Calling all Prestige mid users!...

Ross K

Legend
To Users of the YT or MG Prestige mid or other derivitives of the legendary PC600... Q... Am I crazy?...:roll:


. I usually prefer a larger head-size (95 " would be my fave)...

. Every time I've tried mid frames I've ended up missing the extra oomph and forgivness of MPs...

. My 2hbh always seems better suited to MPs (and isn't quite up to par with the MG Pres m)...

. I typically end up preferring open string patterns and can't get on with closed patterns so well...

. My game is predominantly baseliner... with a little all court stuff mixed in...

. I'm no advanced level player...


And yet despite all these compelling arguments for steering well clear of the Prestige mid (MG), I've found, from the very 1st hit, I reaaaally do like this frame... :confused:


. The balance is weighting is just about PERFECT for me...

. I LOVE the full caps solid feel...

. I LOVE the way the rack swings and lines up behind the ball... it's 1 of those frames that has that going through the gears sensation... you can just tee it up beautifully!...

. I LOVE how it appears that if I technically do everything correctly and really unload I produce a booming groundie that goes precisely where I intend it to go...

. The general feel is superb...

. Touch specifically is superb...

. The general control aspect is exemplary...

. The maneuverability/heft ratio is just about spot on for me...

. Placement and targeting on serve are outstanding...

. Quick rackethead speed is easy to produce...

. Specific stringbed feel yields a highly pleasing, rich combination of solid firmness, along with a bit of softness, as well as some definite pop...

. All court, serve and volley aspects are brilliant with this rack...

. From the b-line you have a highly responsive, highly accurate, wonderful feeling, relatively big-hitting frame...

. It seems the MG Prestige mid plays very well with a vast variety of strings and @ different tensions...


But will such a racketaholic as myself be able to ultimately call this his no. 1 frame ?...:wink:... especially given that first list of arguments to the contrary?... Well, I'll say this: of all the frames I've checked and really liked this a year (including Vantages and the RD7), NONE has that 'addictive', can't-put-it-down quality as this...

Anyhow, would be pleased to hear thoughts arising from above or just random thoughts on the YT/MG/other Prestige mids...


Cheers,


R.
 
as an ex prestige mid user, i'll tell u this:

for the 10% of the time that you're actually playing at 100%, there is no better racket. it's magical.

for the other 90% of the time though...you'll b wanting to take your MP out of you bag...
 
From 2003 - 2008, I've been changing racquets like girlfriends- 2-3 month run, sometimes simultaneously (LOL) only to feel unsatisfied and wanting something different casue *something* was missing. The *magic* / feel / experience I got when I used the LM Prestige MP. I've been chasing it ever since. Then in May-June 08 I demoed the MG Prestige Mid since I already owned and liked the MP version but felt it needed more weight. And after a week of playtime I knew this was the one. Easy to use from the get go. A couple of shanks since it's a smaller head I'm acustomed to, but man oh man, when you hit on the button, it's sweeet. No complaints about stock weight- ever! I love the feel, and it is just so comfortable to hit with- finesse or power. It's a great racquet for my game and style (flat power with plays on spins and placement). Tried the younger YT P Mid.....it was alright but didn't knock my socks off for an immedieate switch. It felt more demanding (stiffer and heavier (static and swing)). Glad I got a matching pair.

MG P Mid
- feels solid-er than the LM but with a bit more feel and touch IMO. Ofcourse, string combinations can change all of this.
- the PC600 definetly had more spring and quickness off the string bed, but the MG P Mid is not that far off.
 
aphex - LOL!...

TnT - interesting... I'd be interested to compare the MG with the YT, as well as 1 day hitting with the PC600... btw what's your fave string/tensions? For my first I went Head FXP @ 50 lbs.

R.
 
I use a Prestige Tour 600 customized to 13 oz. And it is the best racquet I have ever used in my life. You just have to watch the ball and move your feet. No laziness or slouching allowed with this club.

Ross, if you don't mind me asking, what level are you on and what type of game do you play?
 
aphex - LOL!...

