Can a Frenchman win the French?

Will a Frenchman win the French Open?


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HipRotation

Hall of Fame
Much is expected of 16-year-old Corentin Moutet, the young lefty with tons of topspin on the FH. He also has a very fluid service motion that will especially help on key points played in the ad court.
Looking at him and noticing his birth date is 1999 makes me wonder that there's a real possibility of there may not be a male Grand Slam winner born in the 90s :eek:
 

Mainad

Bionic Poster
Looking at him and noticing his birth date is 1999 makes me wonder that there's a real possibility of there may not be a male Grand Slam winner born in the 90s :eek:
Well, there wasn't one born in the 70s or 80s so why should the 90s be any different? ;)
 

kishnabe

Talk Tennis Guru
A Brit won Wimbledon. After that, anything can happen.
Murray is a good grass courter.....so it was bound to happen.

If Djokdal both lose early....and Monfils or Tsonga run deep. Even then there is Murray and Federer.
 

Tenez!

Professional
Like we Brits did when Murray won Wimbledon last year? :)
Way more. You wouldn't believe how viscerally attached to their champions the French are. When David Douillet won the Olympic gold in judo in 2000, he was made a Minister for Sport for 2 years. The guy's barely literate!
The 1998 French soccer team is still asked for advice on how to lead the current batch of players. 20 years on!
Titles have a huge importance in France, coupled with an unhealthy negative spin on failure.

Pierce and Bartoli not exactly french names like up and comer Garcia, the best french players are not that french.
This is a joke right? How was Scalia named to the Supreme Court when he was, by your logic, inevitably Italian?
Your surname is the most random thing in your life that you can't change, along with height and early baldness.

Well, I don't think 'Garcia' is a typically French name either, nor was 'Mauresmo' for that matter but it is where you are born and brought up that counts!
Thank goodness for reason. But Mauresmo/Mauresmau is pretty French, it means something like "bad swamp" in Occitan (Southern brand of Medieval French)

I suspect the French would happily swap their 13 top 100 players for our 1 double-slam winner.
I suspect so too. See how revered crusty curmudgeon Noah still is, when Tsonga packs twice the skill Noah ever had.

Well, there wasn't one born in the 70s or 80s so why should the 90s be any different? ;)
I don't think you grasp the magnitude of this outcome: they're not just talking about French tennis players...
If Djokovic/Murray continue until 2020 (still younger than Fed is today!), it is very possible that the next new winner of a slam will be born in the 2000s, thus skipping the 1990s entirely.
It beggars belief.
 
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I suspect so too. See how revered crusty curmudgeon Noah still is, when Tsonga packs twice the skill Noah ever had.
That's debatable. Noah won the French in a difficult era and against good players. Don't make it seem as if it's obvious because it isn't. You just happen to like Tsonga better.
 

Tenez!

Professional
I really don't see how this could be seriously disputed. Compare 1983 Roland Garros Final :
with 2008 AO Tsonga-Nadal or 2011 WB Tsonga-Federer. The standard has risen so much that it's barely the same game.

In fact, I distinctly remember Noah saying about the 2011 USO final: "I saw them on TV and it looked like a video game. I don't like it, they've sapped the soul of tennis." (Le Monde interview)
 
I really don't see how this could be seriously disputed. Compare 1983 Roland Garros Final :
with 2008 AO Tsonga-Nadal or 2011 WB Tsonga-Federer. The standard has risen so much that it's barely the same game.

In fact, I distinctly remember Noah saying about the 2011 USO final: "I saw them on TV and it looked like a video game. I don't like it, they've sapped the soul of tennis." (Le Monde interview)
Oh, I thought you were comparing achievements. In fact, you're just saying Gulbis could beat Laver. Alright then.

Let's take presentism to its logical conclusion: "anything in the past is worse, so it's hard to understand how someone like that revered crusty curmudgeon Connors can even be compared to Kohlschreiber, whose skill set is much more impressive."
 

The Green Mile

Bionic Poster
Tsonga on Clay is a mystery. The guy play amazing on the dirt one day, and then utter crap the next. Even his movement drastically changes.
 

Mainad

Bionic Poster
Tsonga on Clay is a mystery. The guy play amazing on the dirt one day, and then utter crap the next. Even his movement drastically changes.
He is the only one of the current crop of titled French players who has never won a title on clay and yet he has achieved more than any other current French player including going deeper at Roland Garros than anybody else! Go figure!!! o_O
 

Fedinkum

Legend
Any French locals can shed some light on why such a great tennis nation produced so few champions in the past 2 decades? Who was the last french slam winner?
 

Tenez!

Professional
Perhaps because they already live the high life of millionaires without needing to? Not a single one of the Top6 French players lives in France (all in neighbouring Switzerland), so no immediate pressure the way Murray experienced it.

Only Tsonga seems to really go for it, and he gets the most credit by far (also for taking out the Big4 repeatedly)
 

heninfan99

Talk Tennis Guru
Any French locals can shed some light on why such a great tennis nation produced so few champions in the past 2 decades? Who was the last french slam winner?
Actually, I know. During the US Open. There is a restaurant that the top French players go to. They drink & party and enjoy life during this grand slam.

