can grip size affect spin

Elwood

Rookie
Can changing my grip SIZE affect spin production.
For example 4 1/2 to a 4 5/8 or down to a 4 3/8.
 

Bud

Bionic Poster
Some people believe that smaller grips increase spin potential... I however, do not believe it.
 

Winners or Errors

Hall of Fame
I have found that it is a double-edged sword. I do tend to hit with more spin with smaller grips. Of course, I also tend to get quite wristy, and then all I can do it hit with spin. I'd rather just play the correct grip size. My days of experimenting with smaller grips are done.
 

Bud

Bionic Poster
I have found that it is a double-edged sword. I do tend to hit with more spin with smaller grips. Of course, I also tend to get quite wristy, and then all I can do it hit with spin. I'd rather just play the correct grip size. My days of experimenting with smaller grips are done.
Any wrist/elbow issues... pain... injury... TE... from said experimentation?
 

gymrat76

Banned
Can changing my grip SIZE affect spin production.
For example 4 1/2 to a 4 5/8 or down to a 4 3/8.
Very good question, imo. SO MANY, COUNTLESS pros are playing with smaller grips than their original sizes these days. Take it from no1 Nadal (1/4 grip) to a friend of mine at 900s who plays with 4 1/2 with no replacement grip but just a tournagrip over pallet. He is 6 3", says it makes him feel the racq. more and gets him a more nimble play. Kinda like the low pro tires on a mod car :)
And so many gazillions of pure drive type spin players go for smaller grips these days. Me, I cant play w/ smaller grips, either. It has to be just right.

And serve and volley players, which was a way more popular way of playing only 5-6yrs ago, go for as large grips as they can go. As far as I remember from reading, Sampras had a larger than 4 5/8 grip..i may be wrong...But large grip size helps at stable volleys, perhaps...
 

ronalditop

Hall of Fame
YES. Gripsize does affect spin production. Thats why so many pros are using small grips, because of the extra spin and also to be able to swing such heavy racquets easier. Im use a heavy racquet, and if i would try to play using my original gripsize, it would be imposible to swing the racquet as fast i as would want to. So i use smaller grips and i can swing it much easier and i get a lot more of spin. I have played for a grip that was too big for me for a short time, i was just experimenting, and it gave me elbow pain since it was very hard to swing the racquet fast enough so i tend to hit late. Now im very comfortable with my current small grip.
 

Bud

Bionic Poster
YES. Gripsize does affect spin production. Thats why so many pros are using small grips, because of the extra spin and also to be able to swing such heavy racquets easier. Im use a heavy racquet, and if i would try to play using my original gripsize, it would be imposible to swing the racquet as fast i as would want to. So i use smaller grips and i can swing it much easier and i get a lot more of spin. I have played for a grip that was too big for me for a short time, i was just experimenting, and it gave me elbow pain since it was very hard to swing the racquet fast enough so i tend to hit late. Now im very comfortable with my current small grip.
Perhaps, you just needed a smaller grip and the grip you're currently using is now the correct grip for your hand... :confused:
 

ReopeningWed

Professional
YES. Gripsize does affect spin production. Thats why so many pros are using small grips, because of the extra spin and also to be able to swing such heavy racquets easier. Im use a heavy racquet, and if i would try to play using my original gripsize, it would be imposible to swing the racquet as fast i as would want to. So i use smaller grips and i can swing it much easier and i get a lot more of spin. I have played for a grip that was too big for me for a short time, i was just experimenting, and it gave me elbow pain since it was very hard to swing the racquet fast enough so i tend to hit late. Now im very comfortable with my current small grip.
MG Prestige is NOT heavy. Check the Heavy Racket lovers thread if you want to see what the rest of us are playing with.
 

Winners or Errors

Hall of Fame
Any wrist/elbow issues... pain... injury... TE... from said experimentation?
Not really Bud, but I only played an occasional set or hitting session with the racquet with the L2 grip size, and it's a Prince NXG Mid, so it's pretty darned flexible. My preferred and I believe proper grip size is L5. I was wristier on the forehand. Probably no injury issues because the only stroke it seemed to affect was the forehand.

The other important thing to note with the L2 is that it also made the racquet feel quite unstable on mishits, because it easily twisted in my hand. Fairly certain it was the grip size and not the racquet.
 

mawashi

Hall of Fame
It's all personal preference really. Lottsa folks say they get more spin as they can whip into the shot better while guys like myself don't think it is a real advantage cus a smaller grip affects my feel in other areas so I just use whatever is most comfortable.

mawashi
 

mental midget

Hall of Fame
Not really Bud, but I only played an occasional set or hitting session with the racquet with the L2 grip size, and it's a Prince NXG Mid, so it's pretty darned flexible. My preferred and I believe proper grip size is L5. I was wristier on the forehand. Probably no injury issues because the only stroke it seemed to affect was the forehand.