TnT - interesting... I'd be interested to compare the MG with the YT, as well as 1 day hitting with the PC600... btw what's your fave string/tensions? For my first I went Head FXP @ 50 lbs.

R.

Throughout the times I've been demoing racquets between 2003-2008, I've been using the simple yet durable Prince Syn Gut w DF 16 @ 58. Only within the last year I tried OG Sheep Micro 16 for mains @ 58, and 17 for Crosses @ 54 Crosses. Much soft than I'm acustomed to initially, but long lasting (~3 months) like the PSGwDF with better feel. A friend of mines is using the YT Pro (former long time Prestige Mid user and swears by the Pro version) with natural (dont know the tension) and poly @ 50 and loves it. Big flat hitter like myself, but he has a shooting fwd spin. I really don't want to be trying diferent string setups casue I'll be chasing all over again. I just want enjoy my game and be competitive.

ps I think had I not demoed the LM Prestige MP using Wilson Sensation, I would not have liked the LM version. Too bad the experience was short lived on that string, but man, what an experience. Hitting any type of shot with confidence.
 
A poem I posted about a year ago for the Prestige Mid...... Enjoy... Although some might find it disturbing.

It was just 18 months ago when I first strung you at 60 and took you out on our first date.... You were wearing that tight, dark red skirt and CAP'd top...

We flirted, and right away, from your classic, plush feel... I knew we had a chance....

Your tight, dense pattern put me in control, anticipating the next groundstroke, for as much as I tried and forced the point, you were so 'flexible' and comforting that I was amazed at your potential to make my balls spin...

Remember those shots together?... when I stepped in and shifted? ...you would dance all night and day with me... Producing some magical ellipticals with low trajectory and... yes... more spin.

You always served me well, you made me more confident... and did the work.. sparing my tendons.... And let those who say you are not who you say are.. a 93.. let them talk..., because I could always find your sweetspot and make you scream down the line...

You cut through the air so effortlessly.. even when we felt kinky and experimented with leather, silicone and lead... you still felt so comfortable in my arms afterwards.

Then, I began my affairs, katy the k90, yonex yolanda 001, katy's fat sister 88, my eyes would constantly wander and demo.... I left you sweating, in humidity, in bad need of a string-job.

I even let my 3.0 friends have their way with you, they scraped your bumper, dropped you and shanked you... while I was out, believing I was happy with someone else.

I don't want to make excuses, but you just couldn't stop talking.... in that metallic, tinny voice of yours... Until today, when I put that dampener on you, you know the one.. the one you gave me Head. You still had that old feeling, the one I fell in love with...

And yes... yes I was unfaithful... and retired you... but now... Well, it's not that I know what I want...,, because I may never know... But I know what I don't want... and that's an empty slot in my bag where you're suppose to be...

PrestigeMid...???? Can we put your buttcap back on and let me hit you from the back-side just one more time tonight? I didn't know how much I was missing you.
 
You're not crazy, you're just unable to blow your own nose without asking others whether it's a good idea or not. Asking people who've never seen you play to opine about which racquet you play best with is simply bizarre. Try asking the people you play against.
 
klementine,

Nice one!... and, yes, that's nearly as weird as the sicko who started RILF Club!... oh, hang on... er, wasn't that me?! :lol: ... Seriously, are you playing with the Pres mid now?

R.
 
You're not crazy, you're just unable to blow your own nose without asking others whether it's a good idea or not. Asking people who've never seen you play to opine about which racquet you play best with is simply bizarre. Try asking the people you play against.

Oh dear... ('SHAKES HEAD.')... talk about failing to get into the spirit of things?... what have we got here then?... :shock:

As is fairly obvious to most, my post isn't at all about asking strangers which racquet I play best with (or whatever peculiar point you were trying to make :confused: )... it's more like an ode, or a declaration, or an expression of happiness - as well as a desire to get a thread going for Pres mid users...

Anyhow, I can see any kind of 'ode to the Prestige mid' is entirely lost on such a disagreeable heathen as yourself!

