Can anybody (please) compare any new frames to the Head T.I. Radical OS
- Thread starter B-Line
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Going to be hard to find anything close. Really a neglected market. Basically you end up being lighter, small head size or losing extended reach.
Prince 107g/107 would be where I would start. Head Radical MicroGel OS.
104/105 racquets might have a few nice options. Blade 104, Gravity S, Prokennix ki 15.
Prince 107g/107 would be where I would start. Head Radical MicroGel OS.
104/105 racquets might have a few nice options. Blade 104, Gravity S, Prokennix ki 15.
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graycrait
Legend
I have a Prince 107G, new issue Microgel Radical OS and a very minty Ti Rad OS, altogether 6 iterations of the Rad OS. I currently have 18 rackets in the 106/107 head size. In addition all my Rad OS's have TK82S pallets.
My least favorite of the "light" 106/107 OS rackets is the Ti Rad OS. The Prince 107G is much easier to use and the Microgel Rad OS is more comfortable playing than the Ti Rad OS IMHO. I would put the NCode NBlade 106 18x19 27.3" at the top of the light 106/107 list.
The Dunlop CX200 OS keeps popping up in threads and I would like to give that one a swing when I can find one used or get one in a trade.
My least favorite of the "light" 106/107 OS rackets is the Ti Rad OS. The Prince 107G is much easier to use and the Microgel Rad OS is more comfortable playing than the Ti Rad OS IMHO. I would put the NCode NBlade 106 18x19 27.3" at the top of the light 106/107 list.
The Dunlop CX200 OS keeps popping up in threads and I would like to give that one a swing when I can find one used or get one in a trade.
Dartagnan64
G.O.A.T.
I’m a fan of heavier thin beamed flexible OS frames. Basically, players OS. The Phantom 107G is fitting the bill for me right now but I’ve had good results with Blade 104, both SW and non-SW versions.
Really like the previous POG 107 that TW had for sale prior to the version they have up now. It’s a bit cumbersome at times, but nothing redirects pace better.
Really like the previous POG 107 that TW had for sale prior to the version they have up now. It’s a bit cumbersome at times, but nothing redirects pace better.
ZanderGoga
Semi-Pro
Can you compare it? Or are you just mentioning that it exists?
Seems to be a real lack of info and feedback on this one, outside of marketing vids.
Would love to hear a report from a serious player who'd given it a serious look, and maybe specced it up a bit.
Dartagnan64
G.O.A.T.
I've seen comments suggesting its a little low powered and might respond to a bit more weight. I've not tried it personally.
B-Line
Rookie
Thanks....I might look out for an OS microgell frame on ****.
graycrait
Legend
One of my friends who finally wore out his iRad's switched over to the MG and has not looked back.
Deki
Rookie
No, I haven’t tried it. But there is no a lot players OS frames on the market. But Dunlop seems to me as good alternative. I’m a more fan of 95 sqin frames.
Orion
Semi-Pro
I would say give the Gravity Pro a try. Even though not OS and can tend to feel a bit muted with some string setups, it's worth a try. Grew up on the Radical OS frames and still miss the OS power and flex. Recently played a few matches with a POG and despite the heft muscle memory with an OS frame was still there. I swear timing and consistency on backhand was better. I used to lead head on Radical's. Played with To during a hitting session last fall, rotating out with Gravity Pro. I found the GP whippier and easier to.control, but the Ti hit a heavier ball and putaways we're easier to crush. The Ti is strung with Alu and I play the GP with VS/Triad in the high 40's. I was getting a heavier ball when I used to play poly in the GP, but need the comfort of VS and a multi due to wrist issues. I immediately feel it in my wrist when poly dies. The softer setup is worth the lack of pain.
Curious about the Phantom 107 but don't want to taint my POG renaissance. Hope my .02 cents on the GP comparo gives you something to chew on.
Curious about the Phantom 107 but don't want to taint my POG renaissance. Hope my .02 cents on the GP comparo gives you something to chew on.
