Can Nadal or Djokovic do what Federer has done? Poll

Can either of these guys do what Federer has done?

  • Nadal will

    Votes: 3 5.7%
  • Djokovic will

    Votes: 22 41.5%
  • Both will

    Votes: 9 17.0%
  • Neither of them will

    Votes: 19 35.8%

  • Total voters
    53

TennisManiac

Hall of Fame
Federer won 2 Slams at the age of 35 and 1 at the age of 36. Do you think Nadal or Djokovic can do something like that? In my opinion... I sure don't.
 

Third Serve

G.O.A.T.
I don't think Nadal will do it.

Djokovic could do it but I wouldn't place any bets. I'd like to see how he looks in the next Slam after that US Open final first.
 

Fiero425

Hall of Fame
djokovic did it ahead of time at the sage of 34. That's how I would see it. Fed never did it at 34 and compensated for it at 35 & 36
It's like it's only you and me! No one else seems to think Nole more impressive by getting to records and making them his before Fedal's 35th+ years! Whinging about him winning 2 Majors at 35 when he's gotten 3 this year alone! Really ridiculous commentary when it ocmes to Djokovic trying to undermine his achievements! :-D
 

BeatlesFan

Bionic Poster
Federer won 2 Slams at the age of 35 and 1 at the age of 36. Do you think Nadal or Djokovic can do something like that? In my opinion... I sure don't.
Incoming 400 comments, "Nole will be winning slams at 45!" And said with an apparently straight face.

Anyway, obviously neither will accomplish it since both are fading as we speak.
 

Fiero425

Hall of Fame
Novak won 3 slams this year. He’s in better shape then Federer ever was. 100% he will win more slams over the next few years.
WTF is wrong with people thinking Nole's going to just drop off a cliff next season after trying and failing his CYGS? This isn't mid 2016 or '17 FFS! He's not inside some drama going on behind the scenes! He might be a little injured, but who isn't these days with how fast the game moves? :-D :D:happydevil:
 

DRII

G.O.A.T.
Federer won 2 Slams at the age of 35 and 1 at the age of 36. Do you think Nadal or Djokovic can do something like that? In my opinion... I sure don't.
Something like that? Nadal has already won 3 slams in 2 twilight-swan years, just like Federer has.

As far as just focusing on physical age, which is pretty dumb, we'll see.
 
Tough to say, 2017-early 2018 was even weaker than the current field we have now. Even if they don’t, it doesn’t really matter. They both started racking up big titles at an earlier age, especially RAFA. Dude’s been in the top 10 since mid-2005 o_O
 

Kralingen

Hall of Fame
I'm going to say no. almost no chance of doing that.

Here's why - if Djokovic or Nadal were to win 2 Slams at 35 (and this is being conservative and saying they don't win any at 34 (AO/FO next year) - they would be on 22 and the presumable Slam leader heading into a 2023 season. Whoever does it I think he'll be called the GOAT by sportswriters and media etc. and the ceremony for #21 will be a massive thing.

So assuming someone is on 22, where's the motivation going to come from? Slam leader, likely Masters leader as well, and a body that is only getting older and less explosive.

I don't see Djokovic/Nadal grinding their way to another one at age 36 (which would be '23 Wimby/USO/'24AO for Djokovic, '22 Wimby/USO/'23 AO for Nadal). Both don't strike me as the type to stick around until age 40 like Fed has tried to.

The only way I can see them going hard at age 36/37 is if the other one is still active and either tied or one ahead on Slams.
 

Sunny014

Legend
Nadal will be trying hard to conjured a 4th generational wave at clay.

Will see if it happens or not, outside it he is done, he won't even reach the finals outside clay.

Novak will be winning slams after 35 as well, but he has to do it first.
 

Pheasant

Hall of Fame
I'm done betting against Djoker and Nadal. That's a terrible bet to make. It was also bad to bet against Federer. But now that he's 40....never mind. Never bet against any of these players.

And honestly, it'll be sad when any of those 3 players are done. And it'll be really sad when they are all retired.
 

