Can Tsitsipass win on Sunday?

Tsitsi wins?

  • Yes

    Votes: 69 48.9%
  • No chance

    Votes: 37 26.2%
  • 50/50

    Votes: 35 24.8%

  • Total voters
    141

Beckerserve

Legend
Stop with the endless mendacity and BS with the weather. Stop drinking and posting after 2 bottles of Jack Daniels.
Lets see what happens shall we. Djokovic is poor in heat and sun. Got lucky to face a has been Nadal. Should have been Sinner like i said all along.
If tsitsipas wins i guess we wont hear from you again?
 

Beckerserve

Legend
Yes, if Djokovic is mentally spent or overconfident after this crazy SF and Tsitsipas plays lights out tennis. But it's more likely that Djokovic will be careful and Tsitsipas will feel the pressure of his first slam final.
Djokovic loses it is a disaster for him. His whole career is on Sunday. Lose he will be third wheel forever.
 

Toronto11

New User
Yes, if Djokovic is mentally spent or overconfident after this crazy SF and Tsitsipas plays lights out tennis. But it's more likely that Djokovic will be careful and Tsitsipas will feel the pressure of his first slam final.
I see this as well. Novak will play everything down the middle and wait for Tsitsipas to make a mistake.
 

dapchai

Legend
Tsits looked satisfied that he made it to his very first slam final and will be eaten alive by Djokovic. And he couldn't sustain his high level even if he's really determined to win. No surprise.
 

MeatTornado

Talk Tennis Guru
But Stan already was a slam winner and proved that he could even hang in with Djokovic at the AO. What has Tsits done to earn something comparable to Stan's credential?
It's not about the situations being on par with each other. It's about how sometimes the impossible happens.

Of course Stan had more going for him than Tsitsipas does now, but that's not the point.
 

dapchai

Legend
It's not about the situations being on par with each other. It's about how sometimes the impossible happens.

Of course Stan had more going for him than Tsitsipas does now, but that's not the point.
Get it. But still, I don't think there will be any surprise in the final. Tsits basically has no game to trouble Djokovic. Even his physical and mental ability is in doubt after the first SF.
 

MeatTornado

Talk Tennis Guru
Not the same thing at all. Stan pushed him to the limit at the USO and took him out in Australia. Sissy only has the Rome chokejob. He only won MC thanks to Rublev.
It's just an example about how sometimes the unexpected happens. The obvious parallel here being Novak beating Nadal at RG and having what should be considered an easier opponent in the final but somehow losing.
 

MeatTornado

Talk Tennis Guru
Get it. But still, I don't think there will be any surprise in the final. Tsits basically has no game to trouble Djokovic. Even his physical and mental ability is in doubt after the first SF.
Neither do I (if you look at the match thread I voted Novak in 3). That's my prediction, but I don't think we should write off the match before it even happens.
 

dapchai

Legend
It's just an example about how sometimes the unexpected happens. The obvious parallel here being Novak beating Nadal at RG and having what should be considered an easier opponent in the final but somehow losing.
I had always believed that not Nadal but Djokovic was the favorite last night. So I wasn't really surprised with Djokovic winning though.
 

-snake-

Hall of Fame
It's just an example about how sometimes the unexpected happens. The obvious parallel here being Novak beating Nadal at RG and having what should be considered an easier opponent in the final but somehow losing.


I get it but there's nothing on Sissy's resume similar to Stan's runs. I think even a well playing Tim would beat this Oldovic at RG.
 

dapchai

Legend
Neither do I (if you look at the match thread I voted Novak in 3). That's my prediction, but I don't think we should write off the match before it even happens.
I don't count on any nextgen guy at slams until the Big 3 retire. The final is basically NID.
 

initialize

Hall of Fame
Yes he does have a chance. Remember Karatsev crushed Nole just a few weeks ago on Nole’s home turf, and Tsitsipas had a relatively easy win over Karatsev in Madrid just a couple weeks before that.


Therefore Tsitsipas >> Nole
 

Start da Game

Hall of Fame
this is the final that i actually wanted in australia........i will just say what i said before the aus open final.........tsitsipas has the flair that can catch novak off guard........we know how novak has a tendency to struggle against single handers........so if stef can channel the inner stanimal inside him, we will have an epic........i also think novak may have already left everything on the court in the semis and could end up dry if the match extends to a fifth........having said all that ultron is still the favourite.........tsitsipas at least has some hope because he is not playing nadal........
 

Nadal_King

Hall of Fame
Conditions is a big. Factor it will hot and sunny with livelier conditions and djokovic strokes are just too soow in these conditions, I think Tsitsipas has a chance if he stays throughout mentally
 

ForehandCross

G.O.A.T.
Before seeing semis yesterday, I would have said it could even be 50-50.

But after it no. Not because it went five sets or because he cried.

