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OP asked: "In other words what is this girl's male NTRP level?!"
Did you try to answer my questions? If you did, I give the answers a high F.
OP asked: "In other words what is this girl's male NTRP level?!"
How dare you bring facts and logic into an argument that involves women!
J
On myutr she played matches against some females with 11utr and got creamed against all of them easily, so i would guess she is around 9-10utr female, which is quite good but a 9-10utr male should win like 80% of the time.
there is not a gender distinction in utr
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there is not a gender distinction in utr
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i hear what you're saying...Females always (99%) play females and males play males, so there is.
In reality a woman utr is 1 level lower than on paper at least thats what tends to happen in matches.
A 9utr male is similar to 10utr female in general.
Thats also what was figured out in two similar threads about utr on this forum if u check.
You can also check that d1 men have the same utr as wta females, when in reality tje best d1 men absolutely demolish the best wta females.
You have a problem.Did you try to answer my questions? If you did, I give the answers a high F.
If Vince is responsible for changing her serve motion, I think it looks improved & more natural compared to the the earlier video posted of her serving. It already looked pretty good.She got some weird serve instruction tips in this video at around 14:56
Is the coach trying to teach her to pancake a flat serve? The swing path he demonstrates does not look like a natural throwing motion and may lead to shoulder problems.
What he demonstrated as a "bad" follow-thru on her serve seems like an okay relaxed finish?
Also, if she has shoulder pain, his advice seems like it may not help.
If Vince is responsible for changing her serve motion, I think it looks improved & more natural compared to the the earlier video posted of her serving. It already looked pretty good.
Great to see Spadea still involved in tennis. A very long time ago, I remember growing up seeing clips of him playing on tv being touted as one of the next promising junior players.
I think we tend to overestimate how great we look on video playing tennis until we see it for ourselves - that’s the reality check.
I’ve also seen some atp matches in person that when rewatched on tv didn’t quite seem to convey how good the players really are - because we’re comparing their game to the top players that we usually watch who are even better & look so much more amazing on tv.
I agree with the others that this girl would beat down a very large number of the guys on the tw forums including myself. Her abilities, fitness, & game look solid.
This thread is a very entertaining read.
I saw Peter Gojowczy live and thought he belonged in a 5.0 league.
in case you wanted to take a lesson: https://www.playyourcourt.com/tennis-pros/los-angeles-ca/31538/If Vince is responsible for changing her serve motion, I think it looks improved & more natural compared to the the earlier video posted of her serving. It already looked pretty good.
Great to see Spadea still involved in tennis. A very long time ago, I remember growing up seeing clips of him playing on tv being touted as one of the next promising junior players.
I think we tend to overestimate how great we look on video playing tennis until we see it for ourselves - that’s the reality check.
I’ve also seen some atp matches in person that when rewatched on tv didn’t quite seem to convey how good the players really are - because we’re comparing their game to the top players that we usually watch who are even better & look so much more amazing on tv.
I agree with the others that this girl would beat down a very large number of the guys on the tw forums including myself. Her abilities, fitness, & game look solid.
This thread is a very entertaining read.
wish I lived in LA - would be cool to get a lesson from himin case you wanted to take a lesson: https://www.playyourcourt.com/tennis-pros/los-angeles-ca/31538/
loved spadea's book.... hilarious.
struck me as the overachieving "academy kid" that achieved through hard work... but didn't have quite the talent of an agassi or sampras (like querry or sock today)
Is this something along the lines of looks not being important & that it’s the results that matter?I saw Peter Gojowczy live and thought he belonged in a 5.0 league.
J
You have a problem.
Is this something along the lines of looks not being important & that it’s the results that matter?
His strokes do look out of place in today’s game.
in case you wanted to take a lesson: https://www.playyourcourt.com/tennis-pros/los-angeles-ca/31538/
loved spadea's book.... hilarious.
struck me as the overachieving "academy kid" that achieved through hard work... but didn't have quite the talent of an agassi or sampras (like querry or sock today)
he probably just does it for fun.Imagine training your whole life to be a tennis player, make the top 20, beat Sampras and Agassi, and end up hustling for lessons on high school courts?
J
He was recently hired as a consultant/coach and also tennis double in the Battle of the Sexes movie. Pretty sure he got paid decently for it.Imagine training your whole life to be a tennis player, make the top 20, beat Sampras and Agassi, and end up hustling for lessons on high school courts?
J
He was recently hired as a consultant/coach and also tennis double in the Battle of the Sexes movie. Pretty sure he got paid decently for it.
I could probably find out, but who would turn down a decent amount of money doing something they like?He might have done it for free just for something to do. Who would even know who he was?
Is there any way to find out?
J
I could probably find out, but who would turn down a decent amount of money doing something they like?
Plus it probably involved a long period of time to to coach the actors for the scenes with them playing tennis or handling a tennis coach. Shooting the stunt double scenes also takes some time.
For sure the production had a budget for this bc getting the actors to look as believable as possible on the closeups is important.
Apparently Hollywood knew who he was.He might have done it for free just for something to do. Who would even know who he was?
