Calling all Prestige mid users!...

[Ross K]

I had 5" of lead at 3&9 - amounted to basically only 2.5g - just enough to add a touch of weight to the head.

I did notice a difference, especially with regard to spin on my serve - it was very, VERY quick through the strike zone on serves.

Anyone else got any lead tape/customization thoughts/experiences they might care to share?... I've put on a tiny amount @ 3 and 9 (1g or a tad more) just to see how that effects the performance (if at all.) What I'm looking for is a bit more power for my 2hbh and serve.

Secondly, anyone happen to have any info/stats on Monfils's and Safin's set ups?... I'm especially interested in the lead tape on their frames - exactly where was it put and how much was slapped on!?

Thanks Prestige midsters!

R.

 

[Ross K]

Anyone else got any lead tape/customization thoughts/experiences they might care to share?... I've put on a tiny amount @ 3 and 9 (1g or a tad more) just to see how that effects the performance (if at all.) What I'm looking for is a bit more power for my 2hbh and serve.

Secondly, anyone happen to have any info/stats on Monfils's and Safin's set ups?... I'm especially interested in the lead tape on their frames - exactly where was it put and how much was slapped on!?

Thanks Prestige midsters!

R.

Anyone???.............................

 

[Ross K]

Well... ploughing on here in the decreasing hope that a few of you Prestige boys might chime in one of these days - LOL!...

So... had a brief hit with leather and OG and found the hand-feel too bulky (not neccesarlly too heavy... a little maybe... but def too large and bulky in hand)... I wouldn't mind a grip size smaller for this kind of mod. But as I don't have a smaller grip I think the next step is to try different (lighter) grip combos, or to actually go inside the b/cap :shock: ... which would be a first for me.

Game tomorrow so I need to sort it out soon. It will also be interesting to see if I find a bit more oomph for serve/2hbh with my 3g of lead @ 10 and 2... btw, my set up presently is Head FXP @ 50 lbs.

Any Prestige mid ppl out there care to check in with a thought or experience or whatever!?

R.

 

[Deleted member 25923]

Ross, have you ever settled with one frame?

 

[Ross K]

^^^

It has been known believe it or not!

 

[WitheringDemise]

Does anyone else hate the feeling of the Youtek Versus the Feeling of a microgel? I had just got my demo's yesterday, and at practice, I noticed that the D3o Tech DOES seem to work, just sometimes not on the shots I want it to be... The microgel also felt more muted and less spontaneous..

 

[mozzer]

If anyone has a battered one going for cheap, let me know! Any model Always wanted to try a prestife but never had a chance!

 

[Jaewonnie]

Does anyone else hate the feeling of the Youtek Versus the Feeling of a microgel? I had just got my demo's yesterday, and at practice, I noticed that the D3o Tech DOES seem to work, just sometimes not on the shots I want it to be... The microgel also felt more muted and less spontaneous..

I do love the solid, stable, thwok sound of the microgel.

But my youtek I think is a head QC fail cuz theres like no weight in the head or throat. Swing feel is terrible as a result. And I dun feel the d3o working..lol. I still use it though.

 

[Ross K]

I do love the solid, stable, thwok sound of the microgel.

But my youtek I think is a head QC fail cuz theres like no weight in the head or throat. Swing feel is terrible as a result. And I dun feel the d3o working..lol. I still use it though.

Why though?! ... why not go back to MG Pres mid or other Pres mids?... you do know J, you've single-handedly put me off getting the YT mid?!...

R.

 

[Marcus]

I'd say the MG and YT are both "tinny" when compared to the LM Prestige Mid, now there's a solid frame for you..... !

 

[0d1n]

^^ The LM version felt like cr4p to me when compared to the Microgel Mid.
Haven't tried the Youtek yet.

 

[Jaewonnie]

Why though?! ... why not go back to MG Pres mid or other Pres mids?... you do know J, you've single-handedly put me off getting the YT mid?!...

R.

it looks better well not just that. I think the serve potential with the youtek is better. Serving with the microgel is easier though. And for some reason I'm getting more spin with the youtek.

You should actually demo it. I think mines just a factory fluke...

 

[Xenakis]

^^ The LM version felt like cr4p to me when compared to the Microgel Mid.
Haven't tried the Youtek yet.

I thought the opposite, MG was too insubstantial feeling to me although I only got to swing it a bit and bounce balls off the strings (I restrung one for someone).