ChanterRacquet
Professional
My wife played through her high school and college career with Ti.Radical OS + next 14 years. She’s basically a 5 ft tall, blonde Agassi. When I started getting serious a couple years ago she would help me determine what was crap and what wasn’t. In that time of demoing she decided the Blade 104 v7 is the only racquet that felt better than her Ti.Radicals and that’s all she plays now.
If you compare specs, the Ti.Radicals have a RA of 60 = so does the Blade 104 v7. The blade is a more open string pattern at 16x19, the center mains are a little wider, but the outer mains on the blade fall inside the outer mains of the Rad, with a more even spacing across the board on the blade. I’d say the blade is a little easier swing than the Rad. I measured the swingweight of the blade at 121; haven’t done the rad but old TW listing puts it at 326 which feels about right.
“Blade has a little more drive so volleys and serves are more powerful, otherwise very similar with top spin potential preserved.”
If you compare specs, the Ti.Radicals have a RA of 60 = so does the Blade 104 v7. The blade is a more open string pattern at 16x19, the center mains are a little wider, but the outer mains on the blade fall inside the outer mains of the Rad, with a more even spacing across the board on the blade. I’d say the blade is a little easier swing than the Rad. I measured the swingweight of the blade at 121; haven’t done the rad but old TW listing puts it at 326 which feels about right.
“Blade has a little more drive so volleys and serves are more powerful, otherwise very similar with top spin potential preserved.”
So basically Early Agassi. Other than his two handed backhand I really liked his overall play-style. Nothing wrong with his backhand other than I prefer one handed. Really how much he attacked the ball and had games where he could just place the ball anywhere. Gravity S is close to the blade 104. I can see many players liking the Blade 104. Blade line is likely the line I would most likely use if I played with wilson. Rf97 if i was younger maybe...
Irvin
Talk Tennis Guru
You can still buy them new for under $100 string.
Alexh22
Professional
To answer your q. I tried a few prince 107 LB and newer radicals but nothing played similar.
I really liked my to radical OS and k blade 104 ....ten years ago. I believe the market is still there today but both companies ruined their lines. Look at the so many lines and paint jobs they did, the focus is on how to deceive consumers vs producing actual good racquets to help us play better. I fell for the newer so called technologies and Should have kept both of them.
I really liked my to radical OS and k blade 104 ....ten years ago. I believe the market is still there today but both companies ruined their lines. Look at the so many lines and paint jobs they did, the focus is on how to deceive consumers vs producing actual good racquets to help us play better. I fell for the newer so called technologies and Should have kept both of them.
ChanterRacquet
Professional
FWIW, I recently bought v5 and v6 Blade 104 to see if their 18x19 brought some familiarity to the 18x19 Ti.Radical OS over the 16x19 104 blade v7.
quick summary:
v5 SW = 310, RA 59ish
v6 SW = 315, RA 66ish
v7 SW = 321, RA 60ish
Ti.Rad OS SW = 326, RA 60ish
So wife hated the v6. Too much raw power, little to no pocket.
Wife really liked the v5 today BUT I noticed just not as much spinning drive. The 18x19 seemed to flatten things out a bit forcing her to pull back. Not pull back much, but it wasn’t quite her normal power game; and it was super windy (when is it not on the treeless plains of NW Texas?) so it could just be that. But we play in the wind a lot...
The open 16x19 104 really does seem to allow more power in the stroke to get it spinning and down into the court.
So...I may go a step further than my most recent post and explicitly say it would seem the 104 v7 blade may be a better racquet than the Ti. Rad OS. As long as you’re looking for a high feel, high spin potential player’s racquet.
quick summary:
v5 SW = 310, RA 59ish
v6 SW = 315, RA 66ish
v7 SW = 321, RA 60ish
Ti.Rad OS SW = 326, RA 60ish
So wife hated the v6. Too much raw power, little to no pocket.
Wife really liked the v5 today BUT I noticed just not as much spinning drive. The 18x19 seemed to flatten things out a bit forcing her to pull back. Not pull back much, but it wasn’t quite her normal power game; and it was super windy (when is it not on the treeless plains of NW Texas?) so it could just be that. But we play in the wind a lot...