R.
 
Ross, I agree......please lighten up Diablo. This is a forum for enthusiasts (and in case you're in any doubt that's a euphemism for nerd).

Anywhooooo.......back to the subject........I returned to the prestige after a 15 year hiatus, and I love it.

I have gone through all the wide body/super powered racquets out there , but could not resist the lure of the prestige and now play with MG mids.

You summed it up correctly......its like cutting with a scalpel instead of a knife/scissors; and what's more, combining it with big banger alu power @58lbs gives it decent oomph.

So there you go....I suffer a head size 5-7% smaller but if I'm gonna shank, frankly I'm gonna shank!

I am a pretty mediocre (uk 7.2 rating) and old (42) player,but I love my prestige. Lucky for you lot I don't write poetry!
 
Hey Ross, what kind of game do you play? And would you say the MG Prestige mid is maneuverable?
 
I was playing with one of my Pres Mids today (an LM, got two i.Prestiges too).

Great frame, want to try some poly in it, probably a co-poly but not sure yet. Got RIP Control in it at the moment which is a great all round long lasting string but poly just has that punch to it. Will be ordering some this week or next hopefully.
 
Isn't the LM version quite flexy?

Can't remember the specs but I wouldn't say overly so no. It's got a decent amount of heft to it, more than the MG Pres mid for instance, but it's less maneuverable as a trade off. It's solid and feel precise in terms of direction.

The i.Prestige Mid XLs are different again, in their own category to some extent. I really like them but think I need to improve my game a bit to make use of them (same with the regular length LMs to a lesser extent).

They feel a bit stiffer than the LMs or the MGs but as they are longer (27.75) there is a different flexy feel to them in the middle of the frame when you hit a ball. Hard to explain but if you tried them all out side by side you'd agree, probably/perhaps :-)

Only just getting some topspin on groundstrokes so I'm better served with an APD at the moment, more whippy on the forehand which is helping develop technique.

I'll move up to something more substantial when I've improved and can generate topspin more consistently and with less effort. I like the directional control of mids and also on 2hbhs it feels like you are really driving through the ball, same on serves to some extent.
 
A poem I posted about a year ago for the Prestige Mid...... Enjoy... Although some might find it disturbing.

It was just 18 months ago when I first strung you at 60 and took you out on our first date.... You were wearing that tight, dark red skirt and CAP'd top...

We flirted, and right away, from your classic, plush feel... I knew we had a chance....

Your tight, dense pattern put me in control, anticipating the next groundstroke, for as much as I tried and forced the point, you were so 'flexible' and comforting that I was amazed at your potential to make my balls spin...

Remember those shots together?... when I stepped in and shifted? ...you would dance all night and day with me... Producing some magical ellipticals with low trajectory and... yes... more spin.

You always served me well, you made me more confident... and did the work.. sparing my tendons.... And let those who say you are not who you say are.. a 93.. let them talk..., because I could always find your sweetspot and make you scream down the line...

You cut through the air so effortlessly.. even when we felt kinky and experimented with leather, silicone and lead... you still felt so comfortable in my arms afterwards.

Then, I began my affairs, katy the k90, yonex yolanda 001, katy's fat sister 88, my eyes would constantly wander and demo.... I left you sweating, in humidity, in bad need of a string-job.

I even let my 3.0 friends have their way with you, they scraped your bumper, dropped you and shanked you... while I was out, believing I was happy with someone else.

I don't want to make excuses, but you just couldn't stop talking.... in that metallic, tinny voice of yours... Until today, when I put that dampener on you, you know the one.. the one you gave me Head. You still had that old feeling, the one I fell in love with...

And yes... yes I was unfaithful... and retired you... but now... Well, it's not that I know what I want...,, because I may never know... But I know what I don't want... and that's an empty slot in my bag where you're suppose to be...

PrestigeMid...???? Can we put your buttcap back on and let me hit you from the back-side just one more time tonight? I didn't know how much I was missing you.

dude, overkill :P
 
My main racket racket is PC600 because of its feel and control. I do hit with a Babolat Pure Storm from time to time as it's easy to hit due to its larger sweet spot.
 
