Can Murray beat Federer one last time before retirement?

King No1e

Hall of Fame
#1
It just sucks so much that for all the work Murray put into owning the Federer machine in their prime, that he retires with a losing H2H. Just once, I hope to see them meet again, for Andy to get the last laugh in the epic rivalry, he deserves it for achieving the impossible: thoroughly owning the Maestro at his peak.
 
#2
Maybe they will face each other at Wimbledon in a very early round with Fed crushing him in the final match of Murray's professional career. I could see such a match being rigged - that he'd get a sending off against either Fred, Ralph or Joe.

Get destroyed, shed some tears, and get a terrific sending off from a predominantly English crowd. Then hopefully coach Nick Kyrgios and teach him how to return a tennis ball.
 

King No1e

Hall of Fame
#4
Maybe they will face each other at Wimbledon in a very early round with Fed crushing him in the final match of Murray's professional career. I could see such a match being rigged - that he'd get a sending off against either Fred, Ralph or Joe.

Get destroyed, shed some tears, and get a terrific sending off from a predominantly English crowd.
I don't want to get conspiratorial, but the odds of that Nadal-Ferrer match at USO were extremely low. I'd still assume luck, but even if it were done intentionally, I wouldn't even be mad. Same if the organizers intentionally put Murray against a former rival for that last match. They probably won't, but even if they do I can't be mad.
 
#5
Murray owned the maestro in BO3 when the maestro could care very little about it and hyper focussed on majors. Don't reach too much into those.

What is bad for Murray is as 2010 progressed , he was the one in upswing and not Djokovic . If he had developed weapons , he should have been the one with double digit majors, not Djokovic
 
#6
I don't want to get conspiratorial, but the odds of that Nadal-Ferrer match at USO were extremely low. I'd still assume luck, but even if it were done intentionally, I wouldn't even be mad. Same if the organizers intentionally put Murray against a former rival for that last match. They probably won't, but even if they do I can't be mad.

Yeah I'm half-expecting it to happen. Rigging in sports is a favourite hobby of the sporting establishments but it's not chronic and predictable enough to invest money into. So I'll stick with the old adage of "it would not surprise me."
 

Towny

Professional
#8
I really doubt Murray will ever beat Federer again. It's sad to see him in the form he's in. However, while leading the H2H for much of their rivalry was impressive, Murray never 'thoroughly owned' Federer at his peak.
 

King No1e

Hall of Fame
#9
Murray owned the maestro in BO3 when the maestro could care very little about it and hyper focussed on majors. Don't reach too much into those.

What is bad for Murray is as 2010 progressed , he was the one in upswing and not Djokovic . If he had developed weapons , he should have been the one with double digit majors, not Djokovic
I don't want to be a dick now that he's retiring, but come on. Djokovic is a different class of player than Murray: 25-11 H2H and 7-2 in Slams. Most one sided rivalry in the big 4. There was no way it could've ended another way. Murray didn't have the aggression to be a world beater, Djokovic had the whole package.
 
#13
Murray owned the maestro in BO3 when the maestro could care very little about it and hyper focussed on majors. Don't reach too much into those.

What is bad for Murray is as 2010 progressed , he was the one in upswing and not Djokovic . If he had developed weapons , he should have been the one with double digit majors, not Djokovic
Nondisinterested, nonsick, not injured maestro is still undefeated on the Tour. It's a common knowledge. Lol
 
#15
It just sucks so much that for all the work Murray put into owning the Federer machine in their prime, that he retires with a losing H2H. Just once, I hope to see them meet again, for Andy to get the last laugh in the epic rivalry, he deserves it for achieving the impossible: thoroughly owning the Maestro at his peak.
Ya, I could see it happening, if Roger gets the opportunity:

Roger Federer falls to No. 302 Haas in stunning upset in Stuttgart

http://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2017/06/roger-federer-tommy-haas-stuttgart-atp-tennis/66888/
 
#17
No chance.

Super slim chance they'll even play again. Murray would literally have to be drawn with Fed in the 1st or 2nd round. And there are like 4 or 5 tournaments for Murray left to play outside of clay.
 
#18
It just sucks so much that for all the work Murray put into owning the Federer machine in their prime, that he retires with a losing H2H. Just once, I hope to see them meet again, for Andy to get the last laugh in the epic rivalry, he deserves it for achieving the impossible: thoroughly owning the Maestro at his peak.
Can you post a decent post just once before you’re banned?
 
#21
I don't want to be a dick now that he's retiring, but come on. Djokovic is a different class of player than Murray: 25-11 H2H and 7-2 in Slams. Most one sided rivalry in the big 4. There was no way it could've ended another way. Murray didn't have the aggression to be a world beater, Djokovic had the whole package.
Go back to news articles of 2010.. Murray was on the ascend and better player at the right age. It is a shame he didn't get Lendl sooner.

On the career as a whole from 2006-2010, there was not much to separate Djokovic from Murray at that point.
 
#23
I don't want to get conspiratorial, but the odds of that Nadal-Ferrer match at USO were extremely low. I'd still assume luck, but even if it were done intentionally, I wouldn't even be mad. Same if the organizers intentionally put Murray against a former rival for that last match. They probably won't, but even if they do I can't be mad.
If a major tournament is going to rig a draw, it definitely would not be to do a "sentimental solid" for David Ferrer.
That said, Murray vs. Federer in the first round of Wimbledon would sure generate some buzz.
 
#27
Murray owned the maestro in BO3 when the maestro could care very little about it and hyper focussed on majors. Don't reach too much into those.

What is bad for Murray is as 2010 progressed , he was the one in upswing and not Djokovic . If he had developed weapons , he should have been the one with double digit majors, not Djokovic
Federer had to improve in order to turn their rivarly around wich belonged to Murray.
 
#30
You weren't being respectful at all so throw that word out of your window. Don't start things.
This thread should have been nixed. ND hypocrites don't have any better job ? Why not thread be about whether Murray beat Djokovic one final time to get payback for 5 AO runner up plates ?
 
#31
This thread should have been nixed. ND hypocrites don't have any better job ? Why not thread be about whether Murray beat Djokovic one final time to get payback for 5 AO runner up plates ?
Well, I don't wish that, for obvious reasons. I'd be okay with it though.
My point was that Murray always brought his best against Fed during Primerer years and led the H2H for a long time; he deserves one more go at the great man.
 
#32
Go back to news articles of 2010.. Murray was on the ascend and better player at the right age. It is a shame he didn't get Lendl sooner.

On the career as a whole from 2006-2010, there was not much to separate Djokovic from Murray at that point.
There was a Grand Slam title to be fair
 
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