Can Djokovic win FO this year ?

FO doesn't exist anymore. From now on this indoor tournament is called the Djokovic Open. He not only can, he is pretty much a lock to win it now. The organizers are his fans and did everything to make sure he wins it. Roof, schedule, new balls, new court, everything is perfect for him now.

But how exactly will it make him the GOAT? Just because he is going to win a tournament where the organizers already did everything to help him win it? Sorry, no.
 

Nadal_Django

Hall of Fame
I definitely think Djokovic can, i'd give him great odds at this French Open. Don't think Thiem could do it but definitely think Djokovic has what it takes.
If the bounce is lower than the previous years due to the roof and the new balls I would give him around 30-35 % chances of winning the title.
 

zagor

Bionic Poster
FO doesn't exist anymore. From now on this indoor tournament is called the Djokovic Open. He not only can, he is pretty much a lock to win it now. The organizers are his fans and did everything to make sure he wins it. Roof, schedule, new balls, new court, everything is perfect for him now.

But how exactly will it make him the GOAT? Just because he is going to win a tournament where the organizers already did everything to help him win it? Sorry, no.
Think Nadal is more vulnerable in rainy conditions on clay than indoor.

But really, it's the Nadal at the FO. Roof, different balls, etc. etc. you still gotta bet on him to win.
 

pedro94

Rookie
Clay courts should never have roofs. MC and Rome don't have. Last year they already changed the (RG) surface to a fast, low bouncing court to help Djokovic win it. Didn't work. So now they build a roof.
FO doesn't exist anymore. From now on this indoor tournament is called the Djokovic Open. He not only can, he is pretty much a lock to win it now. The organizers are his fans and did everything to make sure he wins it. Roof, schedule, new balls, new court, everything is perfect for him now.

But how exactly will it make him the GOAT? Just because he is going to win a tournament where the organizers already did everything to help him win it? Sorry, no.
Think Nadal is more vulnerable in rainy conditions on clay than indoor.

But really, it's the Nadal at the FO. Roof, different balls, etc. etc. you still gotta bet on him to win.
@zagor, don't feed the troll..
 

Xavier G

Professional
Novak will probably be there or thereabouts. Yes, he can possibly win it. A Nadal who's playing well is favorite though. Thiem can be in the mix as well. A lot can also depend on the draw and the conditions etc.
 

itrium84

Semi-Pro
1. Yes, he can win RG2020

2. He will most probably not win

3. Winning wouldn't make him the GOAT

4. He would become greater than Nadal

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RaulRamirez

Hall of Fame
A lot will be determined as to whether Thiem ends up in Rafa's or Novak's half of the draw. Of course, that's not the whole story, but it will play a large role.
Right now until proven otherwise, Rafa is the favorite, and I'd put Thiem slightly ahead of Novak as the second choice. Still, 3 months of other tourneys will precede this, so...
 

TennisFan3

Legend
Not so sure, still think it's Nadal's title to lose. Depends in which half Thiem lands as well.
I think the bolded is the key.
If Thiem lands in Novak's half - give Nadal the trophy already. Novak is not beating Thiem/Nadal back to back.
However, if Thiem lands in Nadal's half - things could be a lot more interesting. Thiem could exhaust Rafa for 5 sets, and Novak in the final could deliver the Coup de grace and win the title.
 

TennisFan3

Legend
If Djokovic wins FO he’s clearly GOAT
I don't know about GOAT.
But if Novak wins F.O - he will CLEARLY be better than Federer/Nadal and be the best of this era. He would have 2 career grand slams, which Fedal haven't been able to achieve.
Nadal has come close at the A.O, but no cigar.
 

Indigo

Semi-Pro
If Thiem is in Rafa half, Novak wins, if it is the opposite, Rafa wins. So, if tennis mafia wants Novak as the champion and to save Federer's record for the time being, mafia will put Thiem in Rafa's half of the draw.
 
No with only 18 Slams when both of his biggest rivals would still have more Majors than him.

I don't know why are Novak fans so impatient. If Djokovic is destinied to end up as the clear GOAT, he will get the Slam record.
The slam record will be broken by Nadal first
 

CYGS

Hall of Fame
No with only 18 Slams when both of his biggest rivals would still have more Majors than him.

I don't know why are Novak fans so impatient. If Djokovic is destinied to end up as the clear GOAT, he will get the Slam record.
DCGS+NCYGS is hard to beat.
 

Sport

Legend
1. Yes, he can win RG2020

2. He will most probably not win

3. Winning wouldn't make him the GOAT

4. He would become greater than Nadal

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Don't you get tired of making anti-Nadal comments? Almost all your posts are dissing Nadal in one way or another. Point 4. He wouldn't become greater than Nadal. Not with less Slams. 19 > 18.
 
