities for his entire adult life. He's not elite?
 
Elite is a term that totalitarian leaders like Stalin, Mao, and the fascist leaders in 1930s Europe used to refer to the free thinkers who challenged them. They also went after the journalists, artists, writers, and any power structure that posed a challenge to their own will and power. Incidentally, Trump proclaims himself to be one of the wealthiest men in the country, and has surrounded himself with the economic elite and celebrities for his entire adult life. He's not elite?
Trump is far from perfect and I will discuss his flaws too. Humans aren’t perfect. Only God can be perfect in my opinion. He used to be a Dem and was a DC insider for a long time. I consider the Obamas and Clinton’s to be much more plugged into that circuit. Trumo was rich before he ever ran. The Obamas and Clinton’s became millionaires/billionaires soon via their DC ties. The Clintons via Clinton Foundation and pay to play (speeches). President Trump is certainly wealthy but he did make his money in the private sector. The corruption of the Obamas and Clintons is being exposed. They certainly helped each other despite being mortal enemies during the win by President Obama Vs. HRC. Lenin and the bolsheviks assumed power in the former Soviet Union and then brutalized many. There was the Bolshevik revolution and the “technocrats” power wielding and brutalizing those that opposed them. In my opinion that’s akin to the alliance of Silicon Valley and the DC power class (Dems and Republicans too).
 
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You don't like any "Hollywood" films? Would you have been complaining that Shakespeare doesn't reflect English values if you lived in Elizabethan times? All the violence and weird behavior would have been too upsetting? Stories need drama. Look at the Greek and Roman myths, and all the stories in the Bible. Stories have always explored human behavior in a way that might make some people uncomfortable.
I do enjoy many films. Yet Hollywood has some major issues and I certain ably don’t listen to those folks for their political opinions. That’s why folks tune them out when they try and interject their anti POTUS views at every turn. I love movies, dramas, the arts. Yet, they have been used to push political agendas as well.
 
if you want a radical candidate you go Sanders. If you want a winner you go Bloomberg. If you want to lose choose one of the rest.
See his breaking on the Sanders campaign:


This is the Antifa way. Recall that in San Jose folks attending a Trump rally were systematically attacked and it was coordinated? Did you see this on the four corrupt families of CA?

 
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Bartelby

Bionic Poster
Project Veritas seems to specialise in unethical reporting with an extreme right-wing bias.

Presidential campaigns are run by big organisations so you can easily find dirt on their minor operatives especially if you are basically running a sting operation.

This is the Antifa way. Recall that in San Jose folks attending a Trump rally were systematically attacked and it was coordinated?
 
Project Veritas seems to specialise in unethical reporting with an extreme right-wing bias.

Presidential campaigns are run by big organisations so you can easily find dirt on their minor operatives especially if you are basically running a sting operation.
I think they are very adept in exposing much that needs to be exposed. Did you see how the attacks on San Jose rally goers was coordinated. Let’s see if that guy is fired ASAP because he has no business in that role promoting violence. See the history of the four families of CA? Getty, Brown, Newsom and Pelosi families. Jaw dropping corruption for decades.


https://clarionproject.org/antifa-violence-talk-cancelled-due-to-threat-of-antifa-violence/
 
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Bartelby

Bionic Poster
You do realise that running around trying to dig up dirt with which to smear a leader is what is known as 'gutter politics'?

I think they are very adept in exposing much that needs to be exposed. Did you see how the attacks on San Jose rally goers was coordinated. Let’s see if that guy is fired ASAP because he has no business in that role promoting violence. See the history of the four families of CA? Getty, Brown, Newsom and Pelosi families. Jaw dropping corruption for decades.

https://clarionproject.org/antifa-violence-talk-cancelled-due-to-threat-of-antifa-violence/
 
You do realise that running around trying to dig up dirt with which to smear a leader is what is known as 'gutter politics'?
Look up the corruption of the media and it’s cozy relationship with the Obamas and Clintons. They’ve become Pravda like. Echo chambers. That’s why so many can’t even decipher what is actually happening and are shocked at Trump‘s resiliency. The media pulls the strings which is why they wanted to set up Jeb Bush vs. Hillary. I don’t think they’ll allow Sanders or Warren to win the Dem nomination yet they may not have a choice if it gets too difficult for them to prop up Biden. Biden , as HRC was last time is their pick and they’re going to do much to sabotage Sanders and Warren. The election interference by the DNC in the last election has been completely ignored by media as you may realize. I couldn’t believe Sanders never pushed the issue after his candidacy was derailed by the Clinton folks, with their friends in media/DNC.

https://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/politics/465241-we-need-answers-to-questions-mainstream-media-wont-ask-about

recall how the media was touting this guy as a possible presidential candidate?

 
https://www-washingtonexaminer-com.cdn.ampproject.org/c/s/www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/bernie-sanders-aides-lock-twitter-accounts-after-project-veritas-expose?_amp=true

by Spencer Neale
| January 14, 2020 05:43 PM

Two Iowa field directors for Bernie Sanders's 2020 presidential campaign locked their Twitter accounts after a Project Veritas video showed a "top-tier organizer" saying "Milwaukee will burn" if the senator doesn't win the Democratic nomination.