But because he was mentally frail and inconsistent.The focus requires to win a slam final let alone beat a big 3 is of another dimension to what he showed.

He will have to be as focused as QFs to stand a chance.
 

dapchai

Legend
Before seeing semis yesterday, I would have said it could even be 50-50.

But after it no. Not because it went five sets or because he cried.

But because he was mentally frail and inconsistent.The focus requires to win a slam final let alone beat a big 3 is of another dimension to what he showed.

He will have to be as focused as QFs to stand a chance.
I think he already gave everything he had in the QF (mainly because of his beef with Meddy). Even Djokovic lost his first slam final so I think there would be no surprise if Tsits lost tomorrow. Even if he is as focus as he was in QF he still can't do anything, as his game is a couple of classes below Djokovic's.
 

Icsa

Semi-Pro
Too many Fed fans here, 50% voted that Tsitsi wins. :)
I mean, sure he has some small chance to win, but if you watched the 2 semis, it is pretty clear who can land (another) GS win.
 

Druss

Hall of Fame
I will be cheering Tsitsipas on like never before. Here’s hoping for the Greek’s maiden slam win a la Wawa2015. Bel1eve.
 

jga111

Hall of Fame
If you look at the ATP head to head Tsitsipas has the luxury of knowing he has won many games against Djoko.

Can he win? Yes.

How? He needs to play at the level Museti did but for more than two sets.

We haven’t seen the best of Tsitispas and he will be playing under no pressure - let’s see! :)
 

EllieK

Hall of Fame
I’m a fan of the Greek but what’s running through my head is how Medvedev was hyped up to win the AO and fell apart in the final. Not even competitive. I’m really hoping Stefanos can put up a good fight at least and hoping against hope that he can win this thing. It’s up to Stefanos to fly the flag for the next generation. Right here and right now his chance is here. Can he take it? I sure hope so.
 

Jai

Professional
If you look at the ATP head to head Tsitsipas has the luxury of knowing he has won many games against Djoko.

Can he win? Yes.

How? He needs to play at the level Museti did but for more than two sets.

We haven’t seen the best of Tsitispas and he will be playing under no pressure - let’s see! :)
I'm not saying he has no chance......but claiming he will be playing under no pressure is ludicrous. He is being hyped by most media outlets as the form and face of the next gen. Living up to that is a pressure cooker situation.

Make no mistake, both will be under pressure. Tsits has some chance but I feel it's going Novak's way in 4. He played better in his semi than Tsits did, and he will rise to the occasion still more in the Finals, he's done this before.
 

jga111

Hall of Fame
I'm not saying he has no chance......but claiming he will be playing under no pressure is ludicrous. He is being hyped by most media outlets as the form and face of the next gen. Living up to that is a pressure cooker situation.

Make no mistake, both will be under pressure. Tsits has some chance but I feel it's going Novak's way in 4. He played better in his semi than Tsits did, and he will rise to the occasion still more in the Finals, he's done this before.

I don’t agree - purely because he has already shed his tears of creating history, being the first ever Greek to reach the French Open final.

Then he is up against “arguably” the GOAT - everyone is expecting Djoko to win. The only pressure he will feel tomorrow will be from the waters pipes when he is having his shower
 
I’m a fan of the Greek but what’s running through my head is how Medvedev was hyped up to win the AO and fell apart in the final. Not even competitive. I’m really hoping Stefanos can put up a good fight at least and hoping against hope that he can win this thing. It’s up to Stefanos to fly the flag for the next generation. Right here and right now his chance is here. Can he take it? I sure hope so.
I think Med thought he was the favourite in that match, considering he had beaten novak recently , however novak did his homework and worked out a plan to frustrate med, towards the end med was totally lacking in ideas and confidence, IMO Med lost patience all to quickly , the thing Novak is a player than can execute a plan, like he did with Rafa last night , it really depends how much stef can think on his feet and adapt his game or alternatively play his game to such I high level that Novak’s plan does not work ,
It’s going to be tough ..let’s see..
 

Jai

Professional
I don’t agree - purely because he has already shed his tears of creating history, being the first ever Greek to reach the French Open final.

Then he is up against “arguably” the GOAT - everyone is expecting Djoko to win. The only pressure he will feel tomorrow will be from the waters pipes when he is having his shower
So being the first Greek to reach the RG final has accomplished what Tsits wants from this tournament? Is that what you're saying, that he did what he expected of himself so no pressure? :) In the unlikely event that this analysis of Tsits' expectations of himself are correct, well that's even worse. Coz if he feels he's accomplished what he needed to do by reaching the final, then there's not going to be much fight left.

IMO, he surely wants to go all the way, which means there WILL be pressure. Immense pressure. I feel Novak will handle the big stage much better than Tsits will. Let's see how it goes tomorrow.
 