The LM feels more like an older mid with its higher swingweight. The MG seems similar to the AG100 in that it's a lighter feeling mid which some prefer, some don't.

Also the LMs (at least the ones I had) are Made in Austria, which is, nice.

 

[vsbabolat]

^^ The LM version felt like cr4p to me when compared to the Microgel Mid.
Haven't tried the Youtek yet.

Yeah the LM Prestige was garbage.

 

[Xenakis]

Yeah the LM Prestige was garbage.

Interesting, is there an argument as to why?

 

[vsbabolat]

Interesting, is there an argument as to why?

No stability in the hoop, had vibration like a tuning fork, a horrible metallic feel, and a sweet spot that was very low in the string bed.

 

[Xenakis]

No stability in the hoop, had vibration like a tuning fork, a horrible metallic feel, and a sweet spot that was very low in the string bed.

Hmm, thanks for adding some detail. I didn't get any of that, thought the mid was a really solid frame, each to their own perhaps.

 

[Ross K]

^^^

Re the LM Pres mid, maybe it's one of those frames - rather like the BB11 mid - that ppl either love or hate - that ppl either think of as solid or toy-like?

R.

 

[Say Chi Sin Lo]

No love for the i.Prestige Mid?

I thought that was a unique frame. It was like a precision bat (it felt pretty stiff to me).

But I'm using the PC600 and I can't see myself switching anytime soon (or forever).

 

[Ross K]

No love for the i.Prestige Mid?

I thought that was a unique frame. It was like a precision bat (it felt pretty stiff to me).

But I'm using the PC600 and I can't see myself switching anytime soon (or forever).

Unfortunately I've never had the pleasure of hitting either frame you mention (though I'm familiar with the i. Pres MP)... certainly the PC600 is a very hard bat to pick up these days where I am.

R.

 

[nabbydian]

Unfortunately I've never had the pleasure of hitting either frame you mention (though I'm familiar with the i. Pres MP)... certainly the PC600 is a very hard bat to pick up these days where I am.

R.

i would say the PC600 is a very hard stick to pick up anywhere....right now its so difficult to find one i'm buying 4 1/2 although i usually use 4 1/4 grip.

 

[witit]

Prestige Tour 600

I was able to acquire the Prestige Tour 600 of the *bay. Amazing feel and plow through. Very nice and plush. Much better than the Microgel or Youtek. Perfect balance and weight. I can generate really good head speed. The best racquet I have played to date. Just want to share. It is really amazing.

Now I wonder what the Classic would play like if I am lucky to find one.

 

[big bang]

Unfortunately I've never had the pleasure of hitting either frame you mention (though I'm familiar with the i. Pres MP)... certainly the PC600 is a very hard bat to pick up these days where I am.

R.

they are not that hard to find in EU, I often see them.
A few months back I made a FANTASTIC trade with a guy that didnt seem to know better. I gave him 2 YT speed pros for 2 PC600, 2 K90 and 2 Fischer pro no 1:shock:..

 

[Jaewonnie]

Wow lucky
on the bay they're going for like $500 + (new)

 

[MarrratSafin]

Wow lucky
on the bay they're going for like $500 + (new)

No need to get new ones. Plastic on grips bump up the prices a lot. I can understand the earlier Prestige Pro's going for $500 in new condition but PC600's in that range is way overpriced even new. You can see they've been on the bay for months and no sale. On a side note I often get VGC classic Prestiges for around $100 on the bay, or somewhere else. Just be patient in your search.

 

[klementine]

klementine,

Nice one!... and, yes, that's nearly as weird as the sicko who started RILF Club!... oh, hang on... er, wasn't that me?! :lol: ... Seriously, are you playing with the Pres mid now?

R.

Talk about a delay!!

Yes.

I have 5.
1)-unused. 2)-With silicone, lead and leather and well-over 13oz. SW??? 360ish. 1)- uncustomized.. 12.2oz. with a 325sw. and 1)- with synthetic grip and 6grams at 3 and 9o'clock.

All are strung with a multi in the mains and BBace in the crosses. 52/50.

When I'm feeling like a semi-finalist the 2 with silicone,lead and leather are absolute bullies. About 40% of play.

The two that are pretty much stock ( except for the six-grams at 3&9 ) are the same static weight but different balance and slightly different sw. I play mainly with these two.

I experimented, demoed and had extensive loans of many other racquets.. and since I don't want to shell out the $$$$'s for some other rare tgk's and pt's ( which are rather difficult to hunt down ), I stuck with the MGPM's... for better and worse.