Xenakis, Finky,

Yes, I've heard superlative things about this frame with poly... in fact, drakulie, creator of 1 of the very best racket threads/clubs ever imo ("The MG Pres mid review with photos") has said the frame plays fantastic across the whole range of strings. Anyhow, as a big fan of soft polys particularly, I'd love to try it with Poly Energy or something similar like the newer soft polys. That said, I do really like it's all round performance and slightly soft, poppy feel with Head FXP... I'd definitely recommend this to multi users looking for something akin to NRG but a little lower in cost.


jaewonnie,

So you attained 110 mph serves once you switched to the MG Pres mid eh?... care to pass on some tips and go into a bit more detail there?:)


klem,

Interesting that ex-Reb 95 users like us really like the Prestige mid eh?... I recall quite a few ex-Prestige mid users getting into the Reb 95 a year or 2 back... then of course there's the side-issue of Monfils, who, having been a PC600 user for many years, suddenly converted, albeit to a heavy custom job that obviously was made to play exactly like his clubby PC600 and nothing like the retail Reb 95...


Mans,

You've enquired a few times about the maneuverability... as I said, in terms of balance, weighting, maneauverability, it's just about perfect, for me... not too light, not too heavy, just right on the button. The important thing is the sweet feeling when striking the ball... it's in the PT630 league re feel and solidness, yet easier to swing. With this frame the responsiveness, precision and feel is extroadinary in my experience...

BTW, I think you're probably guessing how it contrasts with the AG100?... For me, having had 3 or 4 protracted attempts with the Dunlop mid and actually attempted customizing to make it feel/play like a Pres mid, maneuverability is lighter with it (unless of course you mod it up a heck of a lot), it puts a lot more spin on the ball, I also rate the AG very highly indeed for serve... now, I still want to tinker with customizing it as I think it's a viable alternative (note: check out 4sounds excellent threads/posts on customizing his AG100 to play like his TGK mid), however... the AG100 just doesn't come close to the exquisite solidness and feel of the MG Pres mid.


R.
 
The only prestige mids I've tried were the i, lm, fxp and microgel. Never had the pleasure of hitting with the PC600 (yet), and didn't get the chance to hit the youtek either.

I liked the I and Microgel versions and disliked the fxp and lm versions.
i - great racquet, good balance, reasonably easy to swing, could feel a bit stiff if strung with poly or at high-ish tensions

lm - found it sluggish, quite flexible but not in a "good way", didn't particularly like the "feel" of it...quite frankly...didn't like much about it (but one of my best hitting partners over the years used them and obviously liked them ...so go figure)

fxp - felt stiff and uncomfortable (could have been the stringing)...somewhat like a VERY bad try to go back from the LM to the I version.

Microgel - perfect balance/sw for me, good feel, good at all shots, I could definitely use this racquet if I wanted to...although I prefer 95-98's usually. Since I'm quite pleased with my current racquets...I didn't see any reason to switch, and if I will I'll probably go to a 95-98...not a "89.5" when my Tour 10's give up on me ;).

Vantage 95's sound like a good option, but I would like to demo some 3 or 4 specs in order to decide on "the one".
 
Microgel - perfect balance/sw for me, good feel, good at all shots, I could definitely use this racquet if I wanted to...although I prefer 95-98's usually. Vantage 95's sound like a good option, but I would like to demo some 3 or 4 specs in order to decide on "the one".

Totally agree about MG Pres mid comments (though my biggie issues are getting more oomph on my 2hbh and probably serve, as well as seeing if in the long-run the relative lack of spin bothers me as it has done previously with other racks)...

I like the VT frames a lot and have come very close to permanently switching to them... and yet, I think they just don't quite have that x-factor or unique, special quality, for me... great quality frames though imo...

R.
 
Totally agree about MG Pres mid comments (though my biggie issues are getting more oomph on my 2hbh and probably serve, as well as seeing if in the long-run the relative lack of spin bothers me as it has done previously with other racks)...