The other important thing to note with the L2 is that it also made the racquet feel quite unstable on mishits, because it easily twisted in my hand. Fairly certain it was the grip size and not the racquet.
there you go-

simple answer is yes. wrist can get more travel with a smaller grip. hold a coffee can in one hand and a pencil in the other--which can you maneuver more easily?

however stability is a definite trade-off. smaller grip is not ideal for shots that require a firmer hold on the racket, ie. volleys and slices. serves fall somewhere in the middle.

it comes down to a style of play question--nadal does quite well with his. sampras got along fine with a larger grip, more guided racket movement.

for a severe topspin baseliner, i'd say the benefits of a smaller grip are worthwhile. for a player that hopes to rely on an attacking game, racket stability is a major issue. a 'standard' grip sizing is probably appropriate.
 

nickarnold2000

Hall of Fame
Then What are the Disadvantages of Bigger grip size ???
Less wrist snap on the serve and less racket head speed on topspin groundies. On the other hand, you've got to be careful not to go too small gripwise because then volleys and slices won't be stable, IMO. My grip size has naturally gotten smaller over time because each time I replace the overgrip it takes a small amount of the original leather undergrip with it!
 

v205

Semi-Pro
From the practicality side.. if you are in between sizes, go with the smaller one so you can build it up easier.

But I think for the modern game, it's better to pick the smaller size if you are in between sizes anyway.
 
i've read Sampras' autobiograpy, and he's quoted as saying he used a grip size half way between 4 5/8 and 4 3/4.

also Grigor Dimitrov plays with Grip 5, maybe switching to Grip 6 next year (read this in the Pro's Racket Section on this forum).

so i beleive plays with more classical stroke mechanics are more suited to larger grip sizes

also with a smaller grip, (due to personal experience) i beleive under pressure on the forehand, youre prone to slip more round (ie more western wise)
 

Fedace

Banned
Less wrist snap on the serve and less racket head speed on topspin groundies. On the other hand, you've got to be careful not to go too small gripwise because then volleys and slices won't be stable, IMO. My grip size has naturally gotten smaller over time because each time I replace the overgrip it takes a small amount of the original leather undergrip with it!
It is really annoying with these synthetic cushion replacement grips. They get smaller and smaller over time cause the cushion underneath gets thinner and thinner.:???:
 

Fedace

Banned
i've read Sampras' autobiograpy, and he's quoted as saying he used a grip size half way between 4 5/8 and 4 3/4.

also Grigor Dimitrov plays with Grip 5, maybe switching to Grip 6 next year (read this in the Pro's Racket Section on this forum).

so i beleive plays with more classical stroke mechanics are more suited to larger grip sizes

also with a smaller grip, (due to personal experience) i beleive under pressure on the forehand, youre prone to slip more round (ie more western wise)
Is Grigor like 7 feet tall ? :confused:
 

gymrat76

Banned
So, to summarize it.
smaller grips:
- better top spin fh
- second kick serve
- perhaps better 2hbh

correct size grips:
- flat shots in general
- firmer bh slice and volley
- better first (flat) serve
 
so you guys are saying
that if your a 4 and 1/2
then you should go down to 4 and 3/8
hey i want to experiment with this
i was looking a a tennis racket web site that offered the dunlop 4d 200 in a 16 x 19 string pattern and that racket looks so sick
i liked the original dunlop but it just didnt produce spin
if i buy it with the grip 4 and 3/8 i will produce a lot of spin
nice ill try it out but if i dont like it
is there a way for me to increase the grip to it back to 4 and 1/2
 

Fedace

Banned
So, to summarize it.
smaller grips:
- better top spin fh
- second kick serve
- perhaps better 2hbh

correct size grips:
- flat shots in general
- firmer bh slice and volley
- better first (flat) serve
You forgot the Bigger grips ???:confused:
 

Fed Kennedy

Legend
So, to summarize it.
smaller grips:
- better top spin fh
- second kick serve
- perhaps better 2hbh

correct size grips:
- flat shots in general
- firmer bh slice and volley
- better first (flat) serve
by measurement my grip size is 4 5/8 but I have been recently playing with a 4 3/8. I find everything said above to be accurate. It is also easier to switch grips with the smaller size. Yes my slice grip feels a slightly more unstable but it is worth it for the increased pace/confidence on fh and second serves.
 

Fedace

Banned
^^This is really odd. then why do i feel more confident on the forehand with the bigger grip size. I am just the opposite of what you say.???
 

mawashi

Hall of Fame
^^This is really odd. then why do i feel more confident on the forehand with the bigger grip size. I am just the opposite of what you say.???
Dude, let's face it, you're opposite to a lot of pp out there :grin:!

Just play with whatever feels better for you LOL!

mawashi
 
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