The open 16x19 104 really does seem to allow more power in the stroke to get it spinning and down into the court.
So...I may go a step further than my most recent post and explicitly say it would seem the 104 v7 blade may be a better racquet than the Ti. Rad OS. As long as you’re looking for a high feel, high spin potential player’s racquet.
ext2hander
Rookie
A RARE OVERSIZE CONTROL TENNIS RACKET: DUNLOP CX 200 OS+ (Tennis Spin)
Video compares specs with Blade 104
Nice comfy RA 61 and thin 21.5 mm beam, and 11 oz strung.
Standard 27 inch length better for quick volleys at net than 27.5" for Blade 104
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alpenglo
23 hours ago
The Radical OS was probably no more than a 104 as Head were measuring head size on the outside of the frame back then.
Video compares specs with Blade 104
Nice comfy RA 61 and thin 21.5 mm beam, and 11 oz strung.
Standard 27 inch length better for quick volleys at net than 27.5" for Blade 104
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alpenglo
23 hours ago
The Radical OS was probably no more than a 104 as Head were measuring head size on the outside of the frame back then.
ChanterRacquet
Professional
That video is wrong. He calls it a Serena 104. Nope! Not with a 313 swingweight it’s not. Her’s are 330+. Her’s aren’t RA 60 either, hence why they still have countervail in her new 102 when the rest of the blade line dropped it.
www.tennis-warehouse.com
What that is a regular 104 v6 with an RA of 66.
The only 104 with a quoted RA of 60 is the v7.
I’m not trying to take away from the Dunlop, but Mr. Tennis Spin is confused.
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What that is a regular 104 v6 with an RA of 66.
The only 104 with a quoted RA of 60 is the v7.
I’m not trying to take away from the Dunlop, but Mr. Tennis Spin is confused.
ext2hander
Rookie
I believe TennisSpin corrected his err, and said the one he measured was the Blade 104That video is wrong. He calls it a Serena 104. Nope! Not with a 313 swingweight it’s not. Her’s are 330+. Her’s aren’t RA 60 either, hence why they still have countervail in her new 102 when the rest of the blade line dropped it.
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What that is a regular 104 v6 with an RA of 66.
The only 104 with a quoted RA of 60 is the v7.
I’m not trying to take away from the Dunlop, but Mr. Tennis Spin is confused.
ChanterRacquet
Professional
Where? Doesn’t matter what he calls it when what he says about it is still wrong. Those blade specs don’t exist in a single racquet.
He’s holding a 27.5” 18x19 RA 66 v6 with v7 specs mixed in 27.5” 16x19 RA 60.
Why he just doesn’t compare it to a straight up v7, I dunno. At least they’d have the same number mains and RA!
I don’t think he’s purposefully misleading anyone, but I don’t see anywhere he’s corrected his misinformation since posting the video.
ChanterRacquet
Professional
In that case you may not be looking for an updated Ti.Rad OS. The graphene Radicals are a new breed. You might use RacquetFinder to search for an old racquet you like (touch rad pro?), click “similar racquets” with the current models only box checked, and then fiddle with the spec ranges (if need be) to see what pops up.
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The heaviest current OS player’s racquet is the Phantom 107G at 11.4 oz.
B-Line
Rookie
That head size is perfect for doubles..........agree with your comments about new Radicals. There all about power and feel stiff....even with a soft poly at 50lb
I've tried 1000s$ trying to switch from I.rad over that 10+ years. OS sticks are just trampolines and i struggle at the net with sub100 frames. After shoulder surgery last year I decided to buy the 104v7 since it was a softer frame. It needs mass in the hoop. A lot. Id gone to soft multis in the i.rad before surgery. Doesnt really work with this soft frame even at 60lbs. Will move to a poly next. Ive added tape on the handle and the throat. That has helped some. Still needs lead in the hoop bit that will have to wait as my shoulder strengthens. The 104v7 does have a higher launch angle. BH chips dont bite like the i.rad. More spin is available on serves and FH. Hoop is too light to stick volleys.