I like the VT frames a lot and have come very close to permanently switching to them... and yet, I think they just don't quite have that x-factor or unique, special quality, for me... great quality frames though imo...

R.

I've given up on trying to find "x-factor, unique, special qualities".
Every racket is unique, and as long as I get sufficient feedback for control, sufficient flex for comfort and I find a nice combo of mass/balance/sw for my game ... I'm all set.
I'm playing my best when I don't "f**k around" with equipment too much, but just keep playing with the same racquets over and over. I find having a few matched frames that I can play with much more important than continuing to "search" for something "better".
I've played very good tennis with M-Speed Pro no 1's, then switched to the Volkl DNX 10 mids for "more power", and for the last 3 years been playing with the Tour 10 MP Gen 1's (I've switched from the dnx's because I only had 2 of them, and they were not "matched" and I found the "heavy" one to be a bit too much for me...albeit I could have gotten used to it).
Got 3 Gen 1's which were more easy to match for me ... and I'll only give up on them due to "no availability of grommets".
I've already decided I want a certain spec range...my next racquets will most likely be Vantages if I can demo a few specs...and if not ... I'll just try 3 or 4 frames locally or from friends/playing partners ... pick one of those, get used to it, buy 3-5 of those and be done with it for the next 4 years or so.
I've been through "the demo process" and since I can't really demo much around here... I had to "buy/re-sell" frames ... and I'll be trying to avoid that as much as possible in the future :mad:.
 
jaewonnie,

So you attained 110 mph serves once you switched to the MG Pres mid eh?... care to pass on some tips and go into a bit more detail there?:)


R.

Oh lol. I left out some details :P. During my switch i was like 13 and going on 14 and my upper body strength hugely increased during this time so, thats factor number 1. And...it sorta took 1 year to get fully used to the MG coming from a tweener. Factor 2, time. :D. But then I got the hang of serving thx to FYB footage of pro players. And...ya I went from a pancaker to a serve bomber who can unleash 100mph anytime. And when I switched to the YT, I learned to serve bombs with ease.

Ill hang on with the tips for now cuz I think I found a way to tune up my technique to hit a serve even faster but I havent tried it much yet and today when I'm gonna play indoors I'll let you know. Either it'll be uber fast or I shank and tear my rotator cuff :)
 
To me the PC600 is the best frame I have ever played with. Some things are difficult to articulate into words, and I think those who use this racket will know what I mean. Control, feel, precision, weight, plow through; it has everything any player could wish for. I just wished they still made them; it is very hard to find good ones in decent condition, and if you're lucky enough to find them they are usually quite expensive :(
 
Xenakis, Finky,

Yes, I've heard superlative things about this frame with poly... in fact, drakulie, creator of 1 of the very best racket threads/clubs ever imo ("The MG Pres mid review with photos") has said the frame plays fantastic across the whole range of strings. Anyhow, as a big fan of soft polys particularly, I'd love to try it with Poly Energy or something similar like the newer soft polys. That said, I do really like it's all round performance and slightly soft, poppy feel with Head FXP... I'd definitely recommend this to multi users looking for something akin to NRG but a little lower in cost.

Had my MGPM in full Big Ace 1.19.... Gawd it was sweet.

I can't get any Big Ace where I am now anymore, so trying different stuff. Atm I'm stringing Kgut with Alu rough. Works alright, nicer power but not as nice feel imo.

I hated full NRG though, much preferred NXT as a multi. NRG or Kgut felt like they are more "sticky" and lock together, whereas NXT feels "smooth" and keeps moving so it frays really quick (I actually like that).
Anyone know what is similiar to NXT in this aspect?
 
Howdy, Ross.

Gotta love it when you come across a good fit, right? Feeling is believing I guess.

Not so surprised that you're digging the Prestiges in the wake of that search to replace the ol' 6.1 Classics. Hoop size doesn't seem to matter much when it's rather easy to find the sweet-spot and there's certainly an extra degree of predictable response in a racquet like that.