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Sport

Legend
If Thiem is in Rafa half, Novak wins, if it is the opposite, Rafa wins. So, if tennis mafia wants Novak as the champion and to save Federer's record for the time being, mafia will put Thiem in Rafa's half of the draw.
No, unless Thiem defeats Rafa. Rafa has no problems defeating Thiem and Djokovic back to back at RG. Only Thiem can defeat Nadal in a RG final.
 
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BlueB

Legend
Nole needs Thiem and Rafa to absolutely murder each other in the semis, for him to finish off the last man standing. And of course, hoping that he doesn't run into Stan in Animal mode.
 

Indigo

Semi-Pro
Thiem would tire Rafa in semis considerably. We must be aware that even Raphael will slow down with years. And then Novak will come to feast on the remains of the Spaniard in the finals. With regards to Stanimal, if he is also in Rafa's half with Thiem, and Rafa defeats both Thiem and Stanimal on the way to finals and then defeats Novak in the finals, that would be one of the greatest Rafa's victories at RG considering his age. If Stan the Man is in Novak's half, probably blood lust mode will be activated and that is game over for Novak before the semis. If somehow Novak manages to semis and defeats Thiems, again it is end for Novak in the finals.
 

Sport

Legend
Thiem would tire Rafa in semis considerably. We must be aware that even Raphael will slow down with years. And then Novak will come to feast on the remains of the Spaniard in the finals. With regards to Stanimal, if he is also in Rafa's half with Thiem, and Rafa defeats both Thiem and Stanimal on the way to finals and then defeats Novak in the finals, that would be one of the greatest Rafa's victories at RG considering his age. If Stan the Man is in Novak's half, probably blood lust mode will be activated and that is game over for Novak before the semis. If somehow Novak manages to semis and defeats Thiems, again it is end for Novak in the finals.
Nadal won't get tired just for playing one 5 sets match against Thiem (assuming the semifinal goes to 5 sets rather than 4 or 3). I guarantee you that Thiem being in Nadal's half means nothing for the final. Djokovic has no realistic chance to defeat Nadal in a RG final, just like Rafa has no realistic chance to defeat Djokovic in an AO final. If Djokovic had to beat in 5 sets Thiem in the AO SF, he would still defeat a fresh Nadal in the AO final. Analogously, even if Nadal plays a 5 sets SF with Thiem, he will still defeat Djokovic in the RG final.
 

itrium84

Semi-Pro
Don't you get tired of making anti-Nadal comments? Almost all your posts are dissing Nadal in one way or another. Point 4. He wouldn't become greater than Nadal. Not with less Slams. 19 > 18.
Nadal is my second favourite of big3. Being more or less ATG has nothing to do with "anti" or "pro". I am in no position to diss Nadal, that guy achieved 1000x more in life than I did.
Proclaiming Novak greater (in potential of RG2020 win) doesn't make Nadal less great, it just makes Novak greater.

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Sport

Legend
Nadal is my second favourite of big3. Being more or less ATG has nothing to do with "anti" or "pro". I am in no position to diss Nadal, that guy achieved 1000x more in life than I did.
Proclaiming Novak greater (in potential of RG2020 win) doesn't make Nadal less great, it just makes Novak greater.

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That is completely false. You even have Youtube accounts with messages critizicing Nadal and putting him as some kind of loser compared to Djokovic and Federer. So he is actually the one you like the least of the Big 3. And no, Novak wouldn't be greater than Nadal with less Slams.
 

itrium84

Semi-Pro
That is completely false. You even have Youtube accounts with messages critizicing Nadal and putting him as some kind of loser compared to Djokovic and Federer. So he is actually the one you like the least of the Big 3. And no, Novak wouldn't be greater than Nadal with less Slams.
I guess you mixed me up with someone else, I don't have Youtube accounts or YT comments about tennis players. :)


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Of course he can but it isn't likely. His odds are probably roughly on par to Federer's of winning Wimbledon. Maybe less since Federer might still be the 2nd favorite for Wimbledon while Djokovic is for sure only 3rd favorite for Roland Garros.
 
Nadal won't get tired just for playing one 5 sets match against Thiem (assuming the semifinal goes to 5 sets rather than 4 or 3). I guarantee you that Thiem being in Nadal's half means nothing for the final. Djokovic has no realistic chance to defeat Nadal in a RG final, just like Rafa has no realistic chance to defeat Djokovic in an AO final. If Djokovic had to beat in 5 sets Thiem in the AO SF, he would still defeat a fresh Nadal in the AO final. Analogously, even if Nadal plays a 5 sets SF with Thiem, he will still defeat Djokovic in the RG final.
Let’s say Nadal defeats Thiem 16-14 in a 5th set after 6 hours in the SF, while Djokovic straight sets Goffin in the SF. I’d say Novak’s chances would be pretty solid.
 

DSH

Legend
Nobody remembers that the worst version of Zverev was serving to win the first set against the Serbian in the quarterfinals of RG and then came his mental breakdown, so characteristic of the German.
In short, Djokovic is beatable on clay and especially at the French Open. He will lose between the quarterfinals or the semifinals this edition aswell.
 
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