The top French players enjoy life too much to be champions. Never in a million years would a French go gluten free.
 
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StanTheMan

Hall of Fame
Gasquet will miraculously pull it off this year.

Mark my words.

I can even go as far as predicting his path:

First round: beats Groth in routine sets;
Second round: beats Ramos in somewhat tight four sets;
Third round: beats Fognini after getting breadsticked in the first set, only to win the second in a tie-break and watch Fognini lose his mind into a 3-6, 0-6 in the last two.
Fourth round: beats Berdych in three sets, the czech being out of form and only getting that far thanks to a very easy draw.
Quarterfinal: beats Wawrinka in five epic sets, actually surpassing the epicness of their encounter in Wimbledon. One-handed backhand lovers will ejaculate constantly throughout this whole match. 11-9 in the fifth.
Semifinal: beats Monfils, who has shockingly beat Djokovic in the previous round. Monfils won't stand the pressure after beating the current unbeatable legend and will succumb in four sets to his long-time countryman tormentor.
Final: Murray. A match to be praised for centuries. Murray will outplay Gasquet in the first two sets with precise returns and sharp grinding game. 7-5, 6-2. In the third, however, he'll relax a bit too much and allow an early break. That will be enough for the eager french crowd to star supporting his man, who'll take the third 6-4. In the fourth, no breaks and off to the tie-break we go. After saving seven match points, Gasquet takes it 14-12. The crowd goes absolutely wild and the empire doesn't stand a chance in trying to keep it down. By that point, there'll be thousands of people gathering in the Champs-Élysées, holding their breath for the decisive set.

Gasquet seems confident and fit, while Murray looks tired and is complaing about his back whilst angrily yelling at Mauresmo and his infant child.
Both men hold their serves in a very nervous manner till 4-4. Murray, then, gest broken on a DF and it's Gasquet to serve for the championship. However, his nerves lead him into a streak of UE and he's broken at love. 5-5. By then, the respective thread in this forum has beaten the numbers of posts record. Murray goes to serve and gets broken one more time. He's simply being outplayed by a very strong performance from Gasquet.

Gasquet on serve. 0-15. 15-15. 30-15. 30-30. 40-30. Championship point. Every french man, woman and child who's not about to have a heart attack in Philippe Chatrier is now either on the streets or at the edges of their couches at home.

Gasquet misses his first serve. Puts the second on court. Murray catiously returns it, and the last point of the match is a very long and scared one. After the 28th shot, 14th from murray, the ball bounces too much and isn't deep enough. Gasquet prepares himself for the taking. The world stops for a moment while he moves his body into the backhand perfect position. And he goes for it. And it's the most beautiful one-handed backhand down the line the world has ever seen.


Both men go to the floor. Gasquet can't hold back the tears. The crowd enters the court and carries him.

A frenchman has won the french open again. Finally.
 
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Tsonga seems the best option. Monfils may get hot for a match or to however I don't see him sustaining the necessary form for 2 weeks. Tsonga has had deeps runs before and with a good draw and an inspired performance he might be able to make it happen

However the top 5 are still the favorites for the thing if you ask me.
 

donquijote

G.O.A.T.
Pierce and Bartoli not exactly french names like up and comer Garcia, the best french players are not that french.
It's the 21st century, move on. What is next? Black French/English/German/Dutch soccer nationals are not national enough?
P.S: I think Mary Pierce's father was an American if my memory doesn't deceive me. Nevertheless, not important.
 

Mainad

Bionic Poster
It's the 21st century, move on. What is next? Black French/English/German/Dutch soccer nationals are not national enough?
P.S: I think Mary Pierce's father was an American if my memory doesn't deceive me. Nevertheless, not important.
Mary Pierce's father was American and her mother French. She was born in Montreal and brought up in the USA so she is entitled to American, Canadian and French passports. She chose to represent France and became a French national.
 
It's the 21st century, move on. What is next? Black French/English/German/Dutch soccer nationals are not national enough?
P.S: I think Mary Pierce's father was an American if my memory doesn't deceive me. Nevertheless, not important.
What's the 21st century have to do with anything?
 

edmondsm

Legend
Even if they could the French fans don't deserve it. They can't even show up on time when there countryman is battling in the semis.
 

every7

Hall of Fame
Would Paris actually go insane? The city doesn't seem to get as caught up in grand slam fever as much as Melbourne, Wimbledon and New York (in that order) do IMO.
 

Mainad

Bionic Poster
Would Paris actually go insane? The city doesn't seem to get as caught up in grand slam fever as much as Melbourne, Wimbledon and New York (in that order) do IMO.
Well, they certainly did when Noah won it back in 1983! :)
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
I believe in that French teen Gasquet -- brings some heat from the backhand wing.
You are celebrating 11 years too late!:eek:

Since his stunning win over Stososov at M-C in '05 there have been not so many times to truly believe in now rusty Ricky.:eek:
 
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