I found it rather easy to believe that several of our pals here weren't too wild about the LM Prestige mids after I got a pair a while ago. Not enough head-light balance for me and an odd sort of semi-thuddy feel that didn't really seem to furnish much useful feedback. Lots of lead on the handles along with a lot of patience and these have become a lot more fun, but I'm still hot to have a go with one of the MG's, too.

Have to figure on some sort of trade-off in any different racquet out there I suppose. Ever had a go with a Redondo mid?
 
Howdy, Ross.

Gotta love it when you come across a good fit, right? Feeling is believing I guess.

Not so surprised that you're digging the Prestiges in the wake of that search to replace the ol' 6.1 Classics. Hoop size doesn't seem to matter much when it's rather easy to find the sweet-spot and there's certainly an extra degree of predictable response in a racquet like that.

I found it rather easy to believe that several of our pals here weren't too wild about the LM Prestige mids after I got a pair a while ago. Not enough head-light balance for me and an odd sort of semi-thuddy feel that didn't really seem to furnish much useful feedback. Lots of lead on the handles along with a lot of patience and these have become a lot more fun, but I'm still hot to have a go with one of the MG's, too.

Have to figure on some sort of trade-off in any different racquet out there I suppose. Ever had a go with a Redondo mid?

Hi fuzz,

Yes, as you know, I rate the old PSC's very highly, 1 of the goat imo... as I said before though, despite being majorly different, the MG Pre mid actually reminded me ever so slightly of... it had just a flavour of... another of my goats - the PT630... Re the Redondo mid the answer is "No, but would like to sometime for sure."

Hope you're playing lots (unlike me)!

R.
 
Can you hit an adequate amount of topspin with the MG Prestige Mid?
 
Oh lol. I left out some details :P. During my switch i was like 13 and going on 14 and my upper body strength hugely increased during this time so, thats factor number 1. And...it sorta took 1 year to get fully used to the MG coming from a tweener. Factor 2, time. :D. But then I got the hang of serving thx to FYB footage of pro players. And...ya I went from a pancaker to a serve bomber who can unleash 100mph anytime. And when I switched to the YT, I learned to serve bombs with ease.

Ill hang on with the tips for now cuz I think I found a way to tune up my technique to hit a serve even faster but I havent tried it much yet and today when I'm gonna play indoors I'll let you know. Either it'll be uber fast or I shank and tear my rotator cuff :)

ok just played. Uhh there wasnt really a secret technique. It was just a fundamental step that I didnt emphasize to much. I didnt really keep my tossing arm up too high and that made me hit sooner and lower.

But after fixing this, I also tried tensing my tossing arm so that the stress in the tossing arm can be transfered into energy and swingspeed to the hitting arm and it worked pretty ok. I found that tensing ur tossing arm brings in the upper torso of ur hitting side much harder and faster. And ya serves didnt really go in much :oops: but one serve that was in looked past 110mph. I'm just estimating judging how fast the ball bounces into the service box and past the returner. And if the ball look elongated than I think it was pretty fast :)

Anyways try out for urself
 
Prestige midsters,

Just curious, any of you ever lead up your Pres mids? If so, to what effect?... how did/do you like it?

R.
 
Prestige midsters,

Maybe you all knew this but it was news to me...

"vsbabolat" - 1 of TT's respected authoritys on such info - has let me know Safin actually did use the MG Prestige mid for a while...

Safin_2009_Davis_cup.jpg


"Yeeeeaaahhh baaaby!":)

R.
 
I had lead on my Prestige Mids, along with a leather grip, so they ran 360+ grams.

Lots of pop on serve, and plenty of depth off of the ground, but I wound up looking toward something with just a bit more stick off of the ground when my feet weren't 100% on that day.

Ross - you'll get a kick out of this, but I've got a C10 on the way. Seems like we're running parallel paths here. :)
 
I had lead on my Prestige Mids, along with a leather grip, so they ran 360+ grams.