Sanders organizer Kyle Jurek told undercover journalists that "there is a reason why Stalin had gulags," that Sanders wanted "free education" so that Trump supporters could be taught how to "not be a f---ing ****," and that he wants to "walk into that MSNBC studios, drag those motherf---ers out by their hair, and light them on fire in the streets."
 

sureshs

Bionic Poster
Look up the corruption of the media and it’s cozy relationship with the Obamas and Clintons. They’ve become Pravda like. Echo chambers. That’s why so many can’t even decipher what is actually happening and are shocked at Trump‘s resiliency. The media pulls the strings which is why they wanted to set up Jeb Bush vs. Hillary. I don’t think they’ll allow Sanders or Warren to win the Dem nomination yet they may not have a choice if it gets too difficult for them to prop up Biden. Biden , as HRC was last time is their pick and they’re going to do much to sabotage Sanders and Warren. The election interference by the DNC in the last election has been completely ignored by media as you may realize. I couldn’t believe Sanders never pushed the issue after his candidacy was derailed by the Clinton folks, with their friends in media/DNC.

https://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/politics/465241-we-need-answers-to-questions-mainstream-media-wont-ask-about

recall how the media was touting this guy as a possible presidential candidate?

I don't know who you are trying to impress, but constantly trying to create a false equivalence between decent people in politics and media like the Clintons and Obamas and the right-wing fascists running the minority government now is wearing thin at this point. I understand that you live in Texas and half the people around you are the racist and misogynist type, but you need not identify with them or pander to them. Be sure that they will pounce on you at the slightest opportunity and then you will understand the consequences of trying to be popular by creating false equivalences or saying that everyone is the same.

It is a problem with minorities who have grown up in sh*thole places in the US at a time when things were much worse. There is another one in this forum from New Hampshire who is a constant apologizer for such things.

It always takes a lot of courage for truth and decency to win out at the end. There is nothing resilient about Trump except the depravity of his racist, misogynist and fake-Christian followers. It is their hate which is resilient, nothing else. They are despicable people, and there is no point trying to "understand" them. Otherwise, they would still be practicing slavery.
 
I don't know who you are trying to impress, but constantly trying to create a false equivalence between decent people in politics and media like the Clintons and Obamas and the right-wing fascists running the minority government now is wearing thin at this point. I understand that you live in Texas and half the people around you are the racist and misogynist type, but you need not identify with them or pander to them. Be sure that they will pounce on you at the slightest opportunity and then you will understand the consequences of trying to be popular by creating false equivalences or saying that everyone is the same.

It is a problem with minorities who have grown up in sh*thole places in the US at a time when things were much worse. There is another one in this forum from New Hampshire who is a constant apologizer for such things.

It always takes a lot of courage for truth and decency to win out at the end. There is nothing resilient about Trump except the depravity of his racist, misogynist and fake-Christian followers. It is their hate which is resilient, nothing else. They are despicable people, and there is no point trying to "understand" them. Otherwise, they would still be practicing slavery.
Suresh I’ve lived the American dream and you and I completely disagree on this issue. I voted Dem all my life until recent years. Put down the MSNBC and CNN talking points their ratings have tanked for a reason. Texas is filled with patriots and very accommodating people which is why folks are fleeing places like. NY and CA to move here. Obamas and a Clinton’s with their scandals have been thoroughly exposed.


 

ByeByePoly

G.O.A.T.
Get to an agenda. Look for ways to have both parties work for the good of the country. I'm hopeful that in future years, there is healthcare reform, lower middle class taxation esp. (low taxes), a robust economy, reduced debt/spending, etc. I studied finance, yes I know that. Now who is your pick?
Trump gave the $ (middle and lower class tax cuts, infrastructure, healthcare, etc) to the wealthy that did not need it in a growing economy since Obama (***), and to the military complex. It was a modern day train robbery ... instead of horses and guns ... lobbyist parading in and out of Moscow Mitch's senate office.

Here is the question I have ... how do you get that money back? It's already been given away.

*** The myth of the "Trump" economy ... just takes 5 minutes of Google search:




Anyone can do ther own search ... post any information that makes the case that the economy hasn't simply been a continuation from Obama through Trump ... with the added $1 trillion debt of course. Trump gave away the $ that might be needed as stimulus in the inevitable downturn ... and the genius did it in a growing economy.

The sooner everyone realizes Trump is simply the "Obama opposite reality show" ... the sooner they will realize he has no idea what he is doing. No policy, no analysis ... just a daily **** show.

I'm with @sureshs ... 3+ years into Trump the fact that this percentage of our citizens still support him is the stuff of alternate reality ... can't possibly be true. I am more forgiving to misguided citizens, but those in his administration will carry that mistake for the rest of their life.

So sad ... this is our 2020.
 
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Due to the fact that America produces little worth buying,
. .You're buying 'very much American', . you're just too self-absorbed to see it.


You are already said you are hoping for a Trump victory, so that you can see America collapse.
Make up your mind.
I don't have to make up my mind. I would enjoy either scenario.
. .Ask yourself this: .when America collapses what then will you do with your life?
 
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I don't know who you are trying to impress, but constantly trying to create a false equivalence between decent people in politics and media like the Clintons and Obamas and the right-wing fascists running the minority government now is wearing thin at this point. I understand that you live in Texas and half the people around you are the racist and misogynist type, but you need not identify with them or pander to them. Be sure that they will pounce on you at the slightest opportunity and then you will understand the consequences of trying to be popular by creating false equivalences or saying that everyone is the same.

It is a problem with minorities who have grown up in sh*thole places in the US at a time when things were much worse. There is another one in this forum from New Hampshire who is a constant apologizer for such things.

It always takes a lot of courage for truth and decency to win out at the end. There is nothing resilient about Trump except the depravity of his racist, misogynist and fake-Christian followers. It is their hate which is resilient, nothing else. They are despicable people, and there is no point trying to "understand" them. Otherwise, they would still be practicing slavery.
Id tell you and bye bye poly to stick with tennis, but ive also read those posts :(
 
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