Tennisfan339

Professional
These "can he" questions are always pointless, imo. Of course he can.
But will he, it's another question. If my life was at stake in this match, I would bet Djokovic in 3 or 4. But Tsitsipas has a chance of course. He has already beaten Djokovic twice, and the last 2 matchs on clay were epic battles. He certainly can, but I doubt he will. Depends a lot on Djokovic's level, too.
 
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jga111

Hall of Fame
So being the first Greek to reach the RG final has accomplished what Tsits wants from this tournament? Is that what you're saying, that he did what he expected of himself so no pressure? :) In the unlikely event that this analysis of Tsits' expectations of himself are correct, well that's even worse. Coz if he feels he's accomplished what he needed to do by reaching the final, then there's not going to be much fight left.

IMO, he surely wants to go all the way, which means there WILL be pressure. Immense pressure. I feel Novak will handle the big stage much better than Tsits will. Let's see how it goes tomorrow.

You are confusing desire, confidence and belief with expectation.When the expectation is not there, the pressure isn’t. Watch, he will be loose
 

Patogen

Rookie
I have my doubts. This one will be decided by stamina.

Last year, Stefanos was gassed by the fifth. But he got almost scary good this spring, and he seems to have matured. He could have beaten Nole in Rome. If he keeps his head straight and remains focused AND he plays the crazy angles he's capable of playing, he will bring home the bacon. Novak will be hard to push, but at 34, he will be able to run down only so many balls. Stefanos is no Rafa. He's solid from both the FH and BH side, he's got the serve. If he can dictate and make Novak run east-west long enough to expose the fact Novak gets vulnerable when he grows tired, he'll get him this year.
 

Krish0608

G.O.A.T.
Not the same thing at all. Stan pushed him to the limit at the USO and took him out in Australia. Sissy only has the Rome chokejob and he only won MC thanks to Rublev.
Stan had heartbreaking losses to Djokovic at AO and USO 13. Tsitsipas has had his share of close losses as well. Against Stan @RG19, against Novak in last year's semi, against Novak again at Rome this year. And he's learning and becoming better with every loss. Stefanos is no Stan, but nobody gave Stan a chance at AO 14 final as well. I'm not giving him much of a chance tomorrow, but he has a puncher's chance and if he's made of great stuff like Stan was, that's all he'll need to make it count.
 

EllieK

Hall of Fame
I have my doubts. This one will be decided by stamina.

Last year, Stefanos was gassed by the fifth. But he got almost scary good this spring, and he seems to have matured. He could have beaten Nole in Rome. If he keeps his head straight and remains focused AND he plays the crazy angles he's capable of playing, he will bring home the bacon. Novak will be hard to push, but at 34, he will be able to run down only so many balls. Stefanos is no Rafa. He's solid from both the FH and BH side, he's got the serve. If he can dictate and make Novak run east-west long enough to expose the fact Novak gets vulnerable when he grows tired, he'll get him this year.

his problem in the 5th last year was a foot injury. He had injections in the beginning of the tournament. If you watched the match, you could see him pull up. From that point on, it was over. He had severe edema in his foot.
 

Djokinho

Rookie
I have my doubts. This one will be decided by stamina.

Last year, Stefanos was gassed by the fifth. But he got almost scary good this spring, and he seems to have matured. He could have beaten Nole in Rome. If he keeps his head straight and remains focused AND he plays the crazy angles he's capable of playing, he will bring home the bacon. Novak will be hard to push, but at 34, he will be able to run down only so many balls. Stefanos is no Rafa. He's solid from both the FH and BH side, he's got the serve. If he can dictate and make Novak run east-west long enough to expose the fact Novak gets vulnerable when he grows tired, he'll get him this year.

his problem in the 5th last year was a foot injury. He had injections in the beginning of the tournament. If you watched the match, you could see him pull up. From that point on, it was over. He had severe edema in his foot.
Very nice conversation between you. But let's get to reality: Tsitsipas was avoiding running for the balls against Zverev to save energy.

Is this a sign of someone who is going to win a battle of resistance?

Djokovic, on the other hand, was running all over the place and by the end of the game looked relaxed.

The more physical the game, the greater the chances of... DJOKOVIC.
 

skip1969

G.O.A.T.
I will be rooting (if I can stay awake for 3.5 hours of grinding) for the new grinder to beat the old grinder . . . just for a change of pace.
 

Feather

Legend
Stan had heartbreaking losses to Djokovic at AO and USO 13. Tsitsipas has had his share of close losses as well. Against Stan @RG19, against Novak in last year's semi, against Novak again at Rome this year. And he's learning and becoming better with every loss. Stefanos is no Stan, but nobody gave Stan a chance at AO 14 final as well. I'm not giving him much of a chance tomorrow, but he has a puncher's chance and if he's made of great stuff like Stan was, that's all he'll need to make it count.

Stefanos can certainly trouble Novak. But can he cross the line? We will see. I am going for the upset. Stefanos in four sets
 
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