Lots of pop on serve, and plenty of depth off of the ground, but I wound up looking toward something with just a bit more stick off of the ground when my feet weren't 100% on that day.

Ross - you'll get a kick out of this, but I've got a C10 on the way. Seems like we're running parallel paths here. :)

Hi SlapShot,

Re the leaded Pres mid, how much lead excatly and where?

Re the C10... yes, great, unique frame in its own right - and it shares a trait with the MG Pre mid, namely a lovely 'swingability'... balance/weighting... way of lining up behind the ball.

R.
 
I had 5" of lead at 3&9 - amounted to basically only 2.5g - just enough to add a touch of weight to the head.

I did notice a difference, especially with regard to spin on my serve - it was very, VERY quick through the strike zone on serves.
 
I had 5" of lead at 3&9 - amounted to basically only 2.5g - just enough to add a touch of weight to the head.

I did notice a difference, especially with regard to spin on my serve - it was very, VERY quick through the strike zone on serves.

Hmm... very interesting...:)
 
SlapShot and Ross K, could you guys get adequate spin when needed? For me one of the biggest parts of my game is spin on serves. I use a kick serve often, and any help is nice.
 
I found plenty of spin from the Prestige, but I hit relatively flat. On good days, my kicker was clearing 6' by the baseline.

The one thing that I've not gotten back since switching to the LTD is my topspin BH - that was my best shot with the Prestige.
 
2 hands or one? I am a twohander and can often times flatten mine out better than my forehand
 
2 hands or one? I am a twohander and can often times flatten mine out better than my forehand

2H.

I hit it flatter most of the time, but used to have a pretty wicked dip on it. I've been working to get that back - not sure what it was about the Prestige that helped that (I'd be willing to nominate the grip shape).
 
2H.

I hit it flatter most of the time, but used to have a pretty wicked dip on it. I've been working to get that back - not sure what it was about the Prestige that helped that (I'd be willing to nominate the grip shape).

Do you use an eastern grip on your non dominant hand? I hit continental and eastern.
 
I'm a bit more extreme than that - I'm almost western on my non-dominant. I went flatter for a while, but I keep wandering back to a more extreme BH grip. I just need to make sure my feet get in position so that my core provides the power.
 
I'm a bit more extreme than that - I'm almost western on my non-dominant. I went flatter for a while, but I keep wandering back to a more extreme BH grip. I just need to make sure my feet get in position so that my core provides the power.

Ah I see. Personally, I find I can flatten my twohander easily, just getting that extra topspin can be tough.
 
Out of all of the frames I had over the years, I am keeping my Trek-font PC600s. (And my PT630s.) You have to love that old school flex. I should have kept my MG Prestige mids but I like the slightly more heft of the YT Prestige mid. I wouldn't say it's enough to keep them (I am selling them in the classifieds), but for the time I do have them I do enjoy hitting that flattish, heavier ball than with my PB10mids. If no one buys my YT Prestige mids, I may just swap the pallets, add leather and 5g of lead at the 3/9 and see what happens.
 
ross.... i know what you are going through! i go through all these pro stock midplus frames then pick up my trek font pc600 and for the life of me i dont know why i can hit more pace with it!!!! and yes, thats all things being equal.... strings, weight, balance, string tensions when comparing to say... a pt57e? go figure and i am not an old school flat hitter either? i hit at 5.0-5.5 level.
 
Wow, a fantastic session with my MG Pres mid... I'm very close to committing to this full-time I think... :shock:

As posted about at some length in UK Racketaholics thread last night (read UK Racketaholics in odds and ends for more), with this racket, though still predominantly b-line, i just play with far more variety and fluency, comfort and ease, I also play more defensively, more controlled and less erratic, stay in the points longer, serve with far less errors, etc... I really do play very differently, and indeed better I think to my normal more aggressive, **** or bust, b-line game...

I admit to feeling a bit daunted and even puzzled that I seem to be so enjoying this dense pattern, flat hitting, pretty demanding (for me anyway) mid... but as I say... this really is doing it for me.:)

R.
 
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