Can Nalbandian make it to Shanghai? If Not, They Should Allow him

I read that Nalbandian is not going to make it to Shanghai. I think it would be fair to allow him in if he wins the Paris tourney. It's good for tennis, and it may bring in more $ for the Shanghai event.

Perhaps, a sponsor can create another tournament just before Shanghai to give Nalby another oppty?

Should Shanghai give him some sort of Masters Wild Card? I think this may be a good idea.

But then again, there is the strict rule with the points. If ya' don't have the pts, then ya' don't get in.

Still, I think the officials and the sponsors should think of a fair way to allow Nalby into Shanghai if Nalby wins Paris.
 

Alejandro D

Semi-Pro
To qualify to Shangai, David should win the tournament, end in the ninth place (that's the best he can do) and one of the first 8 should have to quit the Masters Cup (i.e. Roddick due to his injure).
 

superman1

Legend
He probably deserves it, but it doesn't work that way. You can't ignore his abysmal results from the rest of the year. It's like flunking all of your midterms and then acing your final. You've proven that you know the material and belong at the top of the pack, but that doesn't mean you're getting the A.
 
It's a $$$ Issue

But it's not that Shanghai is a magical tournament; it just offers more $; that's why all players want to go there, not to check out the Yangtze River.

If $ is the issue, then Nalby should be in IF he wins the Paris Tourney.

I would be pretty sure, that TV network ratings would increase a lot more if Nalby wins Paris and Nalby gets admitted to Shanghai.
 

simi

Hall of Fame
Playing fantastic tennis for only one month does not entitle one to enter the year-end championship. You need consistent results throughout the full year. As much as I'm a fan of the guy, he had too long of a dry spell during most of the year. He may well go...as an alternate.
 

edmondsm

Legend
He probably deserves it, but it doesn't work that way. You can't ignore his abysmal results from the rest of the year. It's like flunking all of your midterms and then acing your final. You've proven that you know the material and belong at the top of the pack, but that doesn't mean you're getting the A.

Couldn't have said it better.

But it's not that Shanghai is a magical tournament; it just offers more $; that's why all players want to go there, not to check out the Yangtze River.

If $ is the issue, then Nalby should be in IF he wins the Paris Tourney.

I would be pretty sure, that TV network ratings would increase a lot more if Nalby wins Paris and Nalby gets admitted to Shanghai.

Dude, is this really how you think about tennis? Kind of scary. I'm the biggest Nalbandian fan there is, but for God's sake the guy took like 2 months off to attend rally car races. Getting hot for two weeks doesn't mean you get to bump some guy who has been grinding all year out of the MC.
 

Ripper

Hall of Fame
Why does he deserve to be there? Because he beat Federer 2 times in a row? Then Cañas deserves it, too. Look, those who have earned the points deserve to be there.
 
No, not that

no, it's not that he deserves it; it's about business, marketing, $.

PUrely from a business, return on investment standpoint.

If so, Nalby should be there.
 

prince

Semi-Pro
I read that Nalbandian is not going to make it to Shanghai. I think it would be fair to allow him in if he wins the Paris tourney. It's good for tennis, and it may bring in more $ for the Shanghai event.

Perhaps, a sponsor can create another tournament just before Shanghai to give Nalby another oppty?

Should Shanghai give him some sort of Masters Wild Card? I think this may be a good idea.

But then again, there is the strict rule with the points. If ya' don't have the pts, then ya' don't get in.

Still, I think the officials and the sponsors should think of a fair way to allow Nalby into Shanghai if Nalby wins Paris.

maybe you need to make calls and write letters to people in the tennisworld of your brilliant idea . better start now as shanghai is about to start .
 

Feña14

G.O.A.T.
If your talking about people who deserve it then it's Murray.

He got to the semi's or further in 5 of his first 6 tournaments, an amazing 5 setter with Nadal at the Australian, 2 Masters Series semi's back-to-back, defending San Jose and then got injured for 4 months missing the French and Wimbledon in the process.

He then came back and got to the final in France, gave Nadal a hell of a match in Madrid (which Nalbandian capitalised on), won St Petersburg, and is doing well in Paris at the moment.

At the start of the season he was right up there with Djokovic and look what Djokovic went on to achieve while Murray was sitting on the sidelines. I am convinced Murray would be a top 5 player by now if he hadn't of got the injury when he did.

Hopefully he'll make it.
 

Tennis_Bum

Professional
He probably deserves it, but it doesn't work that way. You can't ignore his abysmal results from the rest of the year. It's like flunking all of your midterms and then acing your final. You've proven that you know the material and belong at the top of the pack, but that doesn't mean you're getting the A.

True, can't goof off the whole semester the just show up for final and hope to get an A. But he has been playing very well for last 2 masters except for 1 hiccup at Swiss Indoors
 
Murray - Yes

If your talking about people who deserve it then it's Murray.