 

[cg.tennis]

This is exactly what I felt about LM Prestige (Mid and MP both included).

No stability in the hoop, had vibration like a tuning fork, a horrible metallic feel, and a sweet spot that was very low in the string bed.

 

[klementine]

I'm having a change of heart about my modifications. :???:

As you can see by my avatar... I had an accident that resulted in a MGPresMid casualty... It was a hot day and I was in bad need of an overgrip replacement... went for a serve and the racquet flew out of my hand (usuaully grip pretty low on the handle for serving), landed flat at 12o'clock, turned into a yonex-- the strings were still tight enough so I continued to play and it turned into a wrangled mess after 20min. or so

Now I have an extra handle.... and wanted to extend my existing MGPresMids by .25inches + 1/8inch (as everyone knows Head racquets tend to sit down an 1/8inch after stringing).

My MGPresMids are currently 13.7-13.9oz. with a 360ish SW and 11-12pts.HL.

So now I'm in the middle of removing the silicone from two of them :neutral:
and wishing to add that 3/8inches extension , along with 7grams total at 3&9...

The expected specs should be ... 12.5oz. 340ish SW and 5pts.HL and 27.25 inches....

Will let this thread know how it plays in a couple of days.... hopefully.
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Ross,

Out of curiosity, are you still swinging the PresMid?

 

[Jaewonnie]

Wow, u have a hefty set up.

 

[Ross K]

Ross,

Out of curiosity, are you still swinging the PresMid?

Hi klem,

Unfortunately not... I was totally snared, hooked and seduced by the feel of the Pres mid - LOL :roll: ... however, reality set in and I soberly realized the frame didn't really fit my game, it was a tad too demanding for me tbh, etc. I know, I know... I'm not worthy!

The route I'm taking presently is on 2 fronts... I'm experimenting with the APD (this frame would seem to be a better fit for my game, faults accepted :wink, And I'm looking at XL frames too (PSTGT+), as I've had the thought for a while that plus-size rackets could well provide me with a bit more in certain departments (serve, 2hbh, etc.)

Look forward to hearing about your experiment.

R.

 

[klementine]

Wow, u have a hefty set up.

^ It has it's advantages and disadvantages.
Advantages- Serve returns, drop-shots, slices
Disadvantages- Cannot easily make last second adjustments.

I never started out thinking... I want a stick that's 390grams with a 365sw... but that's what the machine measured. At 11-12pts.HL it swings surprisingly easy.

But the fact is that the longer I play them (going on 3weeks now) the more I notice that big disadvantage-- last second adjustments. Playing with sticks like this is like playing chess-- if you know your next 3-4 steps, you're good-- if your opponent surprises you-- you're not in such good shape.

Hi klem,

Unfortunately not... I was totally snared, hooked and seduced by the feel of the Pres mid - LOL :roll: ... however, reality set in and I soberly realized the frame didn't really fit my game, it was a tad too demanding for me tbh, etc. I know, I know... I'm not worthy!

The route I'm taking presently is on 2 fronts... I'm experimenting with the APD (this frame would seem to be a better fit for my game, faults accepted :wink, And I'm looking at XL frames too (PSTGT+), as I've had the thought for a while that plus-size rackets could well provide me with a bit more in certain departments (serve, 2hbh, etc.)

Look forward to hearing about your experiment.

R.

A racquetholic such as yourself is always worthy Ross-- and the PresMid with a soft-poly at 40lbs. will always be waiting to awaken your 2HBH.

 

[ManuGinobili]

^^^^^^^^ brought out the i.prestige mid yesterday for some training, felt everything you said.

This stick is just so much fun for hard hitting, arguably the best feel among the stiffer prestiges (notice how I masterfully took the PT630 and PC600 out of the equation ). But last night after just half an hour of heavy rallying, I started to frame every backhand and do morally wrong things on the FH... sighh... guess it will remain a caged beast till I give birth to a son and turn him into a 4.5

 

[SlapShot]

Oh crap. Bought a YT Mid today, and hit with it for about 3 hours. I'm going back to the Prestige. I was hitting with heavier top than I do with the C10, and the feel is much firmer than the MG that I used to use - much to my happiness.

 

[Jaewonnie]

Congratz

 

[SlapShot]

Congratz

I knew it was going to happen - I loved the MG, but it was a bit flexy for my. The YT is definitely a bit more firm - it creates big big spin for a mid, that's for sure.