Djokodal Fan

Hall of Fame
It's like it's only you and me! No one else seems to think Nole more impressive by getting to records and making them his before Fedal's 35th+ years! Whinging about him winning 2 Majors at 35 when he's gotten 3 this year alone! Really ridiculous commentary when it ocmes to Djokovic trying to undermine his achievements! :-D
But then again Federer had to compete with 28 yr old Djokovic which by itself can be a daunting task(who on the hindsight ended up being a great as well). I see where some Fed fans come from and understand their view point

But then Novak had to face players in their prime at 23-25 which is even harder. Since some of them never won a slam they are seen as mugs, but only time will tell how good they are. Either Djokovic is too good or they actually are mugs not to put away an aging super star. This will be an open question in the years to come.
 

malbaker86

Hall of Fame
Novak half assed his way into the USO final and there is no reason to believe a 90% Nadal wouldn’t have been able to as well. If both are fit next year, they’ll do it
 

Fiero425

Hall of Fame
Novak half-assed his way into the USO final and there is no reason to believe a 90% Nadal wouldn’t have been able to as well. If both are fit next year, they’ll do it.
It wouldn't have been the first time! Remember when he had multiple WD's and retirements on his way to 2016 USO final? He was a shell of himself after completing his Nole-Slam by winning FO earlier that season! I felt he was in the same trouble then against Wawrinka as he was against Daniil! Nole needed him upset because he's one player that can go toe to toe with Djokovic! With the pressure of the CYGS, I wasn't feeling good about the completion of that feat! I'm not greedy and give Nole all due credit for this season at 34-35! Regardless if Fedal didn't put up much of a fight, the real competition is the NG'rs and they're coming thru to prove their mettle! Sascha was so close; Med completely the upset of history by winning his 1st major! Bravo by all concerned! :sneaky:
 

Milehigh5280

Professional
If the foot injury is as serious as it sounds then I don't think Nadal can. It's as simple as that for me

I think Novak's situation is way different. He's never had a serious lower body injury, which is usually a sign of the end for older players. He literally won three slams this year and was a match away from the Calender Slam. And he's bounced back from tough losses so many times before
 

D.Nalby12

G.O.A.T.
Djokovic so far has declined the least if you compare their performances at same age. This trend may continue even after age of 35. However Federer almost won slam at age of 38. I will be surprised if Djokovic does it.
 

kevaninho

Hall of Fame
Pretty sure Fed wins none of those slams if Djokovic wasnt AWOL.

Nadal obviously bennefitted from that also in 2017-18 ( although i believe he still wins RG even with a fit Nole ).

The field was pathetic around that time, with only Fedal and Djokovic , along with Murray and occassionally Wawrinka doing anything.

Itll be more difficult for Nadal and Djokovic going forward, as we actually have a few decent guys coming up now.
 

RF-18

Talk Tennis Guru
When it comes to Djokovic I don't see a limit considering how good and fresh he still is on court. He just won 3 slams and reached the final at another. The question is how long can he stay this way. He will put himself into chances to win many more times.

Nadal is a bigger question mark though. He is certainly fading away. On clay he is still the top dog but outside of it I wouldn't favour him against anyone of the diamond age at this point. These guys have reached a new level of maturity on court and level aswell.
 

Pheasant

Hall of Fame
Djoker has been far healthier than Federer(terrible back and shredded knees) and Nadal(bad foot, knee issues, and a whole bunch of other things). Djoker seems like a decent bet to pull this off. And as unlikely as Nadal seems to do this, I will still never bet against him.

What I do wonder is that if/when Nadal comes back, will he suffer a 2015-2016 slump like he did last time.
 

Imperator

Hall of Fame
Federer won 4 Slams past the of 30. Do you think Nadal or Djokovic can do something like that? In my opinion... I sure don't.
 

dr325i

G.O.A.T.
Incoming 400 comments, "Nole will be winning slams at 45!" And said with an apparently straight face.

Anyway, obviously neither will accomplish it since both are fading as we speak.
So, Novak has won 3 slams this year and lost the last one of the year in the final and he is “obviously fading”??

Has anyone won first 3 slams of the season and lost the 4th in the final last 50 years?
 

dr325i

G.O.A.T.
Djokovic so far has declined the least if you compare their performances at same age. This trend may continue even after age of 35. However Federer almost won slam at age of 38. I will be surprised if Djokovic does it.
Djokovic almost won the Grand Slam this year…ah, wait, almost does not count…

On the other hand, he played his 9th final at the USO - most in open era
And beating Zverev in the Semis he surpassed RF 224 top 10 career wins - at 225 now
 
When it comes to Djokovic I don't see a limit considering how good and fresh he still is on court. He just won 3 slams and reached the final at another. The question is how long can he stay this way. He will put himself into chances to win many more times.

Nadal is a bigger question mark though. He is certainly fading away. On clay he is still the top dog but outside of it I wouldn't favour him against anyone of the diamond age at this point. These guys have reached a new level of maturity on court and level aswell.
It’s getting like that for Novak too. I think soon Wimbledon will be Novak’s best slam like the french is for Rafa. I expect the next gen to start taking over hard court slams now.
 
I'm going to say no. almost no chance of doing that.