He got to the semi's or further in 5 of his first 6 tournaments, an amazing 5 setter with Nadal at the Australian, 2 Masters Series semi's back-to-back, defending San Jose and then got injured for 4 months missing the French and Wimbledon in the process.

He then came back and got to the final in France, gave Nadal a hell of a match in Madrid (which Nalbandian capitalised on), won St Petersburg, and is doing well in Paris at the moment.

At the start of the season he was right up there with Djokovic and look what Djokovic went on to achieve while Murray was sitting on the sidelines. I am convinced Murray would be a top 5 player by now if he hadn't of got the injury when he did.

Hopefully he'll make it.

It's not a matter of hopefully; Murray will probably make it. again check out the predictions on the blog: tennisanalyst.blogspot.com.

i think that blog may be wrong if nalby does not somehow make it.

but Murray is on a streak--probably due to the help of Gilbert.
 
Nalbandian didn't play nearly enough tourneys...this is what, his 14th? while everyone else in the top 8 (sub the fed) has played 17(nadal) -24. Shanghai is a bonus for the top 8 in the world who have worked hard all year to get where they are and he just hasn't. Now it's down to 3 fighting for that last spot at shanghai; SCOTLANDS andy murray!, richard gasquet, and baghdatis. Great game on tv right now between murray and gasquet that will leave just two people fighting for that last spot...exciting stuff!
 

Foraserve

New User
I'm amazed at how good Nalbandian has gotten. He must have been putting in some 12 hour practice days. His play since returning to the tour has been unbelievable and I mean unbelievable.
 

rosenstar

Professional
so if you do let Nalbandian play, what are you going to tell the 8th place who qualified but doesn't get to play. sorry. life doesn't work that way.
 

simi

Hall of Fame
Tennis Dude Troll said:
...again check out the predictions on the blog: tennisanalyst.blogjunk.con...

Are you guys getting tired of this joker pushing his blog all the time? The harder he pushes...the less likely I'll go read it. Sort of like the guy that brags the most does it the least.
 

Fee

Legend
Why does he deserve to be there? Because he beat Federer 2 times in a row? Then Cañas deserves it, too. Look, those who have earned the points deserve to be there.

Exactly. Funny how the ATP set that up, you earn the most points throughout THE ENTIRE YEAR and you get to go to the most elite event of the season. Those who "deserve" to go are the ones who have earned the points.

Nalbandian might make it in as an alternate if both Roddick and Davydenko pull out and he wins Paris. Some players have apparently alluded to the fact that they will not go as alternates, so they could reach all the way down to #11 or #12 to fill the spots this year.

Are you guys getting tired of this joker pushing his blog all the time? The harder he pushes...the less likely I'll go read it. Sort of like the guy that brags the most does it the least.

Yes. I wouldn't mind if he would just admit that it is his blog (as others here do) but this disingenuous posting as if he just stumbled across it reeks of a complete lack of integrity to me. His posts here do not demonstrate a superior knowledge of tennis that would make his blog worth reading to me (like in this thread, not knowing that Murray was out if he lost to Gasquet today). Anyone can write a blog, more power to you for putting in the effort, but there are many people on this forum whose opinions and observations I would rather read.
 

drakulie

Talk Tennis Guru
Are you guys getting tired of this joker pushing his blog all the time? The harder he pushes...the less likely I'll go read it. Sort of like the guy that brags the most does it the least.

This clown has a blog?
 

flyboy1

New User
Well hells bells Marge.....if it's all about "business" and "return on investment", then why not have Pete Sampras play in Shanghai, or why not Johnny Mac, or hey, Rod Laver would be a draw too. Shoot, maybe Don Budge would be kind enough to raise himself from the dead for the ATP so they can get better ratings. Yeah.....that's the ticket.

Where do we get such stupid ideas anyhow???
 

vkartikv

Hall of Fame
Ya, it would be good to allow Pete and Goran to compete also to bring in the money, wouldn't it? It's all about who has played well consistently throughout the year to make the points, not who played well for a month.
 

thalivest

Banned
I heard them say during his match today he had no chance to make it, even if he won the event. That is too bad since he is a very good indoor player.
 

LeftyServe

Semi-Pro
But wait a minute. There is a rule that a player can qualify for the TMC by winning and playing just one tournament: a Grand Slam. That's still the rule, isn't it? In 2004, Gaudio was one place behind Nalbandian (of all people) in the race that year, but qualified ahead of him because he won the French. In 2005, Safin qualified by winning the Australian, even though he was something like 12th in the race (he didn't even play the TMC that year). So while it is somewhat a test of year long excellent play, there are exceptions. Interesting that if Nalby were to win Paris this week, his two masters' titles would be worth as many ranking points as a grand slam, and based on the quality of the opponents he would have had to play and beat, it would be a roughly equivalent achievement (in effort, not prestige).
 
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