Is there any way to find out?
J
Considering she is the daughter of one of the richest guys in Switzerland, the amount she paid him may surprise most of us here, who knows.Imagine training your whole life to be a tennis player, make the top 20, beat Sampras and Agassi, and end up hustling for lessons on high school courts?
J
She got some weird serve instruction tips in this video at around 14:56
Is the coach trying to teach her to pancake a flat serve? The swing path he demonstrates does not look like a natural throwing motion and may lead to shoulder problems.
What he demonstrated as a "bad" follow-thru on her serve seems like an okay relaxed finish?
Also, if she has shoulder pain, his advice seems like it may not help.
The coach is doing a good job of working on the things I pointed out about the original video. He's making her work hard on being more committed and aggressive on her footwork instead of floating through it (which was the reason for my inquiry about injury). Also, he's getting her into more aggressive strokes from a solid base instead of slapping and not being committed to her shots.
As far as the above comment on the serve, he is super-emphasizing her hitting through the serve and hitting it flat in order to get her to hit completely through the ball.
As far as her serve motion and perhaps shoulder issues, It looks good overall and I don't see anything wrong with what the coach is having her do. I would change her elbow position at the bottom of the motion. It is somewhat locked down, needing a slight sideways motion as well as forward throwing to get it moving and it is likely putting stress on her arm/shoulder to force it through without completely unlocking it.
I'd perhaps have her go through her serve motion with a weighted rope to get her elbow more free in the motion.
You’re a regular Walter Mitty, aren’t you?P.S. I do slightly regret not playing in the senior championships in Miami last year.
Just to see the look on people faces when they see someone my age hitting and
moving as well as I do ..... it would have been priceless.
Mac Borg still had recent former pro players do the tennis doubling work and I'm pretty sure that they didn't do it for free. The film was relatively super low budget, but still had a budget reportedly around 7.5 million dollars.I honestly have no idea, just heard the Mac Borg movie was super low budget.
J
You’re a regular Walter Mitty, aren’t you?
That makes sense.The coach is doing a good job of working on the things I pointed out about the original video. He's making her work hard on being more committed and aggressive on her footwork instead of floating through it (which was the reason for my inquiry about injury). Also, he's getting her into more aggressive strokes from a solid base instead of slapping and not being committed to her shots.
As far as the above comment on the serve, he is super-emphasizing her hitting through the serve and hitting it flat in order to get her to hit completely through the ball.
As far as her serve motion and perhaps shoulder issues, It looks good overall and I don't see anything wrong with what the coach is having her do. I would change her elbow position at the bottom of the motion. It is somewhat locked down, needing a slight sideways motion as well as forward throwing to get it moving and it is likely putting stress on her arm/shoulder to force it through without completely unlocking it.
I'd perhaps have her go through her serve motion with a weighted rope to get her elbow more free in the motion.
Video says much less than actual results.Talk is cheap, video says more.![]()
Mitty is a meek, mild man with a vivid fantasy lifeWho's Walter Mitty?
what does your video say about you?Talk is cheap, video says more.![]()
Whenever I see a news headline that contains the words 'Craigslist' or "Florida man", I don't have to even click to read the article. I know it will be about love and peace.
Video says much less than actual results.
what does your video say about you?
Mitty is a meek, mild man with a vivid fantasy life
Hey, if watching someone hit doesn't give you a clue about their ability to play the game ....
.. then it's you who are lacking.
The resemblance is that you have an image of yourself at odds with reality. You talk of how good you are but never actually play when the opportunity/challenge is there. Talking about the look on people’s faces when “someone your age” triumphantly storms the senior championships—they’re ALL your age, and much better than you. You want the credit but aren’t willing to do the work. The louder you proclaim your greatness, the less you’re believed. Your the guy on the subway no one wants to sit near, mumbling weird things.So what's the resemblance?
A picture is worth a thousand words ...
... and video is many of those pictures ...
... so it says it all, for those that can see.
I really want to see a match between you and Greg diamond. He would utterly destroy you with his 2hfh.So what's the resemblance?
Or a match of you (lobster hat crab walk guy) against Tlm the moonballer. He would crush you as well. You would just give up tennis basically after this thrashing.So what's the resemblance?
Or a match of you (lobster hat crab walk guy) against Tlm the moonballer. He would crush you as well. You would just give up tennis basically after this thrashing.
If you play Tlm and greg Diamond??? you might just jump off a bridge and end your tennis life misery.
I really want to see a match between you and Greg diamond. He would utterly destroy you with his 2hfh.
But Mr. Diamond destroys everyone. No one can withstand the 2HFH and the lack of split step [even though he actually is split stepping, denials notwithstanding].
You obviously have no clue that someone can look and hit much better and more consistently when rallying, than in actual match play, in a match its a completely different level.
Or a match of you (lobster hat crab walk guy) against Tlm the moonballer. He would crush you as well. You would just give up tennis basically after this thrashing.
If you play Tlm and greg Diamond??? you might just jump off a bridge and end your tennis life misery.