Can Djokovic complete the (probable) Zed/Med double?

RaulRamirez

Legend
At the USO, Novak got past Zed in a tough semi, but was either too spent, too overburdened with the weight of history, or simply outplayed by Med in the final.

What do you envision in Torino (no poll):
A. Stopped by Zverev
B. Stopped by Medvedev
C. A 6th ATP Finals trophy
D. A Ruud awakening. ????
 
I don't think so. Zed is a GOAT in jinxing your opponent's chances in the final if you play him in the semi.
Yeah Zverev has proven either directly or indirectly he can affect his opponents of winning the event. Like against Djokovic in us open semi pushing him to limit and sapping his energy. He beat Djoko in olympics semi and also pushed tsitsipas at french semi to derail him a bit. Yeah it certainly a challenge to beat him in a semi and then go on and win the event especially when Meddy is the likely final opponent. It’s as tough as it gets for Novak but the form he’s currently in gives me hope he can pull it off.
 

Saula

Rookie
Wont be easy for Novak , has a much tougher semi and plays late , Medvedev will be fresher like he was in the USO final so if Novak wants to beat Medvedev for his sake he better beat Zverev in 2 sets .
 

ttwreader

Hall of Fame
No, it's just you people got fooled by Djokovic choking at Olympics and USO and thought they stepped up their levels somehow

It's back to regular programing folks
At least they are a major winner and an Olympic gold winner.
 

Poisoned Slice

Bionic Poster
Yeah

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Nicklo22

Rookie
Based on the form , he will most likely beat them back to back . Z is not playing well ( he looks tired to be honest) , give him some pressure moments he will break down . Med is also scratchy , went three sets in all matches . So there is no guarantee. He will win atp finals and he will sweep 2 slams Atleast next year and if no Rafa he will get that French open too . What he is doing at 34 is incredible.
 

ND-13

Legend
Easy ones here. Zed and Med are better than the tour but still glorified mugs and not true rivals to Djokovic
 

Adman

Rookie
It's been a while since we really saw an in-form Djokovic and when he's in-form he's in demolition mode. Expect an easy one over Zverev and a harder one against Ruud
 
Rome 2017 beat Thiem 6-1, 6-0, lost to Zverev next round
WTF 2018 beat Anderson 6-3, 6-2, lost to Zverev next round
Olympics 2021 beat Nishikori 6-2 6-0, lost to Zverev next round
Yep, he is toast today against the big serving robot. :(
 

ScentOfDefeat

G.O.A.T.
If these two remain consistent for years to come, I don't see Djokovic winning another hardcourt Slam.
He needs to go all in at Wimbledon if he wants to secure #21.
 
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DjokoLand

Hall of Fame
If these two remain consistent for years to come, I don't see Djokovic winning another hardcourt Slam.
He needs to go all in at Wimbledon if he wants to secure #21.
You surely don’t mean that considering he has won 9 AO’s and trashed Med there last year. This Med on HC is definitely at Djokovic level these days but still can’t say this unless he beats Djokovic there
 

ScentOfDefeat

G.O.A.T.
You surely don’t mean that considering he has won 9 AO’s and trashed Med there last year. This Med on HC is definitely at Djokovic level these days but still can’t say this unless he beats Djokovic there

If he has to go through both of them, I think his chances are very slim.
His window for #21 is much narrower than one might imagine.
 
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DjokoLand

Hall of Fame
If he has to go through both of them, I think his chances are very slim.
His window for #21 is much narrower than one might imagine.
Yes it’s getting harder and the USO proved that Zed and Especially Med are there near him but still that is the USO and the AO is different. I’ll believe it when I see it
 

DjokoLand

Hall of Fame
Lol he did that AO 2021

The choking at USO has really fooled people

See you tomorrow night
Not even the choking but people saying the USO will be a indicator what will happen at the AO are stupid. Djokovic has always had bad loses late at USO but then walked the AO. They are night and day and while being HC they might aswell be different surfaces
 

mike danny

Bionic Poster
If these two remain consistent for years to come, I don't see Djokovic winning another hardcourt Slam.
He needs to go all in at Wimbledon if he wants to secure #21.
Please, if Djokovic plating well, he is better than both at the AO.

At the USO it's harder due to its placement in the year more thsn anything else.
 

ScentOfDefeat

G.O.A.T.
I think people assume Zverev and especially Medvedev aren't progressing with every tournament they play.
Medvedev is progressing at a higher rate than Djokovic, and just because Djokovic won 9 times in Australia doesn't mean he'll keep winning forever.
In fact, he might not even play there in January because of Covid restrictions.
 
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NAS

Hall of Fame
Lol he did that AO 2021

The choking at USO has really fooled people

See you tomorrow night
No he beat Zverev in qf, he was quite vulnerable for semi,he had long matches from second round to qf, Med meeting in semi could have been ugly for Novak.
But a new comer Aslan( he was good but occasion got to him) and two days rest allowed him to get to normal.
I am not saying he can't defeat both in succession but need to be fresh for the later one.
So he need to take down Zverev fast.
 
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Deleted member 770948

Guest
No, Djokovic isn't good enough, never has been good enough to consistently beat the prime (or soon-to-be prime) versions of Zverev/Medvedev.
Zverev isn't prime yet, but he'll become harder and harder to beat.
Medvedev will rarely lose to Djokovic from now on.
 

thrust

Legend
No, Djokovic isn't good enough, never has been good enough to consistently beat the prime (or soon-to-be prime) versions of Zverev/Medvedev.
Zverev isn't prime yet, but he'll become harder and harder to beat.
Medvedev will rarely lose to Djokovic from now on.
From now on? Well, in that Novak is now 34, that probably is true. Somehow though Novak was able to keep up with peak Roger and Rafa, therefore, I think peak Novak could hold his own against peak Zev/Med
 

NAS

Hall of Fame
Nobody right now, unless you are in peak form or Med and Zverev in bad form is beating them back to back on fast hc.
 

DjokoLand

Hall of Fame
I wonder what it is about Medvedev's game in recent times that causes Zverev more problems than Djokovic's does?
Med can move and defend like Djokovic and with his serve Zverev can’t really make any mistakes in his service games. Their match was close in RR but even then Zverev didn’t break Med
 
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