Before I mod my new AG100s today, I decided i needed to weigh them to get a baseline measurement. Both are 4 5/8, two super grap overgrips, and a rubberband dampener at 336 grams. EACH is exactly the same weight to the gram. My other two were 335 and 336. That's a quality margin of 99.93% accuracy aka a quality error of .07% difference. This just makes me want to buy their sticks more and more. Do any other companies have such fantastic quality control standards?
Can any manufacturer match Dunlop's quality control?
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99% of the buying public including yourself do not need to have racquets weight within .000001 gram of each other. No one is going to notice or care except the pro's.
Um, I didn't say I did, but thanks. All I was commenting on was the high quality of their products.
IwishIwasbetter
Rookie
fischer, and maybe yonex. my favorite brand, head, is pretty awful quality control wise, i think wilson is pretty bad too, it would be awesome if every racket was made the exact same, it would make buying them so much more comforting because you would know its playing exactly how its supposed to, but i guess thats asking for too much, even though we pay around $100-$200 for a racket..
stanfordtennis alum
Hall of Fame
yonex and fischer have pretty good QC.. Head's not bad either in my experience
fattsoo
Semi-Pro
It all depends on how popular the brand is. You'll see the newew brand or lesser known brand make really quality product (unless the racquet is specifically made for low end users) because they need to compete for market shares. Once they are well known, they do not need to work that hard or take that extra step in making sure everythin is precise. But what do I know...
Syfo-Dias
Professional
You know, it really bugs me when people say things like this. You don't have to be a pro to care about your racquet specs. Some people are just really sensitive to differences in weight and balance. The last thing you want to do is switch to a racquet that feels totally different in the middle of a match. Luckily I use Yonex though, so it's not a problem for me.
When you pay $150-200 for a cool piece of graphite, it's good to know that they at least tried.
You know, it really bugs me when people say things like this. You don't have to be a pro to care about your racquet specs. Some people are just really sensitive to differences in weight and balance. The last thing you want to do is switch to a racquet that feels totally different in the middle of a match. Luckily I use Yonex though, so it's not a problem for me.
Look where Fischers zero tolerance has gotten them in the market. They were bought out and were hardly a factor in the industry. Wilson and it terrible quality control is by a country mile the leader in tennis racquets sales in the United states. I see all types of players using Wilson: Pro's, Weekend hackers, 5.0' etc etc. My point isn't that Yonex or Fischer don't make good product or even superior in some cases. My point is that they are filling a need that doesn't exist. In Fischers case they were bought out and from what I hear would have stopped making racquets had this not occurred.
I do not work for Wilson and do not play with one. Bad quality control to me would be flawed cosmetics, cracks, chips, frayed grips etc. That would be terrible quality control and Wilson would suffer as a result in the market place. They haven't. all the marketing in the world won't get good players to use your products. And plenty of good players use Wilson. the reason Wilson has money to market is because they sell product because people want it.
And yet, many well known players play or have played Dunlop and they seem to still stick to their principles. If you're trying to make a point here, it helps to actually try.
Syfo-Dias
Professional
No, the reason is due to their marketing. You can sell a turd to the masses if you market it right. The truth is that most people are just ignorant and companies like Wilson take advantage of that. I guarantee you the racquets that their pro players use aren't just off the shelf models. They probably hand pick the ones that are actually on spec and of course many are customized by places like ****. It's pretty common knowledge that Head pro's are the only ones who still get to use Head racquets made in Austria. Hmm, I wonder why that could be? Most people who start using Yonex racquets are amazed at how good the quality and consistency is. I say kudos to Dunlop for doing the same. People will eventually get tired of paying a premium for crap quality. Just look at what happened to GM.
vsbabolat
Talk Tennis Guru
Actually Fischer Sport GmbH only sold off their Tennis Division. The main business of Fischer Sport GmbH is Skis.
hoodjem
G.O.A.T.
Pros play with whatever they can get the most money to contract with. Sometimes they even play with a different frame under their contrct brand's paintjob. It's all about money.
Do you really think Fed cares about Wilson's QC in the racquets that they sell to the masses?
Heck no, all Fed cares about is the QC of the racuets he is going to actually play with, and how much he is going to be paid to play with them.
When I said good players I wasn't talking about the pro's.
Both my AG200s were exactly the same weight and the HM200Gs were all (5, broke two, one was stolen, still have two
) within one gram of each other, 3 identically 1 gram heavier than the other identical 2. That's a run extending rather a few years.
goosala
Hall of Fame
It's so funny that a guy who just gave you proof that his frames are all the same but people on this board still slam his point. I have owned and played with plenty of makes and models but what I can say in my years of playing is that Wilson QC is not very good compared to other makes such as Yonex and Dunlop. Remember the matched pairs that the Pro Staff Tour 90's were offered in? I bet after a while the plants could not guaranteed tolerances and got tired of trying. Whether you play with a Wilson or not you can get annoyed at people who slam your brand but just from speaking from experience that is what I see. I have owned many Wilson frames: Sting, Pro Staff 85, PS 6.1, Tour 90, K90, and KPS88 until recently and none of them were close in spec.
Even though his frames are exactly the same you guys still say Dunlop's quality control is not good. Go figure.
Even though his frames are exactly the same you guys still say Dunlop's quality control is not good. Go figure.
goosala
Hall of Fame
I bought my 3 AG100's from TW and they are all within spec of each other. I made sure they were from the same production run and from the same retailer. I have played with a couple of other AG100's and they felt exactly the same as mine. Dunlop QC is right on along with Fischer and Yonex.
Tecnifibre is great. I have 5 racquets (320 VO2), all but one are the exact same weight (and that other is off by 2g, and that is due to it having a smaller grip and thus using less of my replacement grip leather). If I needed yet another reason to love these racquets, the QC is one.
I have 2 Yonexs and they are 3g apart, so less impressive, but still nice.
My Babs have been highly consistent as well (surprisingly, I was expecting much worse). My APDCs and PSTs have all been spot-on, the PDRs less so.
powerslave
Rookie
Well I bought the Aero100 a week back although I am very happy with the way the stick plays but its finish is not as good as the K90;the area where white meets the blue you can actually feel the layers infact if one would use nails you might peel come off and this is at all the eight positions on the hoop.
The handle bevels are too smooth for my liking as compared to Wilson and perhaps due to which the 43/eight on Dunlop feels like Wilson's 41/4 .
The butt cap is too small as compared to Wilson.
Despite all above issues I love the stick for I am able to literally crush the ball.
The handle bevels are too smooth for my liking as compared to Wilson and perhaps due to which the 43/eight on Dunlop feels like Wilson's 41/4 .
The butt cap is too small as compared to Wilson.
Despite all above issues I love the stick for I am able to literally crush the ball.
You are kidding, aren't you? One guy - hell, even four or five- says his racquets are on spec and you actually think we should take that to mean Dunlop has good quality control?
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