Here's why - if Djokovic or Nadal were to win 2 Slams at 35 (and this is being conservative and saying they don't win any at 34 (AO/FO next year) - they would be on 22 and the presumable Slam leader heading into a 2023 season. Whoever does it I think he'll be called the GOAT by sportswriters and media etc. and the ceremony for #21 will be a massive thing.

So assuming someone is on 22, where's the motivation going to come from? Slam leader, likely Masters leader as well, and a body that is only getting older and less explosive.

I don't see Djokovic/Nadal grinding their way to another one at age 36 (which would be '23 Wimby/USO/'24AO for Djokovic, '22 Wimby/USO/'23 AO for Nadal). Both don't strike me as the type to stick around until age 40 like Fed has tried to.

The only way I can see them going hard at age 36/37 is if the other one is still active and either tied or one ahead on Slams.
I agree. I also don’t think they will play for as long as Fed. I think they could retire in 2 years to be honest. They already have the records and nothing much left to fight for.
 

D.Nalby12

G.O.A.T.
Djokovic almost won the Grand Slam this year…ah, wait, almost does not count…

On the other hand, he played his 9th final at the USO - most in open era
And beating Zverev in the Semis he surpassed RF 224 top 10 career wins - at 225 now
Let's see if Djokovic comes anything close to winning Slam at age 38. Let alone having MPs in slam final against 20 time slam winner (after beating another 20 time Slam winner in semis). I don't think he will. Djokovic keeps winning because his younger competition is quite weak. If he had another younger 20 time winner on his back - he would struggle to win Slams.
 

tex123

Professional
I don't think people realise how much damage Zv and Med have done to Novak. Tennis is a mental game. He was invincible before the Olympics. That aura is gone. When he steps on the court again, everyone has a chance to take him out. If he gets to the semis or the finals, there will be Zv or Med waiting. That thought alone is enough to make himself doubt a little bit.

US open was huge for Nextgen. They have checked him into Hotel Retirement. The song goes like this for Hotel Retirement...

Last thing I remember, I was
Running for the door
I had to find the passage back
To the place I was before
"Relax, " said the night man,
"We are programmed to receive.
You can check-out any time you like,
But you can never leave!
 

Amen786

Semi-Pro
Novak just did much much worse. ;)
If you're referring to the US open final, then I strongly disagree.
Djokovic was never ahead in terms of level of play, Medvedev was outplaying him in every tennis department for the most part of the match and won.
Djokovic has yet to lose a big match where he was tennis-wise a better player by a huge margin compared to his opponent. He's way too clutch for that to happen.
With Federer, especially in historical matches, its often reverse the case, where he outplays his opponent by a big margin, gets to winning positions and fails.
 

dr325i

G.O.A.T.
Let's see if Djokovic comes anything close to winning Slam at age 38. Let alone having MPs in slam final against 20 time slam winner (after beating another 20 time Slam winner in semis). I don't think he will. Djokovic keeps winning because his younger competition is quite weak. If he had another younger 20 time winner on his back - he would struggle to win Slams.
Zverev today is not weaker than Nadal at 2019 W… young comp is far from weak now.
But that will always be the excuse for the fans, just like I’d argue the good old Agassi (at 35), Baggy, Philly, Gonzo, punch bag Roddick and others guys (half of Rogers 20 slams…)
 

D.Nalby12

G.O.A.T.
Zverev today is not weaker than Nadal at 2019 W… young comp is far from weak now.
But that will always be the excuse for the fans, just like I’d argue the good old Agassi (at 35), Baggy, Philly, Gonzo, punch bag Roddick and others guys (half of Rogers 20 slams…)
V
Zverev is useless in Slams - yet to beat Top 10 player there. He is 24 with no Top 10 Slam level victories.
 

DjokoLand

Hall of Fame
Aw the usual Djokovic is done after a USO F loss or bad end too the season for him to pop into Australia and walk the title. Seen this movie before
 

T007

Professional
djokovic did it ahead of time at the sage of 34. That's how I would see it. Fed never did it at 34 and compensated for it at 35 & 36
DJoker did it in a weaker field compared to Fed. Fed had to beat peak 2017 Nadal to clinch his 18th slam. Nadal was not at his best and was injured in FO.
 

T007

Professional
If you're referring to the US open final, then I strongly disagree.
Djokovic was never ahead in terms of level of play, Medvedev was outplaying him in every tennis department for the most part of the match and won.
Djokovic has yet to lose a big match where he was tennis-wise a better player by a huge margin compared to his opponent. He's way too clutch for that to happen.
With Federer, especially in historical matches, its often reverse the case, where he outplays his opponent by a big margin, gets to winning positions and fails.
Great analysis
 
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