 

[Ross K]

Oh crap. Bought a YT Mid today, and hit with it for about 3 hours. I'm going back to the Prestige. I was hitting with heavier top than I do with the C10, and the feel is much firmer than the MG that I used to use - much to my happiness.

SlapShot,

OMG!... nooo!... don't tell me that!

You know that at the start of summer I went from the MG Pres mid to the C10 Pro - and one of the main reasons was the lack of heavy topspin, whereas I found the C10 to be very topspin friendly. :roll:

("Sigh.")

With the MG Pres mid, as much as I was totally seduced by the feel (and I always thought of it as being a like a cousin to the PT630), by the solidness, balance, weighting, maneuverability, way of swinging, etc, the issues that arose for me were: in the areas of lack of easy topspin, lack of boom on 2hbh, I thought my game, mainly topspin b-line, was better suited to frames with more easily accessible power, as well as being better suited to open pattern (though I'll admit it was interesting too see my game alter and become more all court and less one-dimensional), and generally I thought the rack was probably a tad too demanding for me...

SS, to tell the truth, I dread to think what might happen if I found one of these YT mids going at a decent price in the UK!

ATB,

R.

BTW, very important qsn - what string/tension is on that YT Pres mid of yours that you found spinnier and more solid than the C10 Pro?

BTW2... to all you YT Pres mid users out there... I know I shouldn't even be asking given my advanced racketaholic condition :grin: , but does anyone else have opinions on the spin factor and other issues I've raised in relation to the YT Pres mid (which I've never hit with)?

 

[klementine]

^ Ross,

I don't know if you still have an MGPresMid in your possession but it's worth experimenting with different tensions and gauges before completely giving up on it.

I might have mentioned this before-- but at the moment I have 18g BigBanger Ace @ 40lbs. (18.2kilos). It has 're-awakened' by 2HBH... I'm getting much more depth and pace.

It has also enlarged the sweetspot on the frame... I would not describe it as 'mushy' or 'dead/mute' because BBAce is a softer, thinner poly ( I would not dare try such a tension with a multi/syn.gut )... I'm rather liking it.... now want to try a stiffer poly in the same 1.12-1.18 gauge at the same or lower tension.

Still......????? Best of Luck.

 

[klementine]

On a side note-

My stringer (here in Greece) had strung racquets for the 2004 Olympic games in Athens.

When I asked him how many clients of his had requested such a low tension, he replied with a grin 'None, only the pros string that low'.

The longer I play with polys (18g for a tight racquet like the MGPresMid) at low tension, the more I realize that strings and tension are of higher priority than racquet type.

You can have the 'perfect' racquet with the wrong tension and string and it can be completely unplayable.

But an 'imperfect' racquet with the right strings and tension can provide confidence and work miracles.

 

[SlapShot]

SlapShot,

OMG!... nooo!... don't tell me that!

You know that at the start of summer I went from the MG Pres mid to the C10 Pro - and one of the main reasons was the lack of heavy topspin, whereas I found the C10 to be very topspin friendly. :roll:

("Sigh.")

With the MG Pres mid, as much as I was totally seduced by the feel (and I always thought of it as being a like a cousin to the PT630), by the solidness, balance, weighting, maneuverability, way of swinging, etc, the issues that arose for me were: in the areas of lack of easy topspin, lack of boom on 2hbh, I thought my game, mainly topspin b-line, was better suited to frames with more easily accessible power, as well as being better suited to open pattern (though I'll admit it was interesting too see my game alter and become more all court and less one-dimensional), and generally I thought the rack was probably a tad too demanding for me...

SS, to tell the truth, I dread to think what might happen if I found one of these YT mids going at a decent price in the UK!

ATB,

R.

BTW, very important qsn - what string/tension is on that YT Pres mid of yours that you found spinnier and more solid than the C10 Pro?

BTW2... to all you YT Pres mid users out there... I know I shouldn't even be asking given my advanced racketaholic condition :grin: , but does anyone else have opinions on the spin factor and other issues I've raised in relation to the YT Pres mid (which I've never hit with)?

Mine was a prestrung dealer sample for a local shop, and it came strung with Sonic Pro at 56-57# (my guess). It's a solid feeling string, and I might stay with it, depending on how it keeps tension.

There has always been something about the balance of the Prestige mid that has allowed me to whip through the ball and create more topspin that one would think with the pattern, but I think the lower power level also helps - I found that I had to work on closing the racquet face more with the C10, which is not a